is there really a shadow goverment or is just lies?

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Just live your life and ignore all this illuminati stuff, it's a big waste of time. Even if they are planning world domination or some shit, when the time comes, everyone will know, so just ignore it for now. You'll feel so stupid wasting all ur time looking into it, watch anime instead lol.

Your right. Though I looked in it a lot, that was 3 years ago. I'm more into positive knowledge like spirituality :p
 

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Yes, there are organizations & individuals exercising power behind the scenes & laughing diabolically.
 

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ofc not

the bad side of web is that the idiotic conspiracy theory make many ppl believe this kind of rubbish
 

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So we're all going to be enslaved at one point or another..? Stock up on weapons and pray that you won't have to deal with this but the future generations...time to learn some martial art skills and start hoarding food and water >.<
 

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ofc not

the bad side of web is that the idiotic conspiracy theory make many ppl believe this kind of rubbish

Your uninformed mate. Go educate yourself.
“The highest form of ignorance is when you reject something you don't know anything about.” ~Wayne Dyer
 
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I believe there is, otherwise the government wouldn't be so quick to hide information from ppl, there's all types of crap ppl talk about that they barely mention, and they end up with 50 to life.
 

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wow where tro start because it is a massive conspiracy you got no clue how big it is seriously they have purposley causewd the great workld wars and the soon to be biggest and last woorld war 3 i will tell you who is not the main leaders it is noit the us it is above it is not iklumnati they are just a tool of a machine which is basically the media it self and the one eye is a signature anyway it is higher there are mmany groups involved mninor and major old and new the first was the knights templar they were the so called crusaders but they even killed and destroyed christan ciities while they where coming to us muslims in jeruslem so they werent christans they where possing as them so they get the blame bro this is sooo big words can not discribe pm if you wanna learn stuff like satans involment since he doesnt exist in this subject people dismiss him and the elites are off the hook to us getting closer oh and their sole leader the man that has his eye as their signaturee the ma that has his own eye on the oyramid their so called god PM to learn more dont mind if you are atheist or something else just learn its fun and than analise it yourself never be closed minded you will never be able to be open minded oh and do not be too opne minded you will not be able to close that door lol
 

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haha i find it funny that you should tell me to go educate myself

/facepalm. your choice, stay simple-minded.
@ZeroKelvin, I said sometime earlier that there's enough evidence out there. You can search on your own. I've stepped out of these topics a while ago and I'm not going to search everything up or state some evidence for some unlegit bunch.
 
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/facepalm. your choice, stay simple-minded.
@ZeroKelvin, I said sometime earlier that there's enough evidence out there. You can search on your own. I've stepped out of these topics a while ago and I'm not going to search everything up or state some evidence for some unlegit bunch.

You have no argument. Your conclusion is invalid.
You're like a Christian, trying to convince Atheists that Gods exists by ordering them to read the Bible.
That's not an argument.

Unlegit bunch? Ad Hominem fallacy. Without arguments, your conclusion is baseless and illogical, if not outright retarded.
 

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You have no argument. Your conclusion is invalid.
You're like a Christian, trying to convince Atheists that Gods exists by ordering them to read the Bible.
That's not an argument.

Unlegit bunch? Ad Hominem fallacy. Without arguments, your conclusion is baseless and illogical, if not outright retarded.

This is going nowhere, so ask me a question concerning shadow government and I will answer, ok? Make it not too wide since the topic is too big to answer all at once.
 

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This is going nowhere, so ask me a question concerning shadow government and I will answer, ok? Make it not too wide since the topic is too big to answer all at once.

How did the 'shadow government' come into existence?
What was its original purpose?
Does it include any notable individuals?
From where does your information about the 'shadow' government' originate, and why has such information not been published yet? - As a continuation of this; where does your source get his information from? In other words; where's the 'root'?
 

