Will Sakura surprass Tsunade?

[TenzaZangetsu]

Tsunade..

What about her?, she can't lace Sakura with Senju cells, well, actually she can, but that's not gonna happen. Sakura won't get power Kabuto-style..

 

[Bogard]

She is young, she still has time, so why not?

 

[Fanta]

What about her?, she can't lace Sakura with Senju cells, well, actually she can, but that's not gonna happen. Sakura won't get power Kabuto-style..

Anything can happen, I am 100% she will get a powerup of some sort. Probably not equaling Naruto and Sasuke but something. Also she is only 16.. what makes you think she is going to stay the same forever?

 

[Chatte]

What about her?, she can't lace Sakura with Senju cells, well, actually she can, but that's not gonna happen. Sakura won't get power Kabuto-style..

And Kabuto once again is the biggest example on how Kishi can turn tables.
So when Sakura will receive a power-up like that one, we shouldn't be amazed. Not the slightest bit.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

it's been hinted in the story that Sakura has the ability to surpass Tsunade maybe not now but she will eventually.

and why so much people hate and underrate her??

 

[TenzaZangetsu]

Anything can happen, I am 100% she will get a powerup of some sort. Probably not equaling Naruto and Sasuke but something. Also she is only 16.. what makes you think she is going to stay the same forever?

And Kabuto once again is the biggest example on how Kishi can turn tables.
So when Sakura will receive a power-up like that one, we shouldn't be amazed. Not the slightest bit.

Are you guys really convinced that Sakura might get a power-up using villian-like tactics??

 

[Fanta]

Are you guys really convinced that Sakura might get a power-up using villian-like tactics??

nobody said that. the point is - plot no jutsu

 

[oOYellow FlashOo]

i hope not.

 

[Slug Princess]

Sakura is shown to do at 16 what Tsunade did around her 20's so I pretty much believe that yes, she will.

mmm, Chatte, I'm pretty sure that for the development of the series Sakura will have to match Tsunade's level at some point. But in my opinion you are wrong... Tsunade won a war when she was 20 (you know she pretty much did) . When Tsunade was in her 20s she became a legend ... a Legendary Sannin. Therefore, saying that Sakura is able to do in her teens what Tsunade was able to do in her 20 is just false... Sakura is still no match for any character that has developed so far. Even though I give you that she should surpass Tsunade or else it wouldn't make any sense for the series. But I see Shizune with more probabilities of matching Tsunade than Sakura.

 

[Chatte]

mmm, Chatte, I'm pretty sure that for the development of the series Sakura will have to match Tsunade's level at some point. But in my opinion you are wrong... Tsunade won a war when she was 20 (you know she pretty much did) . When Tsunade was in her 20s she became a legend ... a Legendary Sannin. Therefore, saying that Sakura is able to do in her teens what Tsunade was able to do in her 20 is just false... Sakura is still no match for any character that has developed so far. Even though I give you that she should surpass Tsunade or else it wouldn't make any sense for the series. But I see Shizune with more probabilities of matching Tsunade than Sakura.

We don't know what Shizune did at her 16's.
And Tsunade in her second war displayed any other feats than the strength (which Sakura has) and the healing abilities (which she has as well)?

Sakura is 16 and fighting a war as well.

And Sozo Saisei was created after the war because Orochimaru had no idea about that technique.

So when I say it that she does at 16 what Tsunade did n her 20's I know what I am talking about.

 

[Slug Princess]

We don't know what Shizune did at her 16's.
And Tsunade in her second war displayed any other feats than the strength (which Sakura has) and the healing abilities (which she has as well)?

Sakura is 16 and fighting a war as well.

And Sozo Saisei was created after the war because Orochimaru had no idea about that technique.

So when I say it that she does at 16 what Tsunade did n her 20's I know what I am talking about.

mmm, not quite, when Tsunade was in her 20's she had a contract with a legendary summon.... that's pretty much it. Also, it was said by Jiraiya himself that her Healing abilities at that time were already "beyond" anyone else's in the world. Also, Konoha won the war pretty much thanks to Tsunade and how she created the medical corps.
Yes, Sakura is "fighting" a war (so far hasn't fought anyone) and she's not making any difference to this war. I'm not talking about the Saisei, she said himself she developed that technique because she didn't want to lose anyone else, so she worked on that after Dan was killed.
No... Sakura is no way near to Tsunade in her 20's. The fact that we saw Tsunade using her strength and healing abilities and Sakura uses the same abilities so far doesn't mean Sakura's matches Tsunade's at all, she uses the same skills because that's what Tsunade taught her. Tsunade was at a different level in my opinion. Also, Sakura's healing is below Shizune's, Tsunade's by way far, Kabuto in his 20's and even below Chiyo in my opinion because Chiyo's kinjutso to transfer life is a supplementary technique and considered a pinnacle of medical ninjutsu as well as the Saise.

