Kakashi Hype

MilicaS · Nov 9, 2012

mikeeozua said:
It's been ever since Tobi was revealed to be Obito. I'm a kakashi fan myself, but i dont think he can beat anyone in the top 10 just yet, but he is very strong none the less

True!

Exaar · Nov 9, 2012

shelke said:
You need to read the manga again. He wasn't saving anything, his eye recovered after he was near death, and Sasuke paralyzed him with sword of Kusanagi. Tobi commented at that point, 'you never got a chance to use it', as Sasuke never gave him a chance to use his ability. Also, who is to say that an Uchiha genjutsu would work on another Uchiha? Doesn't make any sense to me.

Sasuke stabbed by danzo

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Sasuke getting healed by karin

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So even without Ka, sasuke might of died of his wounds.

Danzo's Eye started working Here

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Yet he chose to Grab karin instead of instantly using Ka.
Read what Tobi Says: "He can't decide to use it as a Genjutsu (KA), or Throw it away like izanagi. ALso Danzo states "i should use shisui's genjutsu on Madara".

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Aswell as stalling, he gave sasuke a little speach while he was holding Karin, he could of easily used KA if he really wanted to.

Dazuza360 · Nov 9, 2012

Roby said:
I see him as Hokages personal guards level ninja but not as kage

THIS^^^^

blazekev90 · Nov 9, 2012

Shodaime Swagkage said:
Yeah, I Know. Just trying to make a point.

What point were you trying to make exactly?? As those weren't jutsu themselves, how does it even relate?

sultan1998 · Nov 9, 2012

blazekev90 said:
Ok, I', getting quite confused with all the Kakashi hype, with him going against top tier shinobi and his ranking be compared to the title of "KAGE." Last time I checked Kakashi has defeated no one of any signifance, countering simple jutsu means nothing at this point. In all his fights i have yet to be impressed, they are entertaining however (vs. Hidan). Despite this what has he done to be full Kage level, who can he beat w/o question that puts him at this level?

I have noted that he for sure has skill, with analyzing a situation, countering specific jutus, etc but fails to pull out a win. Therefore, I'm not hating on his character, hell I use to be a fan but I'm not seeing all this hype behind him of late.

For me I see Kakashi as Jonin Level, which in itself is still very impressive but the ranking itself is being underrated. There is no such thing as low Kage, that's NB talk, you either have it or you dont.

Can he defeat anyone in top 10? 15? (depending on ones ranking)

Again, this isn't me hating but rather trying to understand this hype because I dont see how its emerged.

so u r saying that mei is stronger than kakashi or garra or tsunade hecan win against these 3 without even kamui
so kakuzu and hidan are jonin level then why couldnt asuma atleast be able to hurt kakuzu
and you are saying that deidara is a jonin level
or you are saying that danzo is a jonin level because he was comared to kakashi for the hokage title
even jiraya and tsunade said that he is a kage level

blazekev90 · Nov 9, 2012

sultan1998 said:
so u r saying that mei is stronger than kakashi or garra or tsunade hecan win against these 3 without even kamui
so kakuzu and hidan are jonin level then why couldnt asuma atleast be able to hurt kakuzu
and you are saying that deidara is a jonin level
or you are saying that danzo is a jonin level because he was comared to kakashi for the hokage title
even jiraya and tsunade said that he is a kage level

No, the only Jounin mentioned here is Kakashi, he's the only guard material person named.

sultan1998 · Nov 9, 2012

the orochimaru is a jounin level he only uses snakes that one jutsu and a genin defeated him and the one who defeated him is kakashis student
orochimaru without summoning jutsu is nothing
because without summoning he cant use edo tensie and he cannot use snakes and the current kakashi is at the level of orochimaru

Exaar · Nov 9, 2012

blazekev90 said:
No, the only Jounin mentioned here is Kakashi, he's the only guard material person named.

People have proved otherwise.

Sometimes i wonder if you have even see the comments in your own thread. There is no reason why kakashi is below Tsunade/Gaara/Mei's current levels.

blazekev90 · Nov 9, 2012

Exaar said:
People have proved otherwise.

