Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

[Lightbringer]

maybe because naruto is the main character?

 

[~Sovereign~]

where is the proof of all you said? you have none, until you can show me some a link where naruto kicks sasukes ass their evenly matched. More like naruto has no counters for sasuke.
narutos tbb doesnt beat sasukes susanoo sorry to break it to ya
and kyubi = 1 bijuu
even the bijuu himself said all bijuu's are equal

wind>lightning...are you stupid?

naruto's speed>>>A's speeed......A dodged amaterasu, so can naruto

naruto is immune to genjutsu

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if tbb can possibly destroy perfect susano, what makes you think sasuke's weaker susano can match tbb????

i already told you kyuubi>5 bijuu, BM naruto is using kyuubi's power and kyuubi is only at 50% of his power

you're a joke, what can sasuke do that naruto cant counter???

naruto>>>>>>sasuke ATM

actually you're wrong i think you need to reread the manga, minato was only known as the fastest ninja alive because noone saw madaras and obito's speed. They claimed he was the fastest not knowing who madara and obito was. Noone knew madara was alive or obito existed

so your saying madara and obito's speed>>>minato's speed?????????????

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[moyo]

Madara was barely able to keep up with the raikage's speed

 

[The Only Shinobi]

Imma just say naruto might not be that weak but madara might say hes serious but the dude is just playing around after susano got hit he just chillen in the backround an Obito notice hes acting an playing around like a child bc seriously if he wanted them dead he would do it sure naruto might put up a fight but if madara did what he did to the kages naruto an co would be screw. This is plot no justu at greatest cuz shit kakashi an guy should hav both died long ago massive chakra lost pulling it out their ass also hell obito should hav died when kakashi saw his gut SUPER PLOT NO JUSTU

 

[mun]

wind>lightning...are you stupid?

naruto's speed>>>A's speeed......A dodged amaterasu, so can naruto

naruto is immune to genjutsu

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if tbb can possibly destroy perfect susano, what makes you think sasuke's weaker susano can match tbb????

i already told you kyuubi>5 bijuu, BM naruto is using kyuubi's power and kyuubi is only at 50% of his power

you're a joke, what can sasuke do that naruto cant counter???

naruto>>>>>>sasuke ATM



so your saying madara and obito's speed>>>minato's speed?????????????

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just cause its wind > lightning doesnt mean anything sasuke has fire too.
naruto can dodge amaterasu so what? sasuke can put the flames around himself
where do you even have proof that a tbb can destroy a susanoo, nevermind a perfect one?
and btw dont respond to me cause you're a joke, you're the dumbest naruto fan on this board, you think madara can't use the other paths just because he didn't "show" them to us

 

[mun]

And now you're also contradicting yourself. The blue text easily contradicts the red text. Naruto is known as the fastest ninja currently living. The title belonged to the Raikage, who he has surpassed in speed; so the title is now his. You said in the red text that you don't think Madara is that fast at all, then in the blue text you say Naruto, who is the fastest ninja alive, isn't faster than Madara. If Naruto, who is the fastest person alive isn't faster than Madara, then you're saying Madara is at least equally fast as Naruto correct?
That contradicts your statement in the red because you claim you don't think Madara is that fast.
Which is it? Is he as fast as Naruto, or is he really not that fast? They are not one and the same.

Regarding the orange, text, Kishimoto contradicts himself more than once. From part I-II, and in all of his interviews, Kishimoto has made multiple conflicting statements. This can not be denied.

Finally, regarding the purple text. Like I said in my previous post, Madara can be sealed. Is that not a weakness?
This is yet again another example of Kishimoto contradicting himself. He says Madara has no weakness, yet Madara can still be sealed in his Manga.

Your argument has effectively collapsed on itself. What will you fall back on now?

P.S I made it color coded so you can read it easier. I figured you would need it.

Before that statement, I never claimed Madara to be as fast as naruto, I thought he is but never claimed you know the difference? But yeah now I claim he's at least naruto's speed.