 

[Chatte]

mmm, not quite, when Tsunade was in her 20's she had a contract with a legendary summon.... that's pretty much it. Also, it was said by Jiraiya himself that her Healing abilities at that time were already "beyond" anyone else's in the world. Also, Konoha won the war pretty much thanks to Tsunade and how she created the medical corps.
Yes, Sakura is "fighting" a war (so far hasn't fought anyone) and she's not making any difference to this war. I'm not talking about the Saisei, I she said himself she developed that technique because she didn't want to lose anyone else, so she worked on that after Dan was killed.
No... Sakura is no way near to Tsunade in her 20's.

The only difference is, indeed, Katsuyu. However...

Jiraya stated that her techniques and combat prowess weren't acquired by anyone not that they were beyond anyone's else's in this world.

Yes, because she trained them, she trained many medical corps. But in the Pein invasion who was the one leading the medical corps? Yes, Sakura.

Sakura hasn't fought anyone? Not made any difference in this war?
Please tell me how Sasori is anyone and how discovering the master-plan behind Obito's actions with Zetsu is any difference.

If she hadn't discovered this, Shikaku wouldn't have been able to come with a plan to use Naruto as a medium on all fronts. So she did do difference in this war.
Sozo Saises was created somewhere around her 30's at best.

Sakura is barely 16. Still has 4 years to have a contract with Katsuyu or any other summon, get techniques and battle experience.

Tsunade at 54 got to be what she is today. So Sakura has plenty of time to surpass Tsunade.

So yes way she is quite near to Tsunade in her mid 20's.

 

[Slug Princess]

The only difference is, indeed, Katsuyu. However...

Jiraya stated that her techniques and combat prowess weren't acquired by anyone not that they were beyond anyone's else's in this world.

Yes, because she trained them, she trained many medical corps. But in the Pein invasion who was the one leading the medical corps? Yes, Sakura.

Sakura hasn't fought anyone? Not made any difference in this war?
Please tell me how Sasori is anyone and how discovering the master-plan behind Obito's actions with Zetsu is any difference.

If she hadn't discovered this, Shikaku wouldn't have been able to come with a plan to use Naruto as a medium on all fronts. So she did do difference in this war.
Sozo Saises was created somewhere around her 30's at best.

Sakura is barely 16. Still has 4 years to have a contract with Katsuyu or any other summon, get techniques and battle experience.

Tsunade at 54 got to be what she is today. So Sakura has plenty of time to surpass Tsunade.

So yes way she is quite near to Tsunade in her mid 20's.

The debate I brought here is not whether Sakura is gonna surpass Tsunade or not.... that is something we have yet to see and something that should happen at some point or else Sakura would just be a troll in the series. The thing with the zetsu was a filler so it doesn't count. She fought Sasori? yes, I can't say otherwise and that was admirable,,, but she was just another puppet with 2 antidotes. Chiyo did the hardest part though Sakura did the dirty job. However, remember Chiyo had to use her Tensei on her because she was near death??
also, read my edit haha

also,,,, Tsunade got to be what she is (a Legendary Sannin) in her 20's... the fact that she developed 2 monster Kinjutsu, one in her 30's and the other in her 50's doesn'y mean she got to be what she is "just now". You know that.

 

[Amaterasuice]

I don't like Sakura, but if she doesn't ever surpass her sensei while her teammates surpassed their sanin senseis when they were 16 then I will be annoyed.

 

[Chatte]

The debate I brought here is not whether Sakura is gonna surpass Tsunade or not.... that is something we have yet to see and something that should happen at some point or else Sakura would just be a troll in the series. The thing with the zetsu was a filler so it doesn't count. She fought Sasori? yes, I can't say otherwise and that was admirable,,, but she was just another puppet with 2 antidotes. Chiyo did the hardest part though Sakura did the dirty job. However, remember Chiyo had to use her Tensei on her because she was near death??
also, read my edit haha

also,,,, Tsunade got to be what she is (a Legendary Sannin) in her 20's... the fact that she developed 2 monster Kinjutsu, one in her 30's and the other in her 50's doesn'y mean she got to be what she is "just now". You know that.

That was not a filler.

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It was cannon so it does count.

About Sasori, I would ask you to reconsider your perception about team-work. If it wasn't for her knowledge and Chiyo's battle experience they wouldn't have done it. It was a team-work effort. So I think you shouldn't downplay as the others too, heck, I'm tired of listening to the same old excuse, that's why I even made a thread about it (

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Tsunade became in her 20's yeah, I would comment that maybe around mid 20's, we know know for sure but by the design, it looks like that.
And I said what she reached her climax at her 54's, so yeah.

