Nagato's perspective was noble before his immense emotional suffering, and his goals were, in purpose at least, noble even after that. Unlike Orochimaru and Sasuke, for instance.
Nagato's perspective of the ninja world came Jman's view of peace and the means obtaining it. Jman have not have been fully responsible for the path Nagato followed, but this overall idea was his doing.
Any goal can be corrupted if the means chosen are foul enough, and Jiraiya certainly had nothing to do with Nagato's choice there.
he had nothing to do with his choice, but he guided to through the possibilities of this outcome. Once something is taught to you in a manner that you've never considered before, especially regarding the nature of other individuals its changes your entire perspective of the world. Jman changed Nagato's perspective of the world, in telling him the peace is whats need in the shinobi world and how he would one day be the creater of this destined peace. Nagato than had to figure his role in this situation.
Jiraiya essentially taught him that peace is a valuable, THE most valuable, thing in all the world, which more than made sense according to Nagato's background. It was Yahiko who made him consider the possibility of a SINGLE person being the source of said peace, I don't recall Jiraiya ever saying anything about HIM being the Destined Child before their Final Battle. Jiraiya certainly never mentioned it to Naruto (though he'd certainly been burned enough times at that point) and he seems the type to let Nagato decide his own destiny.
Nagato was the destined child before Naruto to change the tide of the hateful, Jman noted this himself. The craving of peace itself being the ultimate need of the shinobi world is what was embedded in his head, no matter how it was portrayed originally. Shinobi know there is no such thing as ultimate peace, it's just not their way, but Jman thought differently and put this into the mind of Nagato and the other two. He influenced all three, no matter if Yahiko influenced his path, they all were taught by Jman on how to perceive the ninja world.
But Nagato's chosen "solution" for the Shinobi World AND how he came to it (as there's no real evidence Jiraiya ever TOLD him that he believed Nagato was the savior) had no direct connection to Jiraiya and may even have been created (and definitely occured) after Jiraiya thought him dead.
They all weren't trying to achieve peace, these teachers just simply failed at meeting these students needs for some particular reason, which caused them all to retaliate in killing them and anyone close to them. Ultimately they failed to have an emotional connection with their students, these emotions would all be set in check with moons plan, fake or not.the thing with the eye moon plan is, its fake (not real) an illusion so its not right man. better die trying to achieve TRUE peace than living in a false fake world (being a fool), the problem in this story is the existence of shinobi themselves (one dude can demolish an army .... and they wana achieve peace .... :sy
I can't say it's the right way, but it's the only way. There aren't many Naruto's running around being able to talk one out of their issues, many you can't do such a thing with. There anger comes from the lack of support they felt from their teachers who weren't there for them.The way I see it you can't blame the teachers. I mean, their students grew up an d life and circumstances changed them. The teachers tried their best but to no avail.
As for the peace thing. You have to ask yourself, what kind of peace is Obito trying to achieve? Is it as noble as you believe? Also, I don't agree with the way they want to achieve this peace. With the war countless lives are being lost.
Cool thread by the way
actually how these students turned out had nothing to do with the teachers (the teachers didn't fail at anything) putting sasuke aside, the students are the ones who grew up (now they are responsible and away from their sensei's) and lost their ways in bad circumstances like in nagato's case or maybe the students were simply evil like in oro's case. the eye moon plan is a DREAM and dreams are not real, would you choose to live the rest of your life a fool ?? but i get you point ....
The fact is they were all emotionally scarred at one point and they're teachers were no where to be found, the one person that they should have been able to depend on and never were they looked for after the issue. Sasuke being taken, Kakashi didn't go chasing after him. Tobi being "crush" Minato never went lookin for the body nor was he there when Kakashi and Rin was surrounded. Jman may seem more reasonable as he life the kids to defend themselves after a certain age, but let rumors of them dying be all he needed to hear. The third he at least cared, but it wasnt enough to fill the void within Orochimaru.