You say Kishi contradicts himself many times, but where is your proof? And don't use the manga, only use interviews.

And sorry Madara doesn't have a weakness, noone is capable of sealing him, so how could he have a weakeness?

 

[mun]

Madara was barely able to keep up with the raikage's speed

lol @ this, madara was toying with him. What happened to the raikage ?

 

[Superior]

Before that statement, I never claimed Madara to be as fast as naruto, I thought he is but never claimed you know the difference? But yeah now I claim he's at least naruto's speed.

You say Kishi contradicts himself many times, but where is your proof? And don't use the manga, only use interviews.

And sorry Madara doesn't have a weakness, noone is capable of sealing him, so how could he have a weakeness?

Nah, I'm done. You're too easy. No proof, all stupid responses.
GG though kid.

 

[mun]

Nah, I'm done. You're too easy. No proof, all stupid responses.
GG though kid.

actually you have no proof, you say madara can be sealed wheres your proof? The only proof I need is kishi's statement and that makes me believe Madara speed is on par with naruto. You have 0 proof that kishi made contradicting statements, you just made that stuff up.
You have absolutely 0 proof that naruto is faster than Madara.
You can never comeback to what I say
GG tho next time you'll win maybe against an easier guy to debate with.

 

[~Sovereign~]

lol @ this, madara was toying with him. What happened to the raikage ?

raikage got tired of course lol

just cause its wind > lightning doesnt mean anything sasuke has fire too.
naruto can dodge amaterasu so what? sasuke can put the flames around himself
where do you even have proof that a tbb can destroy a susanoo, nevermind a perfect one?
and btw dont respond to me cause you're a joke, you're the dumbest naruto fan on this board, you think madara can't use the other paths just because he didn't "show" them to us

naruto can dodge fire

yea becuase amaterasu flames will save sasuke from a tbb LMAO

tbb>>>sasukes's susano

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[mun]

raikage got tired of course lol



naruto can dodge fire

yea becuase amaterasu flames will save sasuke from a tbb LMAO

tbb>>>sasukes's susano

tbb doesnt own sasuke's susanoo sorry, if sasuke had the flames around himself naruto wont be able to touch him physically

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[Ngylle]

I think the question should be.

Why Naruto is Having so much trouble Fighting a guy that is just to bored to fight back, chilling out, relaxing, enjoying the time before the turn the world into a dream place.

Maybe the Plot shield has abandoned Naruto this time. starting to realize that he cant defeat Madara.
He cant fight Obito by his own.
He cant fight Madara by his own.

Because rightnow in the mange it seems more that Kakashi has more chances against Madara/Obito than Naruto and his all mighty power himself.

why With all his unlimted Chakra, Kyuby help, Rasengan, his lightspeed, friends help, maincharacter advantage...
Why he cant defeat madara or obito?

Lets give kakashi unlimited chakra, so he might do more than what naruto is doing with all his chakra and power.

have unlimited chakra does not grant you skills.
To bad Kakashi was not born with the chakra. the only downfall of his skills.

 

[moyo]

lol @ this, madara was toying with him. What happened to the raikage ?

Madara has unlimited chakara which the raikage does not have

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

just because i didn't punchuate doesn't mean my writtings were wrong.
Amd tard don't bother me with you bumb logics

Lol you are the most close minded person here. Do you even attempt to listen to what other people are saying, or are you one of those guys that can never be wrong. I will admit when i'm wrong. Obito was making them struggle bro, madara single handedly took at thousands of shinobi, and deafeated the five kages. Naruto could pull it off too imo, but don't you think it would just be too hard if obito and madara went all out?