 

[Slug Princess]

That was not a filler.

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It was cannon so it does count.

About Sasori, I would ask you to reconsider your perception about team-work. If it wasn't for her knowledge and Chiyo's battle experience they wouldn't have done it. It was a team-work effort. So I think you shouldn't downplay as the others too, heck, I'm tired of listening to the same old excuse, that's why I even made a thread about it (

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if you wanna read).
Tsunade became in her 20's yeah, I would comment that maybe around mid 20's, we know know for sure but by the design, it looks like that.
And I said what she reached her climax at her 54's, so yeah.

I replied to your thread. I never doubted of Sakura's role in that fight, mkay? It was team work, sure... but you won't tell me that Chiyo didn't do the most impressive job here.
In my opinion Tsunade didn't reach her climax in her 50s. Indeed she reached a peak because she never stopped developing her Saise... but she reached her core in her 20s when she was already known as the best medical nin of the world and a Legendary Sannin.
My only point is that the 16 year old Sakura is no way near to Tsunade's prime. I bet on her, and I know that by logic she will surpass her master... but not just so fast.

 

[Chatte]

I replied to your thread. I never doubted of Sakura's role in that fight, mkay? It was team work, sure... but you won't tell me that Chiyo didn't do the most impressive job here.
In my opinion Tsunade didn't reach her climax in her 50s. Indeed she reached a peak because she never stopped developing her Saise... but she reached her core in her 20s when she was already known as the best medical nin of the world and a Legendary Sannin.
My only point is that the 16 year old Sakura is no way near to Tsunade's prime. I bet on her, and I know that by logic she will surpass her master... but not just so fast.

I think on the Chiyo part we shouldn't argue as you simply didn't understood anything about that thread. Not to be mean or anything, but you replied too fast, meaning that you didn't even read it carefully, you just wanted to respond to me quickly.

The climax is in her 50's, look at what she can do, compared to what she did before.

And yes she got to be world-renown for best medical nin but guess who is hailed as top medic nin at 16 in Konoha that now is fighting a war? Yeah, Sakura. It is only coming normally as she was Tsunade's apprentice.

And my point is that she is near to Tsunade's prime. As I told you, the only difference is Katsuyu.

But Sakura still has 4 years for that.

 

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[Slug Princess]

I think on the Chiyo part we shouldn't argue as you simply didn't understood anything about that thread. Not to be mean or anything, but you replied too fast, meaning that you didn't even read it carefully, you just wanted to respond to me quickly.

The climax is in her 50's, look at what she can do, compared to what she did before.

And yes she got to be world-renown for best medical nin but guess who is hailed as top medic nin at 16 in Konoha that now is fighting a war? Yeah, Sakura. It is only coming normally as she was Tsunade's apprentice.

And my point is that she is near to Tsunade's prime. As I told you, the only difference is Katsuyu.

But Sakura still has 4 years for that.

Chatte, the point that Sakura is top medical nin in Konoha isn't valid since that role corresponds to Shizune, who was in the battlefield while Sakura was in a hospital for the Alliance. Also, what makes it invalid against Tsunade is that Tsunade in her 20's was best of the world,,,, put that against "best of Konoha" (which she isn't)
You are right, I didn't read the thread carefully... in fact I skip most of it because that isn't new for me. i've seen that fight lots of times because I love it. mkay? I agree with you with the team work they did...

Edit: I did read your whole thread now. Outstanding job

 

[Chatte]

Chatte, the point that Sakura is top medical nin in Konoha isn't valid since that role corresponds to Shizune, who was in the battlefield while Sakura was in a hospital for the Alliance. Also, what makes it invalid against Tsunade is that Tsunade in her 20's was best of the world,,,, put that against "best of Konoha" (which she isn't)
You are right, I didn't read the thread carefully... in fact I skip most of it because that isn't new for me. i've seen that fight lot's of times because I love it. mkay? I agree with you with the team work they did...

Isn't valid? Check the databooks. Kishi said so himself.
At that time, Shizune was doing an autopsy then she died. Is Sakura that took over all the responsibility. Kishi even shows her in the panel of the medical nins with her in front.
Shizune is the head captain now and stood more in the tents as Sakura was sent over on the batterfield with Kakashi's division.
Tsunade was the best in the world becasue there weren't other medical nins around since Tsunade IS the one who created medical ninjutsu.
And yes, Sakura is one of the best.

You skipped it and the fight might not be new to you as it wasn't for anyone, but Sakura's contribution would've been new to you as you clearly seem not to pick things up from there that show how good she is at her age and that she is already a mini-Tsunade.

LE: I will show you tomorrow by scans why I state what I state.