Madara having so much trouble against Naruto.

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Plot no Jutsu. The answer is obvious. Why hasn't Madara captured Gyuuki and Kurama yet? Plot no Jutsu.
Let me ask you this. If Kishimoto were to actually have Madara capture Naruto and Bee then extract their bijuu, what would happen to his series?

It would end right? So, why would he do that then? Exactly, he wouldn't do that. We all know that in the end, Naruto is supposed to defeat Madara; and for that to happen, Madara cannot capture the last two bijuu. Therefore, it is Plot no jutsu, Plot Armor, whatever you wanna call it. I'm sure Madara and Obito together could capture Naruto and Bee if Kishimoto wanted them to. It is definitely within their power.
 
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Going all out in a fight does not mean you have to use all your justu . For example naruto vs sasuke at the valley of end , naruto could have summoned gamabunta n ended the battle within seconds but did not .so because naruto did not summon gamabunta do we say he held back against sasuke?
 

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Plot no Jutsu. The answer is obvious. Why hasn't Madara captured Gyuuki and Kurama yet? Plot no Jutsu.
Let me ask you this. If Kishimoto were to actually have Madara capture Naruto and Bee then extract their bijuu, what would happen to his series?

It would end right? So, why would he do that then? Exactly, he wouldn't do that. We all know that in the end, Naruto is supposed to defeat Madara; and for that to happen, Madara cannot capture the last two bijuu. Therefore, it is Plot no jutsu, Plot Armor, whatever you wanna call it. I'm sure Madara and Obito together could capture Naruto and Bee if Kishimoto wanted them to. It is definitely within their power.

really? You talk as if 9 and 8 tails are inferior. it has nothing to do with naruto been the one to end the war.you gave your own opinon now lemme ask you mine, what if kishi is limiting what naruto or bee could do so team work will come to play? Kishi did want it to be team work or naruto could do more than he has plot gave madara all the powers and plot gave naruto all his powers too kishi is limiting both madara and naruto's abilities not just madara's
 

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Perfect Susano'o is stronger than all tailed beast as stated by Madara.. here is manga evidence

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I know I sound stupid when I say this...but I believe once Madara goes "serious" and starts kicking Narutos ass that naruto will try to use BM and SM at the same time (If he's going to die anyway, why not try it?) then they all realize that since the 9 tails is "tamed/good" he is able to merge with the natural chakra.

Whats sage mode/bijuu mode turn into? a NEW sage of Six paths. It's possible when in SM/BM mode he can awaken and use the Rinnegan.

Sounds ilogical but would be epic cool. :)
 

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Madara is not an Edo Tensei anymore he just keeps the advantages
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As you can see Madara no longer posses the Edo Tensei Cracks
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really? You talk as if 9 and 8 tails are inferior. it has nothing to do with naruto been the one to end the war.you gave your own opinon now lemme ask you mine, what if kishi is limiting what naruto or bee could do so team work will come to play? Kishi did want it to be team work or naruto could do more than he has plot gave madara all the powers and plot gave naruto all his powers too kishi is limiting both madara and naruto's abilities not just madara's

So what are you saying?
Are you disagreeing with me when I say Naruto is meant to come out on top in this fight with Madara? I don't care who is stronger, although I personally think that is Madara. The only thing that really matters is where Kishimoto wants his story to go. No matter who we perceive to be stronger, Naruto is meant to defeat Madara. This cannot be denied. For that to happen, Madara cannot capture Naruto and Bee, because that would effectively ruin the plot of Kishimoto's manga, and bring it to an end. For that reason, Naruto and Bee have not been captured because of the plot. This cannot be denied. Therefore, it is plot armor keeping them alive.

If Kishimoto wanted to, he could have K11 defeat Madara and save the day although that is extremely far-fetched. But he wont. If he wanted to, he could easily have Madara defeat Naruto and Bee, and bring the Moon eye plan into fruition as it is definitely within Madara's power. But he wont because if he were to do that, Naruto wouldn't be the winner, and we all know how this is supposed to end.

Are you going to tell me all of that is falsified? Are you really going to deny what I have stated above? If so, then conversing with you is pointless.

Naruto and Bee are only still alive because Kishimoto wants it to be that way. Madara has the power to defeat them both, but he wont.


EDIT: Regarding what you said on teamwork, Bee has done virtually nothing to indicate effective teamwork. You're grasping for straws.
 
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What the people claiming Naruto can beat a Prime Rinnegan Madara just because of the latest chapters events need to understand is.

Madara was not fighting to kill, he was fighting to capture.

The latter is harder than the former.
 

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Naruto is supposed to be the fastest character, why is madara & obito able to keep up with his speed ? Is naruto also holding back?
 

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Perfect Susano'o is stronger than all tailed beast as stated by Madara.. here is manga evidence

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fail, madara never said that

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Madara has to capture Naruto not kill him.
You Naruto fans are getting way too jolly over the fact that he's lasting out against Madara in his troll mode.
 

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Guyz even though madara and naruto are still fight and none has a upper hand(madara can woop naruto ass) still give naruto a bit of praise dranging the fight to about 4 weeks now..... He is a 16 years old kid fighting a 1/2 century old man. Thas not easy
 

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People Madara said that they were persistent and that it would be smoother using the juubi's power. That does not in any way state that Naruto is stronger or on par, it just means that taking down Naruto would require more time and Madara probably doesnt have the patience himself to do it which is why using the Juubi's power would be much faster and less time consuming. Srsly guys, if you had to capture a blue belt martial artist, and you were a blue belt or just one belt ahead, wouldn't it make more sense to let a black belt handle it since it would be MUCH easier and time consuming. Fools ya fool!
 

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No one cares that Naruto is the main character at this rate. Madara has rinnegan, ems, mokuton and more, it's laughable to think that Naruto has a chance to win in a real fight without any sort of plot.
 

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tbb>sasuke's susano
naruto is immune to genjutsu
speed>amaerasu
wind>lightning

sasuke has no counters for naruto
we seen sasuke fight kabuto...bm naruto>sasuke

kyuubi>>>5 bijuu

bm mode is kyuubi's power

where is the proof of all you said? you have none, until you can show me some a link where naruto kicks sasukes ass their evenly matched. More like naruto has no counters for sasuke.
narutos tbb doesnt beat sasukes susanoo sorry to break it to ya
and kyubi = 1 bijuu
even the bijuu himself said all bijuu's are equal
 

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No one cares that Naruto is the main character at this rate. Madara has rinnegan, ems, mokuton and more, it's laughable to think that Naruto has a chance to win in a real fight without any sort of plot.

Every manga, anime or any form of fiction does this. The hero goes up against a villian who is basically invincible, and when all hope is lost pulls off a miracle and saves the day.

Its called the climax. This is no different than any other story's climax. So it isn't laughable its just a normal climax.
 
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