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How did the 'shadow government' come into existence?
What was its original purpose?
Does it include any notable individuals?
From where does your information about the 'shadow' government' originate, and why has such information not been published yet? - As a continuation of this; where does your source get his information from? In other words; where's the 'root'?

Sigh.. I had these convo's over and over for years, it got boring.
But anyways:

It's an ideal, in which the 1% control our financial situation, our children's future and their mind.
This ideal goes back to biblical ages, if you do some research on it you'll see the patterns match up in a lot of political/cultural situations. This video is just a means to make you think outside the box.



It includes almost all earlier presidents, big names in politics, bankers and such. Try to look up the Bilderberg group and Bohemian Grove and such.

All that information is not published because a informed public is not in the govt's interest. Although they put signs in hidden was everywhere. I get my information from people like Jacque fresco, government officials that expose the establishment, my great grandfather who was a freemason, and logical thinking. Also news sources that are not influenced by government like RT News,

Your way of thinking is very typical which is understandable, since are minds are formed to their interest from an early age.
I honestly don't care if you believe me or not but I do want to help ou think outside the box.
[video=youtube;nT9tUxXUmUI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT9tUxXUmUI[/video]
watch this ^



the vids I sent you is not the evidence you asked for, just to make you think
 
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:| WTH

You are well aware that jews are the majority in the shadow goverment.
Also called 'Illuminati'
 

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Sigh.. I had these convo's over and over for years, it got boring.
But anyways:

It's an ideal, in which the 1% control our financial situation, our children's future and their mind.
This ideal goes back to biblical ages, if you do some research on it you'll see the patterns match up in a lot of political/cultural situations. This video is just a means to make you think outside the box.



It includes almost all earlier presidents, big names in politics, bankers and such. Try to look up the Bilderberg group and Bohemian Grove and such.

All that information is not published because a informed public is not in the govt's interest. Although they put signs in hidden was everywhere. I get my information from people like Jacque fresco, government officials that expose the establishment, my great grandfather who was a freemason, and logical thinking. Also news sources that are not influenced by government like RT News,

Your way of thinking is very typical which is understandable, since are minds are formed to their interest from an early age.
I honestly don't care if you believe me or not but I do want to help ou think outside the box.
[video=youtube;nT9tUxXUmUI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT9tUxXUmUI[/video]
watch this ^



the vids I sent you is not the evidence you asked for, just to make you think

Again, I watched both of your videos and read your post multiple times.
None of the videos supported their views with evidence. One used semantics to an extreme and the other used the misgivings of a single administration to undermine an entire system.
Democracy is always a dictatorship because the campaigns are funded by our self-invented currency? Don't make me laugh.
"Communism, Socialism, Fascism, the Free Enterprise System and all other sub-cultures are the same."
Do you realise how mad that sounds? Not only is he confusing ideology with sub-culture, but the utopia he describes as civilization in the last part of the video is an utter replica of an Anarcho Communistic society.
Read about these things before you call me, or anyone else, uneducated!
 

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Again, I watched both of your videos and read your post multiple times.
None of the videos supported their views with evidence. One used semantics to an extreme and the other used the misgivings of a single administration to undermine an entire system.
Democracy is always a dictatorship because the campaigns are funded by our self-invented currency? Don't make me laugh.
"Communism, Socialism, Fascism, the Free Enterprise System and all other sub-cultures are the same."
Do you realise how mad that sounds? Not only is he confusing ideology with sub-culture, but the utopia he describes as civilization in the last part of the video is an utter replica of an Anarcho Communistic society.
Read about these things before you call me, or anyone else, uneducated!

Were you talking about Jacque Fresco's ideal society with your last few lines?
If so, I do think his venus project has some flaws, though the resource-based economy sounds good, but like I said in my previous comments, its just to make you THINK outside your usual habitat. Honestly, I'm getting bored over here, so if you want to stay put in your controlled way of thinking, go ahead bro. + I told you the links I added were no actual evidence ..
 
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