Edo Tensai CANT be used 1V1 (100% Proof)

[Son of God]

THATS THE PROBLEM

where will kabuto find his sacrifices if the only people on the field is him and his opponent????

wow.

 

[quick123]

prep time is kabuto needing time to gather the 30+ sacrifices before the fight

this is a different prep time from madara waking up in the morning and simply grab his fan

if kabuto gets into a fight he NEEDS to have HUMAN SACRIFICES, and that is unfair becase it is 31v1

if you understand this^ THAT IS ALL THIS THREAD IS, nothing more, nothing less

Do you not read the Manga? The sacrifices are only needed ONCE then you can summon the Edos whenever you want. In addition to that have you not seen Oro's hideout that were filled with prisoners? I'm sure if Kabuto needed to he could grab a live body faster than Madara can grab his fan.

I do agree with you that Edo Tensei is unfair though but just deal with it. Kabuto before the war started could have destroyed most of the Narutoverse. If Kabuto didn't make the mistake of summoning Itachi he would be owning the war right now.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Do you not read the Manga? The sacrifices are only needed ONCE then you can summon the Edos whenever you want. In addition to that have you not seen Oro's hideout that were filled with prisoners? I'm sure if Kabuto needed to he could grab a live body faster than Madara can grab his fan.

I do agree with you that Edo Tensei is unfair though but just deal with it. Kabuto before the war started could have destroyed most of the Narutoverse. If Kabuto didn't make the mistake of summoning Itachi he would be owning the war right now.

@bold

THAT IS WHY I SAID NO PREP

PREP TIME is REQUIRED to use edo tensai

or a partner

 

[nibilbhai]

right.

 

[~Sovereign~]

wow.

??

 

[quick123]

@bold

THAT IS WHY I SAID NO PREP

PREP TIME is REQUIRED to use edo tensai

PREP TIME is required for any ninja. For a ninja to use summoning Jutsu they need to make a contract with the thing they are summoning. PREP TIME is getting your weapons ready and sharpened before you go into Battle. PREP TIME could be training a technique to make sure your prefect at it. What ninja doesn't use PREP TIME? Give me any ninja. Ten-Ten using PREP TIME to summon her weapons on the field. Itachi uses PREP TIME to gather Kunai and hide it in his cloak. ./end thread .. please for your sake.

 

[quick123]

Sasori using PREP TIME to make his human or other puppets. Is that not a 1v1? Explain. I dare you.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Sasori using PREP TIME to make his human or other puppets. Is that not a 1v1? Explain. I dare you.

NO its a 1v1 BECAUSE THE PUPPETS ARE NOT HUMAN

sasori can simply summon the puppets to the field, IT TAKES NO SACRIFICE

 

[~Sovereign~]

PREP TIME is required for any ninja. For a ninja to use summoning Jutsu they need to make a contract with the thing they are summoning. PREP TIME is getting your weapons ready and sharpened before you go into Battle. PREP TIME could be training a technique to make sure your prefect at it. What ninja doesn't use PREP TIME? Give me any ninja. Ten-Ten using PREP TIME to summon her weapons on the field. Itachi uses PREP TIME to gather Kunai and hide it in his cloak. ./end thread .. please for your sake.

i already countered this

prep time isnt what your saying it is, what your explaining is called SETTING UP

prep time is time to prepare yourself minutes or hours (or longer) before an event

like with sports, people prepare themselves by getting the practice that they NEED

 

[quick123]

NO its a 1v1 BECAUSE THE PUPPETS ARE NOT HUMAN

sasori can simply summon the puppets to the field, IT TAKES NO SACRIFICE

Re-read (don't just look at the pictures) the Sasori fight in the manga. One of his puppets weren't human before? I understand what you're saying dude and where you're coming from but NO just no you're wrong man. Edo Tensei is just a tool. A very overpowered tool.
You'd make a little more sense if you were using Nagato and his 6Paths of Pain isn't a 1v1 because if you pull out Nagato and throw him into an Arena it's possible that he can't summon his Pains (although we saw Animal Path summon them, which Nagato was controlling Animal Path so it's debatable that he can do it.) but if your throw Kabuto into an Arena (Before the war started) he can summon the Edos no problem.

