Who was the best water release (suiton) user?

[USSJ Future Trunks]

If he's hashirama's brother then he must be amazing

bullshit logic lol. in that case kankuro is kage level because his brother is

 

[NagazuDead]

Tobirama... hokage rank and best

 

[ROSH2]

I can't choose Kisame or Tobirama

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Tobirama is the best suiton user because he can use a water technique that requires alot of handseals (Water Dragon) with just one hand sign.Also he can use any suiton jutsu without a water source.

 

[Micho22]

Dont forget mei her suiton was powerful enough to counter the greatest katon user madara
Mei has also strong suiton jutsus

 

[Strict]

I would say Tobirama. Though he didn't show any remarkable feats, a fodder Anbu praised Tobiramas ability to create water without a source - being a "miracle" in the old series but an expected performance by any Suiton user in Shippuuden.

Damn, that rumor about Tobiramas impressive Suiton is nothing but a huge misconception. The fodder Anbu praised Tobirama to be a good Suiton user 'cause he's able to create water without a source.

That was the Jutsu of Tobirama, the Anbu referred to:

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lmao, the Anbu is flashed from the idea, that Tobirama used such a "high level" of Suiton in a place where there is no water. That feat however is something every Suiton user can demonstrate at the current story...
Whether feats or hype, Tobirama is nowhere near the best Suiton user.

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[Micho22]

Mei also was able to create huge waters without a water source against madaras powerful katon jutsu

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[the last shinobi]

Kisame by feats.

Tobirama by hype



Did you forget when kisame flooded a desert against Gai and his team?

I agree with everything this guy said

 

[the last shinobi]

Obito

Yes. To get WOOD Release you must have water release as well. Don't spew that BUT BUT DNA. No. He used Earth Release before. He can use Water Release as well. His Suiton would be more powerful than Tobirama due to the enhanced body and such.

very good point sir

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Tobirama... hokage rank and best

in what way?

Tobirama is the best suiton user because he can use a water technique that requires alot of handseals (Water Dragon) with just one hand sign.Also he can use any suiton jutsu without a water source.

mei did the same thing. EXACTLY the same thing. and you ignored that for absolutely no reason except your a fanboy. using suiton without a water source is expected of elite jounins and kages

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

in what way?
mei did the same thing. EXACTLY the same thing. and you ignored that for absolutely no reason except your a fanboy. using suiton without a water source is expected of elite jounins and kages

Me a Tobirama fanboy?Far from it Mei is also a good suiton user and so is Kisame.

 

[Omnipotent]

Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.

 

[VangBro95]

Until shown how good Tobirama is, then I'm gonna say Kisame.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon e

who you forget, was also not full power

and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him

the anbu only said that when enma and mokuton were released. the quote still makes sense if it was only talking about the sannin, hiruzen and shodai.

I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton.

hashirama did the best he could while inside the sound 4 barrier, and still was casually stomping hiruzens every effort

if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

lol and id lvoe to see him go from the tiny ass water dragon countered by a doton wall to the likes of what kisame used on bee

 

[tracytracy22]

Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.

Which is exactly what Mei did and to a much larger scale. Tobirama may have been weakened but look at the size of madara's katon and compare that to hiruzens. For me that outways the fact that he was weakened. For me, by feats, Mei > Tobirama. But thats just me.

 

[Strict]

Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.

The difference is that the Mokuton can be used from a small tendril growing from the ground up to a forest that covers a landscape. Not even Kisame, who truly has Biju level Chakra, has achieved something even comparable to it. Their power was perhaps watered down but what does it say about the scale of their power? In the area they were, Hashirama also managed to cover it completely, sadly the Oto Quartet limited the space to act. Tobirama was an Edo with limitless Chakra and countered a Katon technique of an old Hiruzen that had anything but a large scale. In fact Tobirama didn't show impressive skills with Suiton, and the Anbus statement was just hyperbole. The scale of Kisames Suiton is not only formidable, it has special properties like absorbing Chakra, in order to obtain more power.

Tobiramas Suiton technique vs. Kisames Suiton technique of the same scale -> Kisames Suiton absorbs the power of Tobiramas Suiton and grows in strength by the scale of Tobiramas attack.

 

[Anupachianimausaji]

Creating water? Dude it would take a nuclear reaction to do that, let's say condensing water in the air, even that is a feat so Tobirama