So, God really does not exist.

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FitzChivalry Farseer

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For your sake let me tell you this, you cant decide on a lifestyle by watching a video thats being gullible. Everything about that video is meant to have you agree with their argument. From the background music to the images shown its all a done for your attention. If you really did convert because of a video than how long would it take for some other video to change your mind about something else. Youre either really gullible or you really dont care about your spiritual identity or maybe you were waiting for a reason to get out of religion.

Think critically my friend about what you are doing talk to someone about religion and science. And I dont mean through forums and online socializing but face to face conversation.
 

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Who put it there? Who created earth? Who made humans?

Bible proved to be scientific years and years ago when people believe the earth was flat. Bible said the earth was round.

And the earth was hanging from nothing. It talks about the future, past, and present. It was i inspired by god and made by the gospel.
How can a book survived this long you say? The work of god.

God > Mans thoughts which can't direct there own step.

I'm sorry, but Bible says earth is flate - by mentioning it has corners.

Revelation 7:1
and these things I saw four angels standing on four CORNERS of the earth, holding the four winds of earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor any tree.
..and we know a sphere (I know earth is not exact sphere) cannot have a single corner.

Its also says earth is fixed in a position (not moving/rotating)
Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

It says sun rotates around earth..
Ecclesiates 1:5
the sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.

Yes, was once inspired by God, but the present Bible is made by humans.
Ps. I know this debate is not whether the bible is wrong or not, but since you came with "bible facts" I thought I would refute it with "bible facts". :)
 
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I don't understand your first problem with atheists could you re-word it better?

as for your second problem with atheists it still looked like babbling all I could get from it is you are saying atheists don't have morals? I have my morals I don't need some almighty being to decide them for me.



What is the purpose of your life?

What are morals to an atheist?
 

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Dont let your emotions take the form of the content on the video.

Thats saying that theyve won you over with an edited video.
 

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So i'm guessing you didn't like the video lol? Thats all I cared about in the first place.
 

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So i'm guessing you didn't like the video lol? Thats all I cared about in the first place.

Its not about liking or disliking this video but the idea that one single video changed your mind is what bothers me. Is the content of that one way conversation between the video and you really make up your worldview?
 

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I still don't get why is so difficult to believe in God.


a freaking video of a freaking guy? Jk. The video didn't change any of my belief. If he is such a Great & Intelligent person why don't he cure his disease. Not insulting anyone, just trying to prove "Humans' minds are limited".


You said it right "Humans minds are limited" which you're showing atm. I put in bold what made what I quoted goes against you. You pretty much contradicted yourself.
You say the bible is logic? really? so you're telling me out of nowhere this powerful being decided to created a world, people then he made a few life a shitty life, others a good life, put some as outcasts, make killers etc.. To punish them because of the actions of adam and eve? Hmm..Honestly. If that's your belief, it's fine but you shouldn't close your mind. I can understand why people don't believe in god, I can also understand why some would.
Being agnostic myself, I'm right in the middle- but personally, I really despise when people cant respect the fact that NOT EVERYONE will be religious. It doesn't mean there bad people, I've met bad people who are religious and really nice people who are religious. Also Atheists and agnostics who also can be bad and really kind.
Also, saying that someone who doesn't believe in religion or god has a disease is really messed up. Anyone could say that the fact you cant open your mind more is a disease and it actually is very much one.

This thread should get closed because most people here are just very close minded. I don't know why mods cant just band religion threads and threads about homosexuality. Those two subjects are very delicate to be discussed with kids in this forums.​
 
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People say that God doesn't exist and christians have no proof. Well,maybe if you took the time out to read the bible and I mean the whole thing,then you'd see proof.

Really,God left us his word as proof but you choose not to beleive it. In 2000 years people will read about Martin Luther King and call it rubbish. But there are other means of getting proof. If you pray to God and be really sincere about it God may take time out to answer your prayers.

I am speaking from experience and the bible itself says not to bear false witness so either every Pastor and every person who stands for a testimony in every church is a llieing,contradictary fool or you are wrong.
 

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You said it right "Humans minds are limited" which you're showing atm. I put in bold what made what I quoted goes against you. You pretty much contradicted yourself.
You say the bible is logic? really? so you're telling me out of nowhere this powerful being decided to created a world, people then he made a few life a shitty life, others a good life, put some as outcasts, make killers etc.. To punish them because of the actions of adam and eve? Hmm..Honestly. If that's your belief, it's fine but you shouldn't close your mind. I can understand why people don't believe in god, I can also understand why some would.
Being agnostic myself, I'm right in the middle- but personally, I really despise when people cant respect the fact that NOT EVERYONE will be religious. It doesn't mean there bad people, I've met bad people who are religious and really nice people who are religious. Also Atheists and agnostics who also can be bad and really kind.
Also, saying that someone who doesn't believe in religion or god has a disease is really messed up. Anyone could say that the fact you cant open your mind more is a disease and it actually is very much one.

This thread should get closed because most people here are just very close minded. I don't know why mods cant just band religion threads and threads about homosexuality. Those two subjects are very delicate to be discussed with kids in this forums.​
Lol I only wanted to see what people thought about the video, but NOOOOOO thats way to much to ask for. I just want a mod to delete this thread lol.
 

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Its not about liking or disliking this video but the idea that one single video changed your mind is what bothers me. Is the content of that one way conversation between the video and you really make up your worldview?

