Sannin = Madara

[Uchiha Josephus]

I'm going to ignore that bias accusation of overrating and proceed to post like you're putting up a decent argument.

Madara does not need Infinite Chakra or Mokuton to use Perfect Susano'o. One Susano'o slash tore up mountains and demolished a large amount of land behind it. Imagine what it can do against humans?

And Orochimaru doesn't have Manda 2. Even if he did, a mountain busting attack would kill it easily.

The issue isn't us overrating Madara, you just want to be right so badly, you dismiss arguments.

This is also true. But I still say they could take on Non-Edo Madara. No one said they'd win low-diff. Just the opposite, no matter which way the battle went it would be VERY high difficulty.

 

[Punk Hazard]

One thing:

Orochimaru absorbed all his Sennin Mode Chakra from Kabuto after that fight.

And your point is?

 

[UchihaIzuna]

They are equally (perhaps stronger) than Madara when they all are together, check this out and please NO one word answers and denial without a logical explanation.

Chakra Level doesnt determine a Shinobi's Power, But His Jutsu and Mentality

Don't underestimate them, with all there new jutsu and power, I combined them and they seem to make a really powerful bunch.

Just imagining Madara going crazy and beating them isn't considered a "accurate depiction"

Note: Because Orochimaru is the actual user of Edo Tensei here, Madara doesnt have Edo Tensei! Automatically loosing 2 abilities that everyone "spam" in each Madara Thread:

• Meteor Technique, would kill himself along with the Sannin. Making it pointless.

• 25 Susanoo - Infinite Chakra is needed, as an single Kage Bushin already contains 20% of your chakra. Doing such would kill anyone who's limited in chakra.

And please, just please. The Juubi DOESNT belong to Madara, as it isnt a part of him. So by no means is the Juubi allowed in this battle. The Jiraiya might as well call Naruto for assistance.


What Sannin have in common:

• Colossal Summons

• Massive Chakra Reserves and Perfect Chakra Control

• All are Kage-Level

Orochimaru (Full Power - Perfect Vessel):

• Power of the White Snake (Making him impossible to kill, only by fuinjutsu can he be defeated)

• Manda II (Since the Turtle Island is either bigger or the same size as the Juubi, Manda II is shown being long than the Turtle Island, technically making it bigger than the Juubi, and that is titanic!)

• Sennin Mode(Serpent Style) - Counters Mangekyou Sharingan's Dojutsu, Amaterasu, easily avoided by sense or shedding of skin. Tsukuyomi, blocked out by Sennin Mode's "Snake Eye Closing" technique.

• Ninjutsu - Arsenal of deadly kinjutsu, he specialize in jutsu regarding Life and Death. Especially Edo Tensei(Which is an easy game changer)

• Massive Chakra - Though not revealed yet, his shown having a high chakra reach in his weakest form, summoning the 3 Rashomon Gates, when 1 Gate is said to take enough chakra to kill an ordinary person.(Databook 3)

• Supreme Intelligence, knowing all jutsu's (Including Rinnegan) he can easily counter it as he knows what could happen next. Going as far to have poison to suppress Mokuton.

Jiraiya

• The Perfect Counter Attacks - When fighting any opponent of any caliber he can deduce information from every jutsu they use, and develop a perfect counter attack against it. Example, Amaterasu can be countered with ease by the Fire Sealing Method.

Against Susanoo, he and the 2 Great Sage Toads can use the "Demonic Illusion: Toad Confrontation Chat" genjutsu that is able to counter Susanoo's great defense with great ease. As Susanoo shows vulnerabilities against sound.

• The Perfect Offence - With Sennin Mode, his Nin, Tai and Gen goes 2-3x stronger than usual, because he is skilled at all areas of jutsu(NinTaiGen) he is then the perfect offence, speed, power and dexterity.

• Stealth and Binding - In Toad Sennin Mode he shown a great variety of useful stealth ninjutsu, one of them being able to turn into a shadow and binding oneself to the victims shadow, just so they can be manipulated (Similar to Nara Clan's Hidden Jutsu)

• Great reach in techniques - Most of his Ninjutsu displayed massive power and great reach, such as Sage Art: Goemon, that can turn opponent into ashes with ease. Combined with Earth Release: Swamp of the Underground in can take down any big opponent and bring them down, making Goemon even more deadlier.

Tsunade

• Legendary Medical Ninjutsu - That being said she has the greatest chakra control out of the Sannin. She is able to heal any wound or any internal damage to chakra system, which only Medical-Nin of her caliber can do.

• Katsuyu - The best supplementary/support type summon. Katsuyu can split into smaller versions and attach themselves to the person they wish to heal, Tsunade can heal this person remotely using Katsuyu.

• Powerful Healing - With Strength of a Hundred Technique, her recovery rate increases to the same property as Hashirama Senju, making her impossible to kill in most cases(Fuinjutsu)

• Marvelous Strength - Shown to crack the ground with her finger, for her punching a human can kill them by the means of broken bones, leading to internal bleeding then death.

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Notice:

Before I unleash my knowledge on those saying Perfect Susanoo wins this, think again please:

• Manda II is shown to be bigger than Perfect Susanoo

• Slashing Mountains, destroying landscape in a instant, funny how you guys are forgetting the 3 Colossal Summons the Sannin has.

And read my thread. For the Madara fans.

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i agree with your point but you stated that sage mode increases the power of jiraiyas genjutsus, that is plainly wrong as jiraiya states himself he is a dud at gen, the only way he can use gen is the 2 sage toads.