 

[lol99]

im not making anything up, minato was faster than obito 16 years ago, so you're saying he the same speed? again you have no proof Its like me saying that naruto speed cant improve before the time skip

you have no evidence that naruto is faster than madara or obito so dont try and go say hes faster than them

you just went full retard, never go full retard

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

plz give me a break madara said he don't need em any more than means he is all out face it if madara know how to eliminate em he would have got it done with and started the rectuals since with the way you sounded it obv you madara fan boy you just don't want to accept madara failed to capture em,he wanted to kill em with his powers but no it didn't work now he is using juubi what part of it don't you understand he is all out.
Renin abilities are counterable by naruto. Ofcourse you would say nagato did same thing naruto knew bout to him but that was k m naruto not BM you guys still think as if naruto is still on KM level

where does it say that he doesn't want to capture them anymore? where does it say that he wants to kill them? all he said was that he wanted to get them before the juubi was revived. doesn't mean he still can't capture and seal them into the juubi. Obito revived the juubi, not Madara. now he wants to test its powers just like he wanted to test the powers he got from Hashirama's cells. Naruto has been going all out from the start with the intent to kill WITH HELP and yet Obito and Madara are still there so what does that say about your favorite character as well?.

No he isn't, what he said in that post is true.

obvious fan boy is obvious

you cant tell this stupid guy anything xd

talking about he's not a fanboy LMAO



how about STFU and read the first page, i said naruto>madara WITHOUT edo tensai

i never said naruto>edo madara, i said edo madara cant CAPTURE naruto you stupid b*tch

the reason i keep mentioning the link about perfect susano is because these madara fans keep saying "madara hasnt used perfect susano", so i prove it wrong like always, but someone like you dont even understand because your comprehending skills are low

you're right i did give my opinion...but its the truth....i said MADARA CANT CAPTURE NARUTO

madara even admits that he couldnt capture naruto and killer bee, so your arguing with the manga like very other madara fanboy

i didnt say kyuubi was stronger than "the rest" so dont put words in my mouth, i said kyuubi>5 bijuu, naruto helped but kyuubi is still only at 50%...kyuubi's tbb did match 5 bijuu's tbb....so im d*ckriding because i stated the truth and repeated the truthto these denial madara fanboys???????

ill tell you what...how about you continue to "stay out of discussions"

enjoy your day

at bold part ^ haha you mad
so you're gonna handicap Madara being an edo by taking it away and throwing Naruto at his power now in a match against him right? yeah that's not what's any of this is about so bringing that up is pointless.
please SHOW me where it says the 9 tails > 5 bijuu
also, where does it say that kyuubi is CURRENTLY only at 50%? you trying say that ever since Minato sealed half his power that he didn't get any of it back through time? wasn't it said that he can do that or did you forget? did you not see what happened to it when Naruto took control how sucked up it looked? obviously it restores its charkra so you fail again. one counter does not make it stronger than 5 bijuus. that's only an opinion, not a manga fact.

raikage got tired of course lol



naruto can dodge fire

yea becuase amaterasu flames will save sasuke from a tbb LMAO

tbb>>>sasukes's susano

everyone overrates the tbb and here's why since you all forgot.....

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Suigetsu took one to the face and he's nowhere near top 10. guess what? he's still alive and well so saying that Sasuke in his new susano would not survive a tbb is ridiculous.

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

where does it say that he doesn't want to capture them anymore? where does it say that he wants to kill them? all he said was that he wanted to get them before the juubi was revived. doesn't mean he still can't capture and seal them into the juubi. Obito revived the juubi, not Madara. now he wants to test its powers just like he wanted to test the powers he got from Hashirama's cells. Naruto has been going all out from the start with the intent to kill WITH HELP and yet Obito and Madara are still there so what does that say about your favorite character as well?.



obvious fan boy is obvious



at bold part ^ haha you mad
so you're gonna handicap Madara being an edo by taking it away and throwing Naruto at his power now in a match against him right? yeah that's not what's any of this is about so bringing that up is pointless.
please SHOW me where it says the 9 tails > 5 bijuu
also, where does it say that kyuubi is CURRENTLY only at 50%? you trying say that ever since Minato sealed half his power that he didn't get any of it back through time? wasn't it said that he can do that or did you forget? did you not see what happened to it when Naruto took control how sucked up it looked? obviously it restores its charkra so you fail again. one counter does not make it stronger than 5 bijuus. that's only an opinion, not a manga fact.



everyone overrates the tbb and here's why since you all forgot.....