I saw this video maybe 5 months ago, and it sparked some interest. I had been a practicing before hand. I have always had an interest in science and so i saw this and checked it out. After watching it, i spent my time until now thinking, come up with theories, and delving into the research of Physical Cosmology. I have researched physics, energy, mass, and space to help understanding. What it really is, is that I have a craving for knowledge and answers, so after seeing the video, which was simply a spark, it turned into a fire, I now i trust logic more than religion. Maybe if someone actually paid attention to anything i said on this damned thread, they would notice that i've said this a few hundred times lol
 

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What is the purpose of your life?

What are morals to an atheist?

I personally don't believe there to be a purpose of life we simply live.

morals differ from person to person I cant answer this question.
 
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I personally don't believe there to be a purpose of life we simply live.

I can't tell you the morals of an entire people.

I really have no idea why everything in the univerce just happening by pure chance is more beleivable to atheists than some higher intelligence creating and planning it all.
 

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I'm sorry, but Bible says earth is flate - by mentioning it has corners.


..and we know a sphere (I know earth is not exact sphere) cannot have a single corner.

Its also says earth is fixed in a position (not moving/rotating)


It says sun rotates around earth..


Yes, was once inspired by God, but the present Bible is made by humans.
Ps. I know this debate is not whether the bible is wrong or not, but since you came with "bible facts" I thought I would refute it with "bible facts". :)
your misinterpreting bro, for the sphere portion, the four corners meaning each area..EQUALY distributing... basicaly the problem for most peoples interpretation is that they didnt know exactly how a jew in the middleastern, thought or how he saw something, i should word it better but basicaly a jew way back then spoke different then we do now... so small errors like this might make you think of there saying the earth is flat, yet it states in the bible the earth is round.
Also the bible is the only book that has science, ill give you an example. back then the romans used to think that when a man was sick...(a cold) or anything for that matter they used to cut the viens and let people bleed out.. and then say oh the sickness got to him...yet in the bible it said that the life was in the blood, and its importance the bible talks about paleontology, astronomy, biology, geography, physics as well.
Finaly I HOPE YOU READ THIS... WHY AM I USING CAPS? MABYE A CHANCE AN IGNORANT FELLOW WOULD READ THIS FAR, CHRISTAINS BELEIVE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MANY DIFFERENT MEN, OVER ACOUPLE HUNDRED YEARS HOW DID THESE MIDDLE EASTERN MEN KNOW ALL THIS THINGS BEFORE THE WORLD HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THESE FACTS? HOW DID THEY PREDICT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WORLDWIDE, AND THAT THE CHINESE POPULATION WOULD BE SO HUGE? I CAN GO ON... ASK ME ANYTHING ILL REBUTTLE IT.
 

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What is the purpose of your life?

What are morals to an atheist?

I'm agnostic, you want to know my purpose? My purpose is to become someone who can change this world and stop those who hurt others. I search for true equality, not an equality people talk about but never give. Also to become a great psychologist to help others deal with their life problems. Everyone has different purposes, there's not just 1.

My morals? I don't believe a man should hit a woman, ever. I don't think drugs are good or alcohol. *** with someone you don't love isn't moral. If anything I love the idea of *** after marriage. I believe in a good education because knowledge is the key to enlightenment and a better future. I love Jesus, yes I'm agnostic but believe in him- I just don't believe in religion.
I would break any rules that hurt any human, even if I pay the price for helping them. I love my mother and would do anything for my family.

You, think that atheists cant have morals? I've met many who are great people and also religious people who are great ppl as well. I personally don't care if a person has a religion at all. Just never shove your beliefs onto someone because there all entitled to their own beliefs.

Lol I only wanted to see what people thought about the video, but NOOOOOO thats way to much to ask for. I just want a mod to delete this thread lol.

Just go to a mod and ask him to close your thread. You will only get more hate from this.

 

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your misinterpreting bro, for the sphere portion, the four corners meaning each area..EQUALY distributing... basicaly the problem for most peoples interpretation is that they didnt know exactly how a jew in the middleastern, thought or how he saw something, i should word it better but basicaly a jew way back then spoke different then we do now... so small errors like this might make you think of there saying the earth is flat, yet it states in the bible the earth is round.
Also the bible is the only book that has science, ill give you an example. back then the romans used to think that when a man was sick...(a cold) or anything for that matter they used to cut the viens and let people bleed out.. and then say oh the sickness got to him...yet in the bible it said that the life was in the blood, and its importance the bible talks about paleontology, astronomy, biology, geography, physics as well.
Finaly I HOPE YOU READ THIS... WHY AM I USING CAPS? MABYE A CHANCE AN IGNORANT FELLOW WOULD READ THIS FAR, CHRISTAINS BELEIVE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN BY MANY DIFFERENT MEN, OVER ACOUPLE HUNDRED YEARS HOW DID THESE MIDDLE EASTERN MEN KNOW ALL THIS THINGS BEFORE THE WORLD HAD ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THESE FACTS? HOW DID THEY PREDICT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WORLDWIDE, AND THAT THE CHINESE POPULATION WOULD BE SO HUGE? I CAN GO ON... ASK ME ANYTHING ILL REBUTTLE IT.

Ok. Why are boogers green?
 

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i love religion threads. they are all the same, but nevertheless they always make me lolz
 

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Ok. Why are boogers green?
mabye you can try actualy using your brain and understanding what i wrote, can you even answer what i put? tell me how a middle easter, or many middleastern men wrote this bible without the CREATOR himself given them info, how did they know about astrology, geology? that all life was in the blood? about hydrology, how did they know that the chinese would be hugely populated, or that people can communicate worlwide like on nb? the men who wrote the christain bible, got the information from the ONE true creator himself... no other bible from any religion is like the christian bible.
 
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