 

[Simple Math]

There's this thing called "dodging". It's where the Sannin avoid the attacks of Susanoo or, more importantly, counter-attack so that Madara is on his heels.I would suggest immobilizing Susanoo in Jiraiya's mud-pit thing (whatever it was called) and then have the other two go in for the attack.

and what are the sannin's gonna do? run away from perfect susanoo forever? if Madara lay 1 slash on ground, then this will happen.

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[JIRAIYA perv]

so PS are gonna sit down and do nothing?



1 slash from PS can destroy mountain's and nothing will happen to the sannin's?

hmmm .... PS is the biggest problem they will have but about it's slashes i can say the same thing, will the sannin just stand there until they get hit ?? you see the thing is madara is very strong, experienced and has a lot of chakra, but he faces THREE other shinobi that have the same qualities without his mukton and unlimited chakra, though none of the sannin can beat him in a 1on1 of course, the three would mess him up ....

 

[Punk Hazard]

This is also true. But I still say they could take on Non-Edo Madara. No one said they'd win low-diff. Just the opposite, no matter which way the battle went it would be VERY high difficulty.

Not really. The only difficult one would be Oro.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Going by this yeah Sannin > madara

But like other guy said current madara has instant regeneration body infinite stamina and chakra plus rinnigan and Mokoton (I'm not counting the jubbi cuz there's a reason obito and madara r keeping there distance lml there not making there presence known lml)

But even with tht being said the 5 kages wasn't able to take madara out (thts including one Sannin )
I can't possibly see the Sannin taking this guy out despite all there combined efforts lml
Jariya would die tsunade would be bisected like she is now and oro would b damn there put of chakra but he would escape might take tsunade with him idk but yeah thts how it is



But how ur going with it I'm guessing u mean the Sannin >EMS madara yeah def agree with tht

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

How are the Sannins gonna dodge a mountain size attack? And Swamp of the Underworld might hinder it a bit, but won't be enough to save them.

PS sword cut 2 mountain's in half in matter of seconds and nothing was left of the 2 mountain's...so are you saying the Sannin can dodge such a big attack? so unless you have the speed of BM Naruto or teleport like Minato you can't get away from it.

Sure, if you stand there and wait for Madara to attack you're going to get screwed, no question. That's why attacking is the Sannin's best defense -> it keeps Madara on his toes, so to speak, and makes it difficult to get a clean shot. If possible, they can prevent him from even solidifying PS in the first place.

 

[Megatolium]

And your point is?

Kabuto used Orochimaru's body and jutsu's, its originally his, not Kabuto's.

Please re-read the part where Kabuto explained how Edo Tensei worked to Tobi. You would read this exact quote

"You could say my body is Orochimaru-sama's"

 

[Zlad]

Stupid is obvious stupid. Juubi can be summoned by both Obito and Madara

 

[BlackDude]

Madara >>>> Sannin xd

He probably fodderilize Orochimaru just like Itachi/Sasuke. and too top it off PS . :sy:

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

and what are the sannin's gonna do? run away from perfect susanoo forever? if Madara lay 1 slash on ground, then this will happen.

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I didn't say they'd be running forever. In fact I mentioned (in some other post) that attacking would be their best defence against PS. Perhaps even preventing its creation/solidification.

hmmm .... PS is the biggest problem they will have but about it's slashes i can say the same thing, will the sannin just stand there until they get hit ?? you see the thing is madara is very strong, experienced and has a lot of chakra, but he faces THREE other shinobi that have the same qualities without his mukton and unlimited chakra, though none of the sannin can beat him in a 1on1 of course, the three would mess him up ....

Yeah I agree. 1 on 1 the Sannin would be obliterated (maybe not Oro, that sneaky bastard xd), but together they can probably take him down high diff.

Not really. The only difficult one would be Oro.

Oro is definitely the most resilient. Together with the other two though I think they have a good shot at taking down Madara.

 

[Simple Math]

hmmm .... PS is the biggest problem they will have but about it's slashes i can say the same thing, will the sannin just stand there until they get hit ?? you see the thing is madara is very strong, experienced and has a lot of chakra, but he faces THREE other shinobi that have the same qualities without his mukton and unlimited chakra, though none of the sannin can beat him in a 1on1 of course, the three would mess him up ....

doesnt matter if they escape or just stand there.. they got no counter for it.. as seen here, one slash can screw the entire battlefield up

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EMS is Madara's full power so if the kages could'nt do anything, what can the sannin's do?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I read that already.

Regardless; They have no way around the PS.

We dnt know if PS is an EMS tech or rinnigan so tht doesn't Count js

 

[Simple Math]

not trying to wank Madara or anything, but this is getting ridiculous if people think he's so far below in the manga that his full power cant even beat the sannin's..

 

[Slug Princess]

I disagree. Perfect Susano'o would demolish Jiraiya and Tsunade. Orochimaru would be the only one to give him trouble because Oro doesn't die easily.

.... and Tsunade does??

hmmm

shame on you...

 

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[MrSimple]

not trying to wank Madara or anything, but this is getting ridiculous if people think he's so far below in the manga that his full power cant even beat the sannin's..

Since when you jumped to that conclusion, when you're the one that always underrating his full power? :sy: + He haven't even showed his limit...

 

[BlackDude]

NB is facked up look at some of these people thinking Sannin > Madara

He just brings out PS and kill these noobs easily . Madara >>>>>>>>> Sannin

Side note: He just fodderilize the Kages

 

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