Sometimes i wonder if you have even see the comments in your own thread. There is no reason why kakashi is below Tsunade/Gaara/Mei's current levels.

Only thing I noticed was the same mentioning of how he was asked to be Hokage.

Jonordo · Nov 9, 2012

He maybe kage level but will not become 1

Superior · Nov 9, 2012

There were arguments on this thread made by myself and Exaar that I consider to be very valid. Why don't you take the time to read through your entire thread...? You would notice what we have stated.

killakader1 · Nov 9, 2012

blazekev90 said:
exactly! He is perfect for defending against attacks and helping in anaylzing a situation, this is the guards role. He doesnt have it to fully be considered Kage himself.

Kakashi is Kage level, just let it go. Look at who he's been fighting this entire time. He may not be the strongest kage but he is up there. Holding his own in an all out battle with madara and tobi. And overall he's pretty dope. High level taijutsu, Extremely high level genjutsu, extremely intelligent, and over a thousand ninjutsu, what more do you want?! He has all the qualities you need to be a kage. It just doesn't look like much when you compare hi to all these super Op characters

killakader1 · Nov 9, 2012

Superior said:
@Kingpin. You're entire argument is that despite Kakashi having the power to be kage(Which YOU yourself have stated), and he obviously has the strategic knowledge, and The Leadership qualities, he isn't suited to be a kage because he has been saved by other shinobi? You say he isn't kage level because he can't win in a 1v1 against "top bosses"? Dude, you're ridiculous. Just stop it. Gaara was saved by Naruto and Chiyo. Tsunade was saved by Naruto in part I AND Part II, yet they both hold the title of Kage. A was saved by Bee against Minato years ago, but he holds position as Kage. In this manga, everyone has been saved by one person or the other. Just about any victory won wasn't won alone; whether it was Kakashi's fight or someone else. Kakashi has the power to be kage, which you haven't denied. No one can say he doesn't have the knowledge, as he is a very experienced shinobi, and he is smarter than most of the current Kage.

The only reason I can think of that you deny Kakashi is Kage material, is that you just don't like the character. If that is the case, then you're not even worth talking to.

*****

AnbuWhite · Nov 9, 2012

pervysage69 said:
The one thing people always forget about Kakashi and his fights is one of the reasons he always suffers is because he is having to cover lesser ninja that are about to be wiped out. In every fight he has been in up till this last one he was the strongest and had to cover for someone else. If he was ever in a fight and did not have to worry about someone else being killed and could just concentrate on the battle people would have a very different opinion of him.

Thank you. why do people not get that. one on one the man can kill almost everyone including some of the kages

Odd One · Nov 9, 2012

LolaxXx said:
Mokuton was his Kekki Genkai
The abilities whiched he used, his auto healing, and strength plus character is what made him legendary

Ooohh...so he can control tailed beats with healing and strength. That is cool.

tristan · Nov 10, 2012

blazekev90 said:
You can't compare the two. Wood release has many advantages, thus he build the village with it and Hashirama has accomplished a lot with it as well. On the other hand, Kamui has been fancy to cool to see used but has done nothing, but remove Deidara's arm and save his ass from dying.

plot no jutsu - kishi just doesn't put kamui on offensive whereas it even more effective thn raikiri...

Slug Princess Tsunade · Nov 10, 2012

The problem is that the Kamui is to OP. He is very strong, he can beat some of the Kages: Old Hiruzen, 4th Kazekage, 5th Mizukage, 5th Hokage ( but this is debetable)

shelke · Nov 10, 2012

Sasuke stabbed by danzo

Sasuke getting healed by karin

So even without Ka, sasuke might of died of his wounds.

Danzo's Eye started working Here

Yet he chose to Grab karin instead of instantly using Ka.
Read what Tobi Says: "He can't decide to use it as a Genjutsu (KA), or Throw it away like izanagi. ALso Danzo states "i should use shisui's genjutsu on Madara".

Aswell as stalling, he gave sasuke a little speach while he was holding Karin, he could of easily used KA if he really wanted to.

What? There is no indication of that happening, so that point is groundless. He was injured, yes. But near death? Not even close.

Look, this is what actually happened - all the fight points -