Prime Hiruzen Sarutobi Abilities!!! (Must Read)
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It should practically be obvious that an old person would become slower than they were in their 40's , there is a reason you dont see 70 year olds running in the olympics....arguing that is entirely impossible..
He already stated his strength decreased, meaning to him enma was heavier than usual...meaning more work to handle him, meaning enma was weighing down his speed , like weights weigh down part 1 lee's speed
and ps - constantly running around with a heavy ass diamond pole on the battlefield in his prime would only train his speed , once he drops enma , the thing weighing down his speed would be gone.
He already stated his strength decreased, meaning to him enma was heavier than usual...meaning more work to handle him, meaning enma was weighing down his speed , like weights weigh down part 1 lee's speed
and ps - constantly running around with a heavy ass diamond pole on the battlefield in his prime would only train his speed , once he drops enma , the thing weighing down his speed would be gone.
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TrollingSage
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Ok so if we're to take what Orochimaru said literally, Hiruzen can use every jutsu in Konoha including all the kkg like sharingan, byakugan etc.
The Western Wheel
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Thats true.
those are bloodline limits. They would be imposiible.
Secret clan techs arent impossible to learn.
TrollingSage
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Am sorry where in the scan does it say Hiuzen mastered every jutsu in konoha except kkg?
TrollingSage I dont think the people of the manga are retarded.. I Don't think when they gave hiruzen his title for professor, that they expected him to use susanno.... bloodline abilities are blood line abilities.. The statement shouldn't be taken literally in that sense.... But it still speaks VOLUMES of what his arsenal of jutsu looked like..
Like sakura stated in part 1 , He had over 1k Jutsu...just like kakashi
Like sakura stated in part 1 , He had over 1k Jutsu...just like kakashi
hahahahahaha.. I like what you just did there.. That make you feel like a big man, you feel like a big boy now.lmao
But because we know that he is from the sarutobi clan and he didnt transfer a sharingan or byakugan in his eye its safe to safe he didnt have it.
lets try to be serious
TrollingSage
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That's what am trying to prove to him. That statement most likely means he knew and could use every jutsu he had the elemental affinity for and isnt a kkg.
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Omnipotent
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Didn't you say that even in old age he had above average chakra levels? Genin have been observed using some of the techniques that you copy-and-pasted, so your point is null.
I think you're taking the hyperbole a bit too literally.
If Hiruzen knew how to do all of these, including the clan-related techniques, then he would have been stated by Shikaku, Inoichi and Chouza to have been able to use them
How come he didn't use any of these techniques to face Kurama at age 57? I mean, Jiraiya was 54 and he was up and running, and according to you Hiruzen was soooo superior to him. Because Hiruzen didn't have them, that's why.
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The Alchemist
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orochimaru simply stated that hiruzen learned all the jutsus that could be learned in konoha.not including secret techniques that only nara,akimichi and others used
by that he meant that hiruzen knows all jutsus based on elemental affinities,katon,raiton,suiton,doton,fuuton,he probably mastered all these.but no more...saying that hiruzen had gentle fist and aburame bugs is just silly
by that he meant that hiruzen knows all jutsus based on elemental affinities,katon,raiton,suiton,doton,fuuton,he probably mastered all these.but no more...saying that hiruzen had gentle fist and aburame bugs is just silly
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Blaze Release
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Actually its you guys that do not understand Hiruzen learning all the jutsu's of Konoha. The jutsu's of konoha not the kg or hidden abilities. The jutsu's of konoha are the jutsu's that Hashirama/Tobirama left behind to the next generation of hokage's. Those are the jutsu's of konoha. When you become hokage, you get access to all these scrolls left behind by the previous hokage's. You can say the Jutsu's of konoha are the Senju clan's jutsu who were hailed as a clan with a 1000 skill.
Its these jutsu/scroll that naruto stole which contained the kage bunshin technique he learnt.
Look careful at the amount of scroll that naruto was searching for on the scroll shelves. Those are the techniques on konoha and NOT hidden techniques and what not. Those are all senju techniques, left behind. In other words his hype is still viable, only if you can understand it
Its these jutsu/scroll that naruto stole which contained the kage bunshin technique he learnt.
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.Look careful at the amount of scroll that naruto was searching for on the scroll shelves. Those are the techniques on konoha and NOT hidden techniques and what not. Those are all senju techniques, left behind. In other words his hype is still viable, only if you can understand it
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well answer this. Is the mystic palm technique known in the hidden leaf. If it is then hiruzen knows it, and its considered medical ninjutsu.
1. What does genin using the techniques have to due with anything.. That doesnt null my point at all, and you didnt even make a point with you statement. If hiruzen didnt use the technique it was most likely becuase it wasnt necesarry for the situation.
2. Why would they state it. what reason would they have to say hiruzen could use there techniques. When mentioning who can use rasengan kakashi's name was never mentioned. when the anbu and hiruzen discussed hashirama and his unique mokuton they never mentioned yamato's name. so that point you just made doesnt mean anything.
3. hiruzen was fighting with the entire village, he had the clans there so he wouldnt need to use them. And you didnt even see most of the fight, all they showed was hiruzen pushing nine tails out of the village and him getting ready to tank a TBB. Your not coming at me with any valid points that i should consider. The manga states that he is able to use all techniques from the hidden leaf, so thats what i believe. you haven come to me with any evidence to prove the manga wrong.
as soon as you show me were it says he knows all jutsu, not including the secret techniques, ill believe you.
I didnt get it from wikipedia. I got it from the manga that states hiruzen can use all jutsu in the hidden leaf.
Wow.. Ok, i wanting to believe you because you have nice facts and proof, but the only thing thats stopping me is the fact that the scroll you speak of is filled with kinjutsu techs. I doubt all the justu hiruzen knows are forbidden.
But plus reputation for the find.
Blaze Release
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As you saw there was many scrolls to choose from and naruto was told to steal the scroll of seals. Also note that it was just one section of the room. There were many other scrolls there that could contain whatever however the one naruto stole was on purpose. Hiruzen clearly knew the contents of the scroll naruto stole to state how dangerous it can be:
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All the techniques in the room are what hashirama the leader of the clan hyped to be a clan with 1000 skills left behind. Also note that the Sarutobi are hyped to learn techniques very quickly and take into consideration Hiruzen's age and it makes sense for him to have been able to learn and master all those techniques, which gave birth to the 'Professor' Nickname
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9th Raikage
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I dont have the time to tell you how many things are completely wrong about this thread. Nice try tho. I will say Hiruzen can not do the "Formation Ino–Shika–Chō" bc he cant do shadow techs as that is a bloodline limit of the Nara clan.
Good effort on this post.
Good effort on this post.