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Sure, Why not.
Everybody has their own opinion. Would you mind sharing your opinion on my other thread "Who was the best lightning release (raiton) user?". You're good at expressing yourself
Sure, Why not.
Is everyone in NB a lawyer? Show facts show proof... Thats all I hear coming from yall... You do know Naruto is not real right? Now on to the topic. Judging part 2 anime vs Part 1 never works out. the power scale of attacks has changed, now for the mere fact that Tobirama has been hyped as the best suiton user, he deserves the title. On top of that Tobirama was a KAGE who based his moves on Water and S/T techniques. Ya'll could argue and say Kisame was Kage Level but he was NOT A KAGE(FACTS).
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As you can see KISAME did not turn a FOREST(desert) in to water. It was a jutsu in which wherever he went the water would follow him as well. So as long as he swam after his opponents they could never get out the Sphere. Which concludes it was not that powerful just annoying.
Kisame flooded a massive area that was completly void of water. It is hard to say we haven't seen much of Tobimara but from what we have seen it was pretty darn good.
If Kisame ever trapped Tobirama in this Tobirama would just have to use his eternal darkness jutsu then find his way out this gigantic water drop.Is everyone in NB a lawyer? Show facts show proof... Thats all I hear coming from yall... You do know Naruto is not real right? Now on to the topic. Judging part 2 anime vs Part 1 never works out. the power scale of attacks has changed, now for the mere fact that Tobirama has been hyped as the best suiton user, he deserves the title. On top of that Tobirama was a KAGE who based his moves on Water and S/T techniques. Ya'll could argue and say Kisame was Kage Level but he was NOT A KAGE(FACTS).
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Now onto my biggest topic KISAME
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As you can see KISAME did not turn a FOREST(desert) in to water. It was a jutsu in which wherever he went the water would follow him as well. So as long as he swam after his opponents they could never get out the Sphere. Which concludes it was not that powerful just annoying.
Tobirama made a water barrier and a dragon missile in an area with no water, Kisame made an ocean in a desert deep enough to damn near submerge mountains, and he was only at 70%.
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Btw they both made hand seals, Tobirama didn't just create those jutsus from nothing. Notice the water came out of his mouth just like Kisame. Whether or not he had large scale jutsus on par with Kisame we'll never know, but if we go by manga alone Kisame beasts on him.
Tobirama I'm 100% sure!
Tobirama is the Second Hokage and related to the Senju bloodline.
Tobirama earned this title because he can use extremely large scale water jutsus without even needing water around him.
Tobirama could also turn the air around him into water.
Kisame on the other hand is good but not on the level of Tobirama.
Kisame's main strength is his Samehada. The reason why Kisame can use any type of water jutsus including those large scale water jutsus It's because of the chakra that he steals from his enemy thus making his chakra bigger/stronger so he will never ran out but if you remove Samehada from him he will just be a normal water jutsu user with sharks, skilled with swords and limited chakra.
Tobirama made a water barrier and a dragon missile in an area with no water, Kisame made an ocean in a desert deep enough to damn near submerge mountains, and he was only at 70%.
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Btw they both made hand seals, Tobirama didn't just create those jutsus from nothing. Notice the water came out of his mouth just like Kisame. Whether or not he had large scale jutsus on par with Kisame we'll never know, but if we go by manga alone Kisame beasts on him.
Weakened Edo Tobirama managed to nullify the Sandaime Hokage's katon jutsu whereas Kisame failed to kill fodder like Tenten even when she was carrying something on her back. This is all that those pictures are saying.
Edo tobirama was not weakend, I don't know where you got that from, Kabuto stated it was a perfected version of edo Tensei, Both Hashirama and Tobirama were not weaker than they were in life.
You can try to Downplay Kisame all you want, The fact of the matter is, By feats he can match tobirama's hype.
If Kabuto could improve upon Orochimaru's Edo Tensei, then it was not perfected at all. Edo Madara admitted that Hashirama would be more of a match to him than the 5 Kage were. If Hashirama's not on the same level as he was in life, then Tobirama obviously wasn't either.
On another note, you see the nonsense on my Raiton post? I'm about to make a Futon post.
Great argument bro, I bet you're the smartest kid on the short bus aren't you?Weakened Edo Tobirama managed to nullify the Sandaime Hokage's katon jutsu whereas Kisame failed to kill fodder like Tenten even when she was carrying something on her back. This is all that those pictures are saying.
According to this Pain only took 30 percent.Kisame was only 30% of his max chakra, Not 70%
Great argument bro, I bet you're the smartest kid on the short bus aren't you?