CurseSealofEarth
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A genjustu might be able to do the trick then? It's not like Obito is impervious to them.
obito is stronger than madara
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Plunge into darkness
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a 14 year old obito has been sure to mster moves of that scale and power, as for your rinnegan panels, i agree that madara has more mastery over it but that doesnt change that madara cannot beat obito. and i didnt see your last two links they came up blank
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sharingan users have an easier time of escaping genjustu. not impossible, but not likely either
Real talk, Madara can nullify the threat of getting warped by using Shinra Tensei. However, I believe Obito has the perfect defense which, in plot free battle, is unbeatable. 5 minute (at a time) Kamui intangibility - Shinra Tensei during the cool down period - intangibility activated once again. He's also got Gedō Mazō w/7 Bijuu & 6 Edo Jinchūrikis to fight against Madara's boss techs and the Perfect Susano'o. Call it a stalemate if you like.
well madara taught obito all the moves he knew.
And obito have a S/T which is better than Susano,amaterasu and tsukiyomi combined (IMO ) .
i think obito > madara, madara have no counter for kamui but there are numerous way on how obito can kamui madara.
obito > madara IMO
And obito have a S/T which is better than Susano,amaterasu and tsukiyomi combined (IMO ) .
i think obito > madara, madara have no counter for kamui but there are numerous way on how obito can kamui madara.
obito > madara IMO
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Who says he can even do wood style on that scale anymore without spiral zetsu? Just because you can't hit something(obito) doesn't mean he can't be beaten.
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If all of these people found a way around his technique you think madara can't?
And mangareader does not work for everyone.
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my point exactly, obito is a character designed to be unable to hit, unless you possess the same s/t tech. added to the fact that their move pool only has 3 or 4 differences and you get an extremely close fight, that obito proves hes stronger in.
CurseSealofEarth
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An easier time than a non-sharingan-user would, but against a person like Madara who apparently has the idea for a perfect genjustu? Sounds like he could really use one against Obito. Just a thought.
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spiral zetsu was obitos acting body, since obito was not yet completely able to do anything on his own. Obito has hashi's cells in him which allow him to perform the tech, via zetsu. and each of these people have something madara didnt, unmatched speed, and the ability to use ones bosy to engulf them in paper bombs for a 5 minute period. and the first panel is irrelevent, that was no real threat to obito's tech since all it did was damage a part of his body that he was able to simply regenerate thanks to hashi's cells
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heres another thought. obito is madaras apprentice and is the acting antagonist in this infinite genjustu so he knows enough to be able to counter it, or not get caught in one. Or are you forgetting that minor detail?
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Akatsuki wise guy
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The zetsu's are unlike obito fully made out of hashi and have also displayed more wood techs so obviously obito who has no even shown anything without zetsu can't really do anything. And even if he could which is next to nothing it is laughable compared to madara's mastery of wood style. Konan does not have unmatched speed she was just sly and used his strength against him. Madara who is much smarter and stronger than konan and already knows obito's powers can find a way around them.
Pretty much. You can't beat Obito just by being stronger than him. As Minato said, you need that 'special' type of power which would allow you to fully counter his abilities - Minato had Hiraishin, Kakashi has Obito's own eye, Konan needed years of prep time. Currently, no-one has been able to actually outline how Madara is going to defeat Obito. It's always "Oh he's Madara therefore he'll find a way". You could apply that to any character really. If we're going by that logic, people should really be saying Naruto is the strongest since being the main character will allow him to 'find a way to win'. I do still think Edo Madara has more than enough to prevent him getting warped by Obito, however, since Shinra Tensei > the moment Obito becomes tangible to begin his warp. It's just that I can't see Madara overcoming Obito's 5 minute Kamui/Shinra Tensei combination whilst also trying to overcome Gedō Mazō w/7 Bijuu & Obito's Edo Jinchūriki paths. Madara is the 'stronger' of the two by virtue of possessing a greater arsenal. It doesn't mean he'd defeat Obito, however.
CurseSealofEarth
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How do you counter infinity? Joking, personally I believe that Kamui is the only thing keeping Obito alive, but that's my opinion.
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The jinchuuriki are not part of his power but if you say so. Gedo mazo can be controlled by madara as he can control it to and probably better as it's original master and someone who has more mastery over his uchiha and senju powers which is what is needed to control it. With that he could dismantle the six paths(not that they should be in this fight) and then he can beat obito. Yes obito is intangible but madara can easily counter by bringing susanoo or wood to the area obito comes form forcing him to go tangible. Or continuosly spam huge attacks till obito's time is up. Madara has limitless chakra which means limitless spamming.
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unmatched speed was to describe the 4th hogake, the ability to engulf someone in paper bombs for 5 minutes was the reference to knonans abilities, and like i said madara has neither of these abilities unless you can prove me wrong. and why woulodnt obito have any wood techs at his disposal if his body is infused with zetsu who is pretty much a hashi clone. i dont think you really understand what i posted before you should read it again, no offense. and whether he can use it like madara is nothing, its how he can make what he knows of the wood tech coincide with his on special abilities and limitations. and its not like obito is as bad with wood style as naruto is with wind style, from what he displayed at 14. imagine 30..