Hashirama rumor?

[Exaar]

Of course Hiruzen can't use healing jutsu... That's just insane... I mean if he can use, why didn't used it when he fought Oro ?

Why could he not be able to use them, he is skilled enough to be called a God/Master every tech that once existed in the leaf (besides KKG) Yet medical Ninjutsu is out of his reach? lol.

Him using medical ninjutsu would of just wasted even more chakra that he couldn't afford to lose, Plus he was never really seriously injured enough to need to use it, Apart from what he got Stabbed by Oros sword but by that point he was already dead because of RDS

This is not proof you retard. A fodder told about his Hokage that he is the strongest. That's all. I bet in Suna everyone thought that their Kage is the strongest... The situation is the same with every villages.

You don't need to be strong to tell someone about the opinion of others, Iruka was simply stating what people say about hiruzen.

Iruka being "Fodder" changes nothing.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Come on man, Hiruzen and Medical Ninjutsu? Hiruzen and REGENERATION? This is a whole new level of fanboyism.

 

[Exaar]

Come on man, Hiruzen and Medical Ninjutsu? Hiruzen and REGENERATION? This is a whole new level of fanboyism.

It's possible he did learn some medical Ninjutsu, He is skilled enough to easily have over 1000 Techs, To master every jutsu that existed in the leaf, Be called a God of shinobi, So what makes medical ninjutsu so "impossible" for him to have?.

I'm no where near saying he has a Tech like Tsunade/hashirama.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

You don't need to be strong to tell someone about the opinion of others, Iruka was simply stating what people say about hiruzen.

Iruka being "Fodder" changes nothing.

Actually it changes everything. He can't say to kids: " look, he is our Hokage. He is strong, but he is not as strong as the previous Hokages". So it's obvious he told them he is the strongest.

 

[Exaar]

Actually it changes everything. He can't say to kids: " look, he is our Hokage. He is strong, but he is not as strong as the previous Hokages". So it's obvious he told them he is the strongest.

Since when do you have to be "non-fodder" to tell people about what others said about hiruzen?.
If this was iruka's own personal statement/opinion you would be right, But it wasn't.

All iruka said is that People called hiruzen the strongest in the past, Hiruzen backed this up by telling iruka to not talk about the past. You really need to learn to understand about iruka's statement befor posting complete rubbish about it.

 

[Tormound]

Sike bro stop lying. Actually iruka stated that hashirama was the strongest hokage the leaf ever had. The first databook state the same thing n it says that hashirama was the strongest of his time. If I'm wrong give me manga pages.

So does that mean we successfully convinced you that Hashirama>Hiruzen?

 

[Tormound]

Ok 3 things for u also.
1 hashirama never fought edo madara. Edo madara is at least 5 times stronger than ems madara.
2 After madara wood clone was capture he even acknowledge that they kage deserve the title.
3 just cuz hashirama was able to defeat madara doesn't necessarily mean he is stronger or can beat anyone else.

Well when you beat the 5 kages, you're gonna be considered pretty badass and stronger than everyone same for the person who can beat said badass, and if Madara was talking about EMS instead of Edo self then why would he say only Hashirama could stop him? Should have just said that he was unstoppable then.

 

[Tormound]

Lol funny kishi disagrees with u

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This is from part 1... Don't you think maybe Kishi changed his mind? He pretty much said Hashirama was the strongest Hokage if only he can rival Madara.

 

[Tormound]

I don't care what anyone says if your called a god then nothing else can compare. Not being a fairytale a legend or an icon or myth none of those things come close. Nagato called himself a god n tho he does have godly powers its not the same being known as a god. The fact that his best student the same guy who was supposed to be 4th hokage thought that to defeat his senior sensei he had to use the supposedly most powerful jutsu to bring back both hiruzen sensei's and still fail to complete his goal against the same hiruzen that could barely do kage bushin. Yet people doubt his prime cuz they haven't seen it.

