Second hokage fans STOP!

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lets say he is a top one at inventing techniques..

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

did gou just say Ginkaku and Kinkaku were weaker than choza and omoi?

Wow i lost faith in humanity.

They were descendents of the So6p and had the power to turn into mini kyuubi's with up to 6 tails.

If naruto can keep up with the deva path with 6 tails imagine two ninja with full control with 18-20 other ninja.

desendents of so6p ?? really wtf !! they just stole his tools n were eaten by 9 tails

 

[BlacLord™]

Basically, Tobirama is just featless fodder.

Auto facepalm just went into overdrive..

 

[The Ultimate Super Sage]

First off kisame summoned an enough water to seperate them from any visible land and this was in a desert with only 30% of his chakra
He never used bringer of darkness in the manga so does not matter to me and even if he had bringer of darkness tech kisame would just combine with sword and be able to sense his position.

the dessert was a superflat that had uneven land so that a skilled water style user can fill it up easy

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

ok even if he was the best suiton user ... can he beat any other hokage ... ok can he beat any kage shown upto now

 

[spade3dg]

First off kisame summoned an enough water to seperate them from any visible land and this was in a desert with only 30% of his chakra
He never used bringer of darkness in the manga so does not matter to me and even if he had bringer of darkness tech kisame would just combine with sword and be able to sense his position.

I also forgot to mention he trained probably 6 of the leafs strongest ninja in there generation.

Hiruzen and his team and danzo and his. Also he went against 20 ninja with the intent to stall so his other comrades could escape. Remember him and the second raikage were left on the verge of death right before that.

If he had full chakra he would no problem have defeated those 20 ninja.

 

[OnPoint]

Are you actually comparing Kisame to Tobirama. Foolishness.

His suiton is not only the most powerful in the series but he could perform it with one hand seal and without preexisting water.

Kisame's greatest water techs came from the ocean he was near. Remember he was on AN ISLAND.

Tobirama could do that tech in the middle of a desert.

Not to mention his bringer of darkness tech that he shared with his brother. Immediate advantage rright there.

And he obviously had to be one of the strongest ninja of his time. Because when Hashirama died they didnt chose anybody else to be Hokage. They chose him.

Tobirama never created water from thin air, only from his mouth [

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] when he used a B-rank jutsu. Guess what? Kisame replicated the exact same feat but on a much larger scale [

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]. Even Darui used Tobirama's Suiton technique [

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]. Kisame's feats are a league above Nidaime Hokage's. You even mention the Bringer-of-Darkness technique when only Hashirama has canonically shown the genjutsu in the manga. The 2nd obviously had the leadership qualities which allowed him to become Hokage [

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]. Being Hokage doesn't automatically make you the strongest in the village. Unless you're suggesting that Tsunade was chosen as Hokage simply because she was the strongest in Konoha.

It's these baseless thoughts which are the reason a thread like this was created in the first place.

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

I also forgot to mention he trained probably 6 of the leafs strongest ninja in there generation.

Hiruzen and his team and danzo and his. Also he went against 20 ninja with the intent to stall so his other comrades could escape. Remember him and the second raikage were left on the verge of death right before that.

If he had full chakra he would no problem have defeated those 20 ninja.

he fought with full chakara against 20 nins . did u forget 3rd raikage beating 10000 nins

 

[realobito1]

did gou just say Ginkaku and Kinkaku were weaker than choza and omoi?

Wow i lost faith in humanity.

They were descendents of the So6p and had the power to turn into mini kyuubi's with up to 6 tails.

If naruto can keep up with the deva path with 6 tails imagine two ninja with full control with 18-20 other ninja.

You like so many others are combining two diff fights. When he fought gin and kin he was with the second raikage and when he wought the 20 jonin he died(never mentioned that gin and kin were among those jonin and genarally just does not makes sense considering these ninja betrayed there village when they attcked the second hokage and raikage). I agree however that this person is underestimating the gold and silver brothers

 

[spade3dg]

desendents of so6p ?? really wtf !! they just stole his tools n were eaten by 9 tails

It was said they were descendents. Thats how they survived getting eating by Kurama and eating his body meat.

When the kumo. ninja tried to do the same with the Hachibi he died.

Not to mention they had monster chakra levels to be able to use the sages tools and not even be slowed down by chakra drains.

 

[The Ultimate Super Sage]

did gou just say Ginkaku and Kinkaku were weaker than choza and omoi?

Wow i lost faith in humanity.

They were descendents of the So6p and had the power to turn into mini kyuubi's with up to 6 tails.

If naruto can keep up with the deva path with 6 tails imagine two ninja with full control with 18-20 other ninja.

my bad not omoi the black thunder prodigy from the hidden cloud

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

It was said they were descendents. Thats how they survived getting eating by Kurama and eating his body meat.

When the kumo. ninja tried to do the same with the Hachibi he died.

Not to mention they had monster chakra levels to be able to use the sages tools and not even be slowed down by chakra drains.

sorry i never show that can u please tell me the manga chapter where it is said

 

[realobito1]

I also forgot to mention he trained probably 6 of the leafs strongest ninja in there generation.

Hiruzen and his team and danzo and his. Also he went against 20 ninja with the intent to stall so his other comrades could escape. Remember him and the second raikage were left on the verge of death right before that.

If he had full chakra he would no problem have defeated those 20 ninja.

what the hell are you talking about. Who the hell said he fought the gin and kin right before that. He was left on the verge of death meaning he was not going anywhere

 

[The Ultimate Super Sage]

sorry i never show that can u please tell me the manga chapter where it is said

it was said that only descendants could use these weapons meaning that they were

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

it was said that only descendants could use these weapons meaning that they were

darui uses them without any ill affects

 

[The Ultimate Super Sage]

darui uses them without any ill affects

you're forgetting that he had massive decreases in his chakara reserves

 

[spade3dg]

he fought with full chakara against 20 nins . did u forget 3rd raikage beating 10000 nins

Go read the chapter again. You can see he's not at full chakra. You can see they just left Kumo and are about to get ambushed by the Kinkaku force.

And im not overestimating Tobirama. His feats have been contestedby present ninja. But those ninja are extraordinary in their own rights.
So comparing him to a monster like Kisame nicknamed the "tailess taild beast" is basically calling him very powerful.

 

[Enton]

i agree, tobirama is so overrated. he got beaten to the brink of death by the same people kishi made darui fight. what does that say about how kishi views him?

 

[Ghost of Uchiha]

Go read the chapter again. You can see he's not at full chakra. You can see they just left Kumo and are about to get ambushed by the Kinkaku force.

And im not overestimating Tobirama. His feats have been contestedby present ninja. But those ninja are extraordinary in their own rights.
So comparing him to a monster like Kisame nicknamed the "tailess taild beast" is basically calling him very powerful.

please tell me any kage shown till now that he can beat

 

[yellowxflash]

He was a senju, most likely trained with his bro which is worth something alone, to top it off he has amongst the strongest jutsus in naruto. To look at him he is very powerful, but shadowed by his brother and lack of airtime and feats its a shame really cuz he looks the best in naruto after minato