Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

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Every manga, anime or any form of fiction does this. The hero goes up against a villian who is basically invincible, and when all hope is lost pulls off a miracle and saves the day.

Its called the climax. This is no different than any other story's climax. So it isn't laughable its just a normal climax.

Exactly, you just agreed with me that he can't otherwise.
 

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Exactly, you just agreed with me that he can't otherwise.

What were you expecting? You do realize that there are no other possibilities. Madara is just a drawing. By the plot arguement the only reason that Madara is so powerful is because Kishi decided it.

Madara is just a standard villian, with big ego and villianous sense of humor.
 

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No one cares that Naruto is the main character at this rate. Madara has rinnegan, ems, mokuton and more, it's laughable to think that Naruto has a chance to win in a real fight without any sort of plot.

its laughable for you to think madara can go on naruto all those techs you mentioned naruto already countered it.
Naruto countered madara's techs you said plot so every thing naruto do now is plot huh? Just i understand you are just jealous. BM naruto is faster than anyone alive kakashi's sharingan was not able to see his speed but obito and madara where able to and even could keep up.how in the world can some one keep up with an oponent as fast as light? Ofcouse plot hole
 

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Naruto is supposed to be the fastest character, why is madara & obito able to keep up with his speed ? Is naruto also holding back?

where does it say naruto is the fastest character lol? you naruto fans are ridiculous, naruto is only as fast as his dad not the fastest character
 

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its laughable for you to think madara can go on naruto all those techs you mentioned naruto already countered it.
Naruto countered madara's techs you said plot so every thing naruto do now is plot huh? Just i understand you are just jealous. BM naruto is faster than anyone alive kakashi's sharingan was not able to see his speed but obito and madara where able to and even could keep up.how in the world can some one keep up with an oponent as fast as light? Ofcouse plot hole
where in the manga has naruto countered madaras rinnegan, ems, mokuton ?
theres no plot hole you're just a retard, sorry no where in the manga does it say narutos BM is faster than madara and obito
and dont even compare kakashi's sharingan to an uchiha's sharingan
 

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where does it say naruto is the fastest character lol? you naruto fans are ridiculous, naruto is only as fast as his dad not the fastest character

That was in KCM, he is faster in BM. By the way his father was known as the fastest ninja with the FTG. So you kind of answered your own question. Just by equaling Minato's speed Naruto is the fastest ninja alive.
 

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That was in KCM, he is faster in BM. By the way his father was known as the fastest ninja with the FTG. So you kind of answered your own question. Just by equaling Minato's speed Naruto is the fastest ninja alive.
actually you're wrong i think you need to reread the manga, minato was only known as the fastest ninja alive because noone saw madaras and obito's speed. They claimed he was the fastest not knowing who madara and obito was. Noone knew madara was alive or obito existed
 

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actually you're wrong i think you need to reread the manga, minato was only known as the fastest ninja alive because noone saw madaras and obito's speed. They claimed he was the fastest not knowing who madara and obito was. Noone knew madara was alive or obito existed

Dude, Minato was faster than Obito when he beat him during the 9 tails attack.

Naruto was able to blitz and stop Madara from killing Might Gai and stop Obito from killing Kakashi.

Please don't make these things up.
 

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Dude, Minato was faster than Obito when he beat him during the 9 tails attack.

Naruto was able to blitz and stop Madara from killing Might Gai and stop Obito from killing Kakashi.