It's a title... It doesn't have be considered literally. Also he could be considered a god compared to who was alive at the time or whatnot.

 

[Exaar]

This is from part 1... Don't you think maybe Kishi changed his mind? He pretty much said Hashirama was the strongest Hokage if only he can rival Madara.

Only Minato/Kakashi can defeat Ms obito, Because they can counter his S/T.

This doesn't make them stronger than people who can not defeat him.

 

[MickNerks]

Hiruzen knows all techniques that exist in the leaf. If sakura and ino can use med nin, then I'm positive hiruzen could too. And he wouldn't have to use it against oro because he wasn't seriously wounded.

 

[Exaar]

Hiruzen knows all techniques that exist in the leaf. If sakura and ino can use med nin, then I'm positive hiruzen could too. And he wouldn't have to use it against oro because he wasn't seriously wounded.

I'm sure medical ninjutsu existed in the leaf during his prime, So it's not impossible for him not to have it.

Unless people claim medical ninjutsu never existed back then.

 

[Omnipotent]

He defeated madara first and then dealt with the beast.. But i find it funny that the bijuu suppressor couldnt fight on equal grounds as the kyuubi. Hashirama went as far as to say that the kyuubi's power is "TOOO GREAT". It was too great for even hashirama to deal with..

And Mito sealed the kyuubi within herself. hashirama had nothing to do with the sealing, mito says it in the middle panel.

People who are capable and have shown that they could subdue and defeat the nine tails:

3rd raikage
Naruto
Kushina
Minato

Hashirama was not capable of supressing its power or stopping it.

Don't spout foolishness. According to the manga, not only can Hashirama suppress tailed beasts, but he can control them as Madara did:

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Only Minato/Kakashi can defeat Ms obito, Because they can counter his S/T.

This doesn't make them stronger than people who can not defeat him.

Tell me how Hiruzen counters Hashirama's flower power jutsu. He gets knocked out, and loses the battle (why would Hashirama kill him?).

Tell me how Hiruzen counters Hashirama's mokuton clone jutsu, which Madara said that only he with his EMS could see through. He can't, he gets impaled like Tsunade.

 

[MickNerks]

Only Minato/Kakashi can defeat Ms obito, Because they can counter his S/T.

This doesn't make them stronger than people who can not defeat him.

^ I agree with this.. its a valid statement.

 

[Tormound]

Only Minato/Kakashi can defeat Ms obito, Because they can counter his S/T.

This doesn't make them stronger than people who can not defeat him.

Minato beating Obito? Yes, very possible and unlikely to lose. Kakashi winning? Iffy at best, he doesn't have enough chakra to constantly use Kamui, Obito can just literally teleport him like 5 times then Kakashi would be exhausted. Now since only Minato can beat Obito(doubtful it's only him alone but let's not get into that) It can be argued that Minato can be considered the strongest Hokage. Seriously man a teleport hack spam should be considered illegal in the shinobi world.

 

[sage22]

This is not proof you retard. A fodder told about his Hokage that he is the strongest. That's all. I bet in Suna everyone thought that their Kage is the strongest... The situation is the same with every villages.

WTF stop please. Comeback with manga facts.

 

[sage22]

So does that mean we successfully convinced you that Hashirama>Hiruzen?

Lol Naw I messed up

 

[Tormound]

This is not proof you retard. A fodder told about his Hokage that he is the strongest. That's all. I bet in Suna everyone thought that their Kage is the strongest... The situation is the same with every villages.

The guy has a point. A person who idolizes the Hokage saying how he is the strongest isn't the most greatest of sources. Again, the situation would be the same in any other village.

 

[Tormound]

Lol Naw I messed up

*Snap* Dang, and here i thought we actually reached a resolution.

 

[MickNerks]

I'm sure medical ninjutsu existed in the leaf during his prime, So it's not impossible for him not to have it.

Unless people claim medical ninjutsu never existed back then.

And since it was said that hashirama could use it then that means it was around.