Edo Tensei summons aren't human either.. I should just let you argue with yourself.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Re-read (don't just look at the pictures) the Sasori fight in the manga. One of his puppets weren't human before? I understand what you're saying dude and where you're coming from but NO just no you're wrong man. Edo Tensei is just a tool. A very overpowered tool.
You'd make a little more sense if you were using Nagato and his 6Paths of Pain isn't a 1v1 because if you pull out Nagato and throw him into an Arena it's possible that he can't summon his Pains (although we saw Animal Path summon them, which Nagato was controlling Animal Path so it's debatable that he can do it.) but if your throw Kabuto into an Arena (Before the war started) he can summon the Edos no problem.

Edo Tensei summons aren't human either.. I should just let you argue with yourself.

you missed the point

the point ISNT that kabuto is using humans

THE POINT IS THAT HE NEEDS A HUMAN SACRIFICE TO PUT THE DNA INSIDE THE BODY THEN SUMMON THE HUMAN EDOS TO THE FIELD

AND KABUTO HAS NO SACRIFICES TO USE

do you understand this?

 

[quick123]

i already countered this

prep time isnt what your saying it is, what your explaining is called SETTING UP

prep time is time to prepare yourself minutes or hours (or longer) before an event

like with sports, people prepare themselves by getting the practice that they NEED

PREP TIME isn't the same as SETTING UP? Are you joking? Edo Tensei isn't a 3 day ritual like Sealing the tailed beast in the Gedo Statue, Edo Tensei takes seconds to prepare all you need is ONE live body that you could have gotten lets say 7 MONTHs ago and
you can use the summon right now in seconds. summoning a Edo is actually quicker than SETTING UP because you once you do it you don't need to do it again.

 

[quick123]

you missed the point

the point ISNT that kabuto is using humans

THE POINT IS THAT YOU NEED A HUMAN SACRIFICE TO SUMMON THE HUMAN EDOS TO THE FIELD

AND KABUTO HAS NO SACRIFICES TO USE

do you understand this?

You don't understand that HE ALREADY DID THE SACRIFICES and you're silly if you think the Madara and Itachi he summoned are human. I got news for you kid. Once you die you're no longer human. They are zombies. If you know what a Necromancer is then it's the same deal he's not bringing them back to life. He controls them that have no free-will so they aren't human. The only freedom that he ALLOWED the Edo's to have is speech. Which he used to manipulate the allied nations to use their emotions against them. Anything else?

 

[~Sovereign~]

PREP TIME isn't the same as SETTING UP? Are you joking? Edo Tensei isn't a 3 day ritual like Sealing the tailed beast in the Gedo Statue, Edo Tensei takes seconds to prepare all you need is ONE live body that you could have gotten lets say 7 MONTHs ago and
you can use the summon right now in seconds. summoning a Edo is actually quicker than SETTING UP because you once you do it you don't need to do it again.

you think setting up is the same as prep time?????

if me and you were on then the team and i told you we need to PREPARE for the basketball game...this means practice

if i told you "need to SET UP for basketball game"....this means putting thing where it needs to be...this is a difference meaning than ^^^^^
@bold

you are not understanding the thread

THIS IS NO PREP TIME IN A 1v1, it doesnt matter if prep time only times second, no prep=no prep

and kabuto will need prep to use edo tensai OR a partner (which is why i put 1v1)

 

[~Sovereign~]

You don't understand that HE ALREADY DID THE SACRIFICES and you're silly if you think the Madara and Itachi he summoned are human. I got news for you kid. Once you die you're no longer human. They are zombies. If you know what a Necromancer is then it's the same deal he's not bringing them back to life. He controls them that have no free-will so they aren't human. The only freedom that he ALLOWED the Edo's to have is speech. Which he used to manipulate the allied nations to use their emotions against them. Anything else?

ONLY IN THE MANGA!

kabuto doesnt have prep time in a 1v1

the manga has nothing to do with a simple 1v1

 

[quick123]

ONLY IN THE MANGA!

kabuto doesnt have prep time in a 1v1

the manga has nothing to do with a simple 1v1

Kabuto only exists in the Manga why won't we use the only Kabuto we know? What Kabuto are we talking about in terms of time? The manga has everything to do with a 1v1.. What Kabuto are you talking about tell me.

