Orochimaru: The Ultimate Antagonist [Proof]

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OROCHIMARU: THE ULTIMATE ANTAGONIST


In this thread i will be detailing/debating why Orochimaru has been the main antagonist throughout the course of the series and the biggest threat to the Narutoverse. This is NOT a thread comparing Orochi to Madara so before you Uchiha fans flame: Madara is naturally stronger than Orochimaru. However, in the ninja world, brute strength is not a pure indicator of lethality. INTEL is just as valuable as raw power. Throughout the post i shall be using:

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to make my argument that much more convincing. Please, let's have healthy DEBATE and DISCUSSION. Even if you disagree with me completely, I respect you that much more if you explain why you disagree and provide legitimate evidence to justify your views. At day's end, this is all CONJECTURE and no one is completely right until Kishi says so. (It is Kishi's story ultimately, not ours collectively lol). So without any further ado heres my theory and I'll see you in the comments section!​

Point #1: Orochimaru has extensive knowledge of the SO6P
In an era where most people regard the SO6P as myth, Orochimaru knew enough about his lineage to perform countless experiments on his descendants. For example:

- infusing Yamato with Senju DNA, finding a method to subdue Moukuton.
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- He had in his custody, the only Uzumaki female seen in the present tense of the series.
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- He can counter the fuuinjutsu used to seal Kurama into Naruto
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- He has an unusual amount of interest in Sasuke / Uchiha clan

Point #2: Edo Tensei
- Orochimaru mastered arguably what can be considered the strongest jutsu in the series, granting one the power to solo entire COUNTRIES. His extensive knowledge on various jutsu throughout the NarutoVerse makes this technique even more deadly b/c he can revive S class ninja and utilize their techniques.
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Point #3: Intel on Legendary Weapons
- Orochimaru has intel on the existence of mythical weapons that have been mentioned very sporadically throughout the series. Very little has been said about these weapons but one can assume that they are extremely powerful.
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Point #4: Rebirth
-Even if Orochimaru is killed or sealed, he can be reborn via one of his countless subordinates. Rebirth is something even Madara had difficulty achieving and Oro has been reborn at least three times thus far.

Point #5: Look Ma! No Hands!
- Orochimaru has remained a threat in the Narutoverse even without the ability to form hand seals. For the majority of the series he has been unable to fight at full capacity so one can only imagine what he is truly capable of considering we never seen him take a fight seriously (other than Hiruzen). The last time he had full access to his jutsu..he started a war against Konoha and revived Hashirama and Tobirama.

Theory​
In the next arc (s), I feel as if we can expect Orochimaru to be the main and final antagonist. I believe Sasuke will finally overcome his hatred and lust for power and will agree to return to Konoha and be forgiven. However, I think Orochimaru will take control of his body before that occurs and the final battle between Sasuke and Naruto will actually be Naruto vs. Orochimaru in Sasuke's body (think about Riku and Ansem from Kingdom Hearts). Because of his knowledge regarding Rikudou Sennin, i think Orochimaru will upgrade Sasuke's body with Senju DNA along with any other tricks he has up his sleeves. This will be a fitting end to the series, in my opinion.​
 

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Nice but I have a feeling he will turn good
 

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Needs more variation of color and font, but i do agree, he is the longest and IMO the most important/ hardest to kill antagonist.
 

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Needs more variation of color and font, but i do agree, he is the longest and IMO the most important/ hardest to kill antagonist.

I'm still pretty new to NB (4th Post I believe) but yea i wanted to add some gifs but it came out ugly so i just said **** it
 

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How will Naruto save Sasuke if he's under Orochimaru's hold? Sasuke is done as soon as that happens and Naruto can't save him at that point.
 

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How will Naruto save Sasuke if he's under Orochimaru's hold? Sasuke is done as soon as that happens and Naruto can't save him at that point.

Thats exactly what i said
"...and will agree to return to Konoha and be forgiven. However, I think Orochimaru will take control of his body before that occurs..."
 

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Agreeable! Orochimaru has by far been the closest thing to pure evil in the series. Even as a Konoha shinobi he was willing to sadisticlly kill orphans.

Now the hard problem to him becoming the antagonist is how does he get away from Sasuke. Clearly Orochimaru has the intention to take his body. Now after Sasuke uses Orochimaru what will happen? If There is a fight I imagine Sasuke winning unless Orochimaru retreats...if he does fall back then yes he becomes the main antagonist!

I personally want him to be the main antagonist. Madara is way too arrogant and he also seems to have a sense of justice as opposed to pure evil. Orochimaru on the other hand has no morals so long as he learns Jutsu! A true textbook villain....considering he has more insight then Kabuto, and Kabuto tried to claim he could be like Rikkudo I would imagine Orochimaru actually had a plan.
 

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Point 5 should be reading the uhciha tablet without a sharingan or ms and rinnegan.He knows more about the uchiha then most uchiha.
Had a damn empire he is the scholar of the naruto universe.
 

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Orochimaru needs to be the final antagonist. Ive believed that since...ever. Nobody tops him. I hope he steals Madara's body or something like that.
 

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Bravo.

I love your theory, i just hope that kishimoto will top it.

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every single prediction i make i hope kishi proves me wrong .. just to prove that he's less predictable lol
 

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Agreeable! Orochimaru has by far been the closest thing to pure evil in the series. Even as a Konoha shinobi he was willing to sadisticlly kill orphans.

Now the hard problem to him becoming the antagonist is how does he get away from Sasuke. Clearly Orochimaru has the intention to take his body. Now after Sasuke uses Orochimaru what will happen? If There is a fight I imagine Sasuke winning unless Orochimaru retreats...if he does fall back then yes he becomes the main antagonist!

I personally want him to be the main antagonist. Madara is way too arrogant and he also seems to have a sense of justice as opposed to pure evil. Orochimaru on the other hand has no morals so long as he learns Jutsu! A true textbook villain....considering he has more insight then Kabuto, and Kabuto tried to claim he could be like Rikkudo I would imagine Orochimaru actually had a plan.

If Oro had the creation of all things jutsu .. he doesn't need jutsu anymore LOL. But word he has no compassion for anything other than himself.
 

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Point 5 should be reading the uhciha tablet without a sharingan or ms and rinnegan.He knows more about the uchiha then most uchiha.
Had a damn empire he is the scholar of the naruto universe.

when did he read the tablet? did it ever say so in the manga? ( not a rhetorical question i honestly dont know)
 

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one of the best threads so far

u deserve a REP +

great job man

people who compare madara to Orochimaru are dumb
madara is only stronger

while in the other hand Orochimaru is the most dangerous villian in the show

he put hashirama DNA into Yamoto and make him something ( he was a fodder without it )

he also helped Danzo to get hashirama DNA and sharingans

his student Kabuto was controling a whole army of EDOS including madara and Nagato and this is only his student

Orochimaru is a legend and let's hope he is the last villian because he is the coolest
 
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