So, God really does not exist.

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

No. After the video sparked my interest, i spent an un-healthy amount of time on the internet learning as much as i could, i went to the library frequently and read as much as i could, got what books i could on my ipad, watched all the movies about this stuff. For you, 5 months may not be enough time, but everyones different, and i'm way more open minded than a lot of people on this thread and am willing to listen to everyone as long as their respectful and civilized. You have no right to judge people, just because you don't understand something or can't comprehend it. And as far as you "significant other" goes, no one in america would want to listen to this, this would just make fun of you lol.

Will you listen to yourself? You "spent an unhealthy time on the internet","watched movies", "read books on ipad", went to the library read as much as you could, and that youre much more open minded. None of this time did you spent talking with someone that actually about this kind of "stuff". You never actually mention a conversation between a teacher or anyone. Its just you and a screen.

About the content of the video well that is unimportant. My argument is that if you want to change your life dont do it because a video inserts a huge amount of information or in your understanding "the stuff". If you actually spoke to someo/e face to face then im certain you will realize what you really want.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

Meh and so far liking this thread more then other other god threads on nb where their was nothing but complete flaming going on

I think i caused an un-necceary uproar tbh. I wish I hadn't made this. I wish i had made a different title, put the link to the video, and only asked what people thought about it.

 

[Mante]

just post the errors here bro? like i said the only arguementanyone has is a misenterpretation error, i mean what are the odds that these middleastern men knew all this info about the world... every prediction and prophecy in the bible has been true and happened, not ONE contradiction in the bible

Ok. If thats the way you want.
VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THEMSELVES

1) Genesis 6:3 and Genesis 11:11 - Life limited to 120 years?
2) Genesis 32:30 and Exodus 33:20 - Jacob's life was preserved?
3) Exodus 4:22 and Jeremiah 31:9 - Who was God's firstborn?
4) Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
5) 2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8 - Did Michael have children?
6) 2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4 - 700 or 7000 horsemen?
7) 2 Samuel 8:9-10 and 1 Chronicles 18:9-10 - Toi or Tou? Hadadezer or Hadarezer? Joram or Hadoram?
8) 2 Samuel 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18 - 700 or 7000 charioteers? 40,000 horsemen or footmen? Captain's name?
9) 2 Samuel 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Who provoked David?
10) 2 Samuel 24:9 and 1 Chronicles 21:5 - 800,000 or 100,000?
11) 2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - 7 or 3 years?
12) 1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chronicles 9:25 - 40,000 or 4,000 stalls?
13) 1 Kings 5:15-16 and 2 Chronicles 2:2 - 3300 or 3600?
14) 1 Kings 7:26 and 2 Chronicles 4:5 - 2000 or 3000 baths?
15) 2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2 - 22 or 42 years old?
16) 2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 - 18 or 8 years old? 3 months or 3 months and 10 days?
17) Ezra 2:65 and Nehemiah 7:67 - 200 or 245 singers?
18) Matthew 1:12 and Luke 3:27 - Who was Salathiel's father?
19) Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 - Who was Joseph's father?
20) Matthew 9:18 and Mark 5:22-23 - Dead or not?
21) Matthew 10:5-10 and Mark 6:7-8 - Bring a staff or not?
22) Matthew 15:21-22 and Mark 7:24-26 - The woman was of Canaan or Greece?
23) Matthew 20:29-30 and Mark 10:46-47 - One or two beggars?
24) Matthew 21:1-2 and Mark 11:1-2 - What happened to the ass?
25) Matthew 26:74-75 and Mark 14:72 - Before the **** crow once or twice?
26) Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 - How did Judas die?
27) John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 - Only begotten son?
28) John 5:31 and John 8:14 - Was Jesus' record true or not?

Want more?

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

Will you listen to yourself? You "spent an unhealthy time on the internet","watched movies", "read books on ipad", went to the library read as much as you could, and that youre much more open minded. None of this time did you spent talking with someone that actually about this kind of "stuff". You never actually mention a conversation between a teacher or anyone. Its just you and a screen.

About the content of the video well that is unimportant. My argument is that if you want to change your life dont do it because a video inserts a huge amount of information or in your understanding "the stuff". If you actually spoke to someo/e face to face then im certain you will realize what you really want.

Also one of the things you should do when your trying to find out about god role in everything ( when your already catholic) is pray hard about it doens't sound like he did that.

now i'm only saying this because its been my own way of doing things but you don't have to naruto go to church pray hard talk to a preist and find out from the view point of the church/ god that might help re change your