Please don't make these things up.
im not making anything up, minato was faster than obito 16 years ago, so you're saying he the same speed? again you have no proof Its like me saying that naruto speed cant improve before the time skip

you have no evidence that naruto is faster than madara or obito so dont try and go say hes faster than them
 

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where in the manga has naruto countered madaras rinnegan, ems, mokuton ?
theres no plot hole you're just a retard, sorry no where in the manga does it say narutos BM is faster than madara and obito
and dont even compare kakashi's sharingan to an uchiha's sharingan

You always mention plot to revolve around naruto obv plot made everything.kishi choose what ever he want to do you jealous fanboy has noting to do with it
NOTE: i m not a rude type but you called me a tard first buddy cause thats what you sasudumd fanboys are good at
 
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im not making anything up, minato was faster than obito 16 years ago, so you're saying he the same speed? again you have no proof Its like me saying that naruto speed cant improve before the time skip

Dude Naruto in BM moves at nearly instantaneus speeds, Madara and Obito are not faster. There is nothing in the manga that supports this. Please show a slide that shows Madara and Obito moving faster than Naruto.
 

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Dude Naruto in BM moves at nearly instantaneus speeds, Madara and Obito are not faster. There is nothing in the manga that supports this. Please show a slide that shows Madara and Obito moving faster than Naruto.
i didnt say madara or obito is faster than naruto but naruto aint faster than madara or obito

You always mention plot to revolve around naruto obv plot made everything.kishi choose what ever he want to do you jealous fanboy has noting to do with it
NOTE: i m not a rude type but you called me a tard first buddy cause thats what you sasudumd fanboys are good at
you're stating stuff I already know, you said there was a plot hole when there isn't
 
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i didnt say madara or obito is faster than naruto but naruto aint faster than madara or obito
you just keep pullling shit out of your ass unless you show some evidence don't go around saying naruto is faster than these 2

Yeah you are a troll. And you are unneccesarily rude. I don't need to prove it, ask anyone else.

Oh and - rep.
 
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im not making anything up, minato was faster than obito 16 years ago, so you're saying he the same speed? again you have no proof Its like me saying that naruto speed cant improve before the time skip

you have no evidence that naruto is faster than madara or obito so dont try and go say hes faster than them

Where is it stated in the Manga that Obito or Madara are faster than average Ninja?
They have literally zero speed feats, and Madara hasn't even moved around much since he was revived. You're literally making stuff up.
 

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Where is it stated in the Manga that Obito or Madara are faster than average Ninja?
They have literally zero speed feats, and Madara hasn't even moved around much since he was revived. You're literally making stuff up.
im not making stuff up , i didnt claim madara and obito is faster than naruto but you can't say naruto is faster than madara and obito and where in the manga does it says madara and obito have zero speed feats huh? clearly you're the one making stuff up gtfo
 
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Yeah you are a troll. And you are unneccesarily rude. I don't need to prove it, ask anyone else.

Oh and - rep.

im not a troll and LOL nice you - rep me ima go cry now

you can't debate me, you can't win against me, you can't prove your argument.
You keep claiming naruto this naruto that without any evidence, clearing you're making stuff up you naruto fan-boy
 

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im not making stuff up , i didnt claim madara and obito is faster than naruto but you can't say naruto is faster than madara and obito and where in the manga does it says madara and obito have zero speed feats huh? clearly you're the one making stuff up gtfo

Yes, we can assume he is faster than both of them because unlike either Madara or Obito, Naruto has multiple speed feats throughout the war.
With that information, we can conclude that Naruto is faster than them both.
Do you understand what a "feat" is? It is something a character accomplishes in the manga.
Why would it say in the Manga that a character has no feats, when a feat is their actions? I say they have no feats because they didn't do anything that would indicate they have above average speed.
Your response was pretty rude btw.
 
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you're stating stuff I already know you retard, you said there was a plot hole when there isn't

you sasudumb cannot understand any thing what ever you say you cannot change the way naruto is progressing
 

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Yes, we can assume he is faster than both of them because unlike either Madara or Obito, Naruto has multiple speed feats throughout the war.
With that information, we can conclude that Naruto is faster than them both.

So what if naruto speed has been shown ? you can't assume naruto's faster than them lol, madara is the strongest ninja since sage of six paths, you don't think hes fast? and obito fought with naruto so im pretty sure hes on par with narutos speed
 
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