And back to the basketball thing, you Preprare by practicing and by getting ready for what you're about to do. You can't prepare without getting ready and you cannot get ready without preparing. You're saying that 3+5=8 isn't the same as 5+3=8. Which is irrational.

 

[nNoma]

The whole problem with this discussion isn't in the preparation of edo tensei itself, it's the fact that shinobi of Orochimaru and Kabuto's level would not go anywhere unprepared. They have proven to be extremely safe and deceptive. so much so that not even Jiraiya was able to discover there whereabouts, even though he searched for years.

In addition, Orochimaru and Kabuto performed thousands and thousands of experiments on all kinds of people, some would die others would become prisoners that would be used for testing later on. So you see, they have in there disposal an abundance of potential human sacrifices to perform edo tensei with.

On top of all of this, I'll bring up the point again of Orochimaru and Kabuto's caliber as shinobi. They aren't going to go into a fight blind, they always have a plan, and so if they know edo tensei will be required in order to defeat an opponent(I.E. Orochimaru preparing edo tensei ahead of time to defeat Hiruzen) then they will take the time to prepare.

I also don't believe that it would be overly difficult for either of them to gather human sacrifices to begin wtih. Take for example when Kabuto was explaining how edo tensei worked to Obito, it took a mere few minutes to get a human sacrifice and set up the ritual.

 

[Simple Math]

do you even know what you're saying? if he had them preparede in the manga, then he have them preparede in the fight!!

by your logic "Naruto will fight Naked if he doesnt prepare to get his clothes"

 

[~Sovereign~]

Kabuto only exists in the Manga why won't we use the only Kabuto we know? What Kabuto are we talking about in terms of time? The manga has everything to do with a 1v1.. What Kabuto are you talking about tell me.

And back to the basketball thing, you Preprare by practicing and by getting ready for what you're about to do. You can't prepare without getting ready and you cannot get ready without preparing. You're saying that 3+5=8 isn't the same as 5+3=8. Which is irrational.

were talking about manga kabuto BUT WITHOUT all the preparation he had in the manga...kabuto simply keeps his abilities NOT HIS PREP TIME FROM THE MANGA

i use set up/prepare in the same kind of statement and in the same spot.....and came up with different meanings from the statements

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF PREP TIME FROM THE MANGA

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if i made a konan VS ??? thread....WILL KONAN HAVE THIS JUTSU??????????? NOOOO WHY? BECAUSE IT REQUIRES PREP TIME

she has to have prep time to prepare all 600 billion explosive tags, THEN she can use this jutsu...same rules apply to kabuto

The whole problem with this discussion isn't in the preparation of edo tensei itself, it's the fact that shinobi of Orochimaru and Kabuto's level would not go anywhere unprepared. They have proven to be extremely safe and deceptive. so much so that not even Jiraiya was able to discover there whereabouts, even though he searched for years.

In addition, Orochimaru and Kabuto performed thousands and thousands of experiments on all kinds of people, some would die others would become prisoners that would be used for testing later on. So you see, they have in there disposal an abundance of potential human sacrifices to perform edo tensei with.

On top of all of this, I'll bring up the point again of Orochimaru and Kabuto's caliber as shinobi. They aren't going to go into a fight blind, they always have a plan, and so if they know edo tensei will be required in order to defeat an opponent(I.E. Orochimaru preparing edo tensei ahead of time to defeat Hiruzen) then they will take the time to prepare.

I also don't believe that it would be overly difficult for either of them to gather human sacrifices to begin wtih. Take for example when Kabuto was explaining how edo tensei worked to Obito, it took a mere few minutes to get a human sacrifice and set up the ritual.

it doesnt matter about HOW kabuto/oro fights...THERE IS NO PREP TIME

kabuto isnt walking around with 30+ human sacrifices in his sleeve

 

[~Sovereign~]

do you even know what you're saying? if he had them preparede in the manga, then he have them preparede in the fight!!

by your logic "Naruto will fight Naked if he doesnt prepare to get his clothes"

you're making no sense

kabuto was prepared in the manga because he had prep time

naruto is dressed all times, unless taking a shower...stop being stupid