Were Haku, Itachi, and Nagato really evil?

asparticus

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Well, were they?

Here's my take on this.

HAKU: I don't think he (was about to say she lol) was necessarily evil.
-He never killed anybody, but only injured them so they wouldn't move. (Remember Sasuke?) Even Zabuza said Haku always had a soft spot.
-He protected Zabuza from Kakashi's Chidori, taking his life instead.
-He didn't want to kill Naruto after Naruto's rampage seeing Sasuke fall.

He followed Zabuza because Zabuza saved Haku from death, and considers Zabuza "precious".
ITACHI: Now, I think he's both good and evil.
Good:
-Wanted what was best for his village
-Protected Sasuke at all cost (didn't kill him during the massacre, gave Sasuke his powers, and tried to kill Tobi(which he knew would have a bad influence over Sasuke)).
-He belived in Naruto to save Sasuke
-He didn't kill Kabuto and released the Edo Tensei
-Etc.
Bad:
-During Part one during the Tsunade retrieval arc, he was still after Naruto, with the intent to make Naruto half dead so he can take Kurama.
-Let's not mention that he was part in taking other jinchurikis captive (well, he did sorta kill them because they'd die once the juubi gets taken out)
-Didn't tell the truth to Sasuke. Like Itachi said so himself, if Itachi told Sasuke the truth beforehand, Sasuke might not have become a total jerk.

NAGATO:
Good:
-He just wants world peace
-He wants what's good for everyone-moon's eye plan
-If he was totally evil, would he have listened to Naruto's take on world peace and change his motives?
Bad:
-Wanted world peace, with the intention to kill: Kill the jinchurikis and kill anyone who got in the way( I.E konoha village)

Overall, I think Haku was the only one who didn't submit to being evil

What do you guys think?
 

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Haku, not evil more misguided by his. . .love?

Itachi, definitely not evil.

Nagato, not evil either. . .but still kind of misguided. Losing everything tends to make people insane, and his whole "We are Pain. We are God" has a very narcissist attitude which makes everything he says sort of insane.
 

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None were evil. Haku and Nagato were just misguided.
 

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yeh none were evil, these 3 characters are like my favourite to haha :D
 

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If they have a change of heart then no they wer not evil..
 

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none had evil intentions but there actions where evil
 

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If they have a change of heart then no they wer not evil..

So is Zabuza considered evil? just before his death he realized what he did in life.


so all the things he did prior to Naruto's persuasion, you wouldn't call him evil?
 

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Itachi no, but his methods were extreme, giving Sasuke hatred etc, Nagato & Haku wernt bad either just misguided, Madara and Ororchimaru are really the only evil characters i can think of.
 

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haku wasnt evil, at all,
itachi was evil but for the sake of konoha(which coukld technically call him good.....essentially itachi wasnt good or evil he was loyal, loyal to konoha

nagato was not evil but manipulated, and misguided in his thought...he essentially gave up on the good in people
 

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No no one's evel here
1.haku never recognized betn good or evil,he only followed zabuza coz zabuza was only 1 who cud understand him.instead other people went evil to him.
2.itachi was only 1 who followed the life and death commands just to insure the safe of konoha.
3.nagato in pain of death of his best frn he went into vengeance,he chose to bring peace with power not wid love.he 4got the teachins of jiraiya-sensei.he was bit a evil who beleived who ever come to him to convince him. Lol 1st obito's thn naruto's.
 

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Honestly none of them are evil they made a few mistakes and did a few bad things but who doesn't xD
 

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So is Zabuza considered evil? just before his death he realized what he did in life.


so all the things he did prior to Naruto's persuasion, you wouldn't call him evil?

Nope was not evil really just had to find away to get paid becuz he left his village..orochimaru is evil madara is evil kisame is evil hidan&kakuza were evil..also the sound ninja 5&orbito
 
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They were not. I guess, Itachi was a bit.... too easy to be misslead (in my opinion, probably many don't agree with me).

They were good guys, having no nice life.
 
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