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Suigetsu took one to the face and he's nowhere near top 10. guess what? he's still alive and well so saying that Sasuke in his new susano would not survive a tbb is ridiculous.

hey tard madara said he doesn't need em to revive the juubi and since you like to ask question i m admiting it yes i cant answer your question but can you answer mine.
WHERE IN THE MANGA WAS IT STATED THAT MADARA IS THE STRONGEST,WHERE IN THE MANGA WAS IT STATED THAT PS=KURAMA,WHERE DOES IT SAY KURAMA=I TAIL BEAST(so cause octopus said power is not bout the number of tails a tail beast have now it makes kurama= 1 tail? can you prove i? So will you agree if i say juubi= 1 tail too just because power is not according to the number of tails a tail beast have? Mmm?),WHERE IN THE MANGA DOES IT SAY NARUTO HAVE GONE ALL OUT? plz answer these questions you fanboy!

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

hey tard madara said he doesn't need em to revive the juubi and since you like to ask question i m admiting it yes i cant answer your question but can you answer mine.
WHERE IN THE MANGA WAS IT STATED THAT MADARA IS THE STRONGEST,WHERE IN THE MANGA WAS IT STATED THAT PS=KURAMA,WHERE DOES IT SAY KURAMA=I TAIL BEAST(so cause octopus said power is not bout the number of tails a tail beast have now it makes kurama= 1 tail? can you prove i? So will you agree if i say juubi= 1 tail too just because power is not according to the number of tails a tail beast have? Mmm?),WHERE IN THE MANGA DOES IT SAY NARUTO HAVE GONE ALL OUT? plz answer these questions you fanboy!

when did he say he didn't need them? i know Obito said that, but we're talking about Madara here right.

allow me to answer those questions with a few more questions......

where in any of my posts did I say that he was the strongest?
where does it say that 9 tails > PS?
where does it say that 9 tails > 5 bijuu?

Is Naruto and all his help trying to capture or kill the enemy? answer that and you have an answer to your own question. don't be asking me things that i never brought up either. kind a makes it look like you're arguing with nobody haha

LOL calls me a fan boy but you got Naruto in your avatar, sig, and name.

 

[shogun973]

ok stop number 1 narutois the name of the show
number 2 madara is playing and trying new jutsu
number 3 madara is trying to capture not kill
number 4 stfu

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

I think the question should be.

Why Naruto is Having so much trouble Fighting a guy that is just to bored to fight back, chilling out, relaxing, enjoying the time before the turn the world into a dream place.

Maybe the Plot shield has abandoned Naruto this time. starting to realize that he cant defeat Madara.
He cant fight Obito by his own.
He cant fight Madara by his own.

Because rightnow in the mange it seems more that Kakashi has more chances against Madara/Obito than Naruto and his all mighty power himself.

why With all his unlimted Chakra, Kyuby help, Rasengan, his lightspeed, friends help, maincharacter advantage...
Why he cant defeat madara or obito?

Lets give kakashi unlimited chakra, so he might do more than what naruto is doing with all his chakra and power.

have unlimited chakra does not grant you skills.
To bad Kakashi was not born with the chakra. the only downfall of his skills.

ahahahhahah lemme tell you kishi made a mistake saying madara has no weaknesses now he can't even cover it up properly naruto is the one suffering from kishi now.BM naruto was very fast it is impossible for madara and obito to have been able to match up naruto's speed but what did kishi do? He made kurama weaker than before just so he could cover up his statement earlier.kishi should have spoken in his language during the interview maybe then he would have known what he is saying