Kishi the troll

[NarutoKage2]

Back when the 4th Raikage A's power was first shown, we were told this:

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Notice what Karin says"Raikages chakras are growing,..these are tailed beast levels.

This obviously implied the Raikage A could reach the power level of a tailed beast. No arguments. But kishi decides to do an asspull and trolls the Raikage to no limit in the fight against Madara and make him seem hella weaker than what he really was. Just read this after the first scan above:

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"Only the Bijuu(tailed beasts) have a power comparable to this"

Kishis way too much of an Uchiha wanker to be honest. If he gave the Raikage a power that had the chakra level of a tailed beast, then logically he should have been able to compete with Uchiha Madara's perfect susanoo, since Madara himself said the bijjus power compares to that. I don't get why he gives out statements that he does'nt really mean.

I'm just tired of kishi downplaying so many characters after showing them as tough initially, Raikage A is the most recent but Gaara, Nejji etc are all other examples of this.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

It was said that A has the Chakra level of a Biju, not the level of power.

 

[OnPoint]

No. That Bijuu level chakra is what he uses for his monstrous Shunshins. It's not like he was ever going to channel all that chakra into a powerful Raiton attack or the like. Why would Kishimoto put Ay anywhere near the level of someone who, at that time, was known to have created the Valley of the End during his infamous battle and be the absolute pinnacle of the Uchiha clan? Unless you think someone like Kisame should also be able to fight against Perfect Susano'o?

 

[NarutoKage2]

No. That Bijuu level chakra is what he uses for his monstrous Shunshins. It's not like he was ever going to channel all that chakra into a powerful Raiton attack or the like. Why would Kishimoto put Ay anywhere near the level of someone who, at that time, was known to have created the Valley of the End during his infamous battle and the absolute pinnacle of the Uchiha clan? Unless you think someone like Kisame should also be able to fight against Perfect Susano'o?

Dude if he has that much chakra he can use it for any tech, i see no reason why he can't channel it however he wants. Having that kinda chakra's the problem, not using it. Kisame absorbed chakra from other's ninjutsu thats why he had so much different case.

 

[YellowFang]

I agree that Kishi trolled A right from his fight with Sasuke but about PS, I don't think A had power comparable to Bijuu but chakra reserves...

 

[Gene the Machine]

sorry but no... just because u have tailed beast chakras dosnt mean u have tailed beast power... just because u have hell of a lot chakra dosnt guarantee u can put out an attack like strong as a bijuu ball... so yes A has bijuu charka level but no attack in bijuu class...

 

[NarutoKage2]

I agree that Kishi trolled A right from his fight with Sasuke but about PS, I don't think A had power comparable to Bijuu but chakra reserves...

Yeah that's what i mean man. But power is basically the scale/strength of a tech and that does come from having a large enough chakra....

 

[OnPoint]

Dude if he has that much chakra he can use it for any tech, i see no reason why he can't channel it however he wants. Having that kinda chakra's the problem, not using it. Kisame absorbed chakra from other's ninjutsu thats why he had so much different case.

The technique he used it for was his Shunshin, nothing else; Kishimoto never intended for him to be seen as possessing Bijuu level power, so he hasn't retconned Ay. Kisame is known as the Bijuu without a tail and was even said to have one of, if not the largest chakra supply in Akatsuki [

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]. 30% Kisame pushed Gai to 6 gates. It wasn't because of Samehada.

 

[NarutoKage2]

The technique he used it for was his Shunshin, nothing else; Kishimoto never intended for him to be seen as possessing Bijuu level power, so he hasn't retconned Ay. Kisame is known as the Bijuu without a tail and was even said to have one of, if not the largest chakra supply in Akatsuki [

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]. 30% Kisame pushed Gai to 6 gates. It wasn't because of Samehada.

Ok, you do realize Kisame could absorb chakra without Samehada?

 

[OnPoint]

Ok, you do realize Kisame could absorb chakra without Samehada?

He wasn't constantly absorbing chakra from his opponents; he had a chakra supply which was naturally at ridiculous levels [

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]. Possessing Samehada just made him all the more dangerous.

 

[Simple Math]

well the chakra level of a bijuu, not the power of a bijuu

 

[NarutoKage2]

He wasn't constantly absorbing chakra from his opponents; he had a chakra supply which was naturally at ridiculous levels [

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]. Possessing Samehada just made him all the more dangerous.

Yes but his high chakra was because of his ability to absorb chakra from his opponents, and hang on ill show you a link proving that is'nt only samehadas thing.

well the chakra level of a bijuu, not the power of a bijuu

Chakra level, power same fcking thing. Everyone here is getting so worked up over that one word but you completely miss the point. Power comes from chakra so this excuse does'nt make sense to me.

 

[ahmadaliyuz]

I agree with ya. KISHIMOTO MASASHI

 

[Simple Math]

Yes but his high chakra was because of his ability to absorb chakra from his opponents, and hang on ill show you a link proving that is'nt only samehadas thing.


Chakra level, power same fcking thing. Everyone here is getting so worked up over that one word but you completely miss the point. Power comes from chakra so this excuse does'nt make sense to me.

by that logic kisame would also be able to beat something like this?

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Madara only said it as "powerfull" as a bijuu.. not chakra compared to a bijuu

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kishi would never make A beat Madara, because of his chakra then lose all his fans.

 

[YellowFang]

A is all taijutsu so his high chakra levels won't help him much... huge reserves allow you to use epic large scale jutsus which A can't use and if he uses his chakra to enhance his taijutsu, PS is almost 50 times than him so it won't make much difference...

 

[Six Paths]

the susanoo was as big as the gedo mazo and super powerfull the chkra level of the raikage can be as high as a bijuu but he can't survive a bijuu dama and the attack of the perfect susanoo was ass powerfull so the raikage can lose against a bijuu not of the chakra level but of the power so he is hopeless against the perfect susanoo

 

[FXW]

Chakra level, power same fcking thing. Everyone here is getting so worked up over that one word but you completely miss the point. Power comes from chakra so this excuse does'nt make sense to me.

Naruto's chakra reserves were said to be at least 4 times Kakashi's in the first part of the manga. That means he could beat Kakashi back then, right?

Chakra =/= Power

 

[ANONYMOUS 182]

kishi trolling us since 2007!!!

 

[natssuu]

*********** version said that ''Even bijuus aren't compareable with my Perfect Susano'o''

 

[End of Days]

*********** version said that ''Even bijuus aren't compareable with my Perfect Susano'o''

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"it rivals even the bijuu"