The End All Debate on the SO6P

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

The Sage of Six paths had two sons. The Elder's descendants became the Uchiha and Younger's Descendants became the Senju

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Many members have a concept that the Uzumaki are senju Descendants:

Senju A, had a child with Non-Senju B...and That child was Uzumaki #1 -> Procreates -> Uzumaki Clan"

I beg to differ.

Here's why:
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According to the Manga, the Uzumaki were distant Blood Relative To the Senju. Who was the First Senju? The So6p? No. The first Senju was the the Younger son...The Sage was essentially a combination of both Senju and Uchiha's Roots. It is therefore impossible for the Sage to be an Uzumaki (relative).

A Blood relative could either mean:

A) The concept what members have ^
B) The Sage's Younger Son had a Cousin/Aunt/uncle/ect. that had children that started the Uzumaki Clan
C) The Sage had a relative that Brought about the Uzumaki.
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Answering the Question: Why couldn't the Uzumaki Be Descendants of the Senju?

The Uzumakis are known for their incredible longevity and life force, and because they were masters at Fuuinjutsu/Sealing techniques.

The Senju weren't known for being masters at Funninjutsu. Just Life force and physical energy...
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Hopefully the above has clarified the fact that it's Impossible for the Sage to be a Pure Uzumaki. Now answering Final Question:

How would the Uzumaki learn their Sealing techniques then if the aren't descendants of the sage?

The Sage originates for a line of priest.
It didn't specify, and were not sure if this means Family, if so then it adds up.

If not, then the Sage thought their ancestors, being that they use the same sealing tech's the sage did.

If they are distant blood relatives
Mito and Hashirama is technically incest
The Theory states that so6p had no spouse, and he also used Creation of All Things to make his sons too, making them his technical father
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

I believe he was definetly an uzumaki, possibly the first or one of the first but I don't see a way that he isn't uzumaki
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

Excellent as expected from PuppyDogGeneral, a fellow Madara fanboy.
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

What about the Hyuuga Clan, arent they related to the Uchiha?
 

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Honestly we cant know. In fact there has never been an actual picture of him with the rinnengan that wasnt from the way some one envisioned him looking. Jiraya, Nagato, Tobi etc. all pictured him with the Rinnengan. The only persons memory we can rely on is the Kyuubi's and in his memory the author does well not to show his eyes.

I am not saying he didnt have rinnengan at all, cus i believe he did after he sealed the Juubi. But I submit to you, that there is page of him with rinnengan AT ALL that is some one directly remembering what he looks like, just assumptions.

Ya thats what i wanna say as kyubbi was from the time after the sealing of juubi .... n we see no reningan .... Now i can say that he lost reningan after using creation of all things ... it will make sense :p ... Nd if a thing isnt in manga it doesnt mean it cant happen
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

If they are distant blood relatives
Mito and Hashirama is technically incest
The Theory states that so6p had no spouse, and he also used Creation of All Things to make his sons too, making them his technical father
This isn't Godzilla...
I believe he was definetly an uzumaki, possibly the first or one of the first but I don't see a way that he isn't uzumaki

Then you didn't read this thread.
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

If people think that the SO6P is an Uzumaki, maybe they should study the way a familytree works.

Unless an Uzumaki traveled back in time and pulled a 'Doc Brown' with the Sage's kids, it immpossible for him to be an Uzumaki.
 

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Wow, you totally convinced me lol I never really thought about it before but now it makes sense +++***** well as much as I can give lol.
 

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Point 1: SHow an Uzumaki using a simple bunshin. I have asked people over and over to show any Uzumaki using even a simple ninjutsu.

Point 2: Okay, sure, I guess unless some one comes out and screams, "look at the Juubi's Rinnengan" than yeah I guess youre right? Look at it though, it is cleary a Rinnengan with sharingan tomae's, kishi shouldnt have to spell that out for you since he has literally drawn it out for you.

Point 3: Yes the sage could use ninjutsu after he beat the Juubi, there is no other evidence to the contrary.

Point 4: I never said people all of the sudden obtained chakra after the defeat of the Juubi, those are your words.

Point 5: The Rinnengan came from teh Juubi, the Sage obtained it. Then the ability for his descendants to obtain were already laid out. Im not arguing Senju+Uchiha doesnt equal rinnengan, but it was not until the sage sealed the Juubi inside himself that ninja were able to have the rinnengan, given they have the blueprints.
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Bro, I think you do not know what a ninjutsu is. Here Karin is obviously using ninjutsu:
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And yes this is a ninjutsu. You should probably look up the definition of ninjutsu.. Sealing techniques are ninjutsu as well. Seriously...

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Yes it is a rinnengan with sharingan tomoes. You said it. But that isn't a rinnengan then, thus it proves nothing. Besides it has been shown as being red, though not in an official image.

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As said. He could use sealing techniques, which is ninjutsu, duh..

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Sorry about that then, I probably misread something then.

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I don't think you explained it very well, and it doesn't make much sense. You have to somehow prove that the child of a jinchuriki can have the same abilities as the jinchuriki, which is pretty much impossible to prove. My point just was that you should at least have considered it in your theory, since it is the largest anti-evidence against your theory.
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

Is this the guy who keeps saying So6p Defeated juubi?? LOL

Is this the retard that doesn't think the Sage of Six Paths defeated The Juubi even though it was stated in the manga? LOL
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

If people think that the SO6P is an Uzumaki, maybe they should study the way a familytree works.

Unless an Uzumaki traveled back in time and pulled a 'Doc Brown' with the Sage's kids, it immpossible for him to be an Uzumaki.

This
 

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We dont know he doesnt. But it was said that those who possess Rinnengan possess all 5. I believe Jiraya said it during the Pain v Jiraya fight, but I really dont feel like looking for it. I am mangaed out.
 

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Re: The SO6P couldn't be a Pure Uzumaki

This isn't Godzilla...


Then you didn't read this thread.

I get what you mean about the line of priests, + rep for that
Maybe his father was from a line of priests as his mother was from Uzumaki or othr way around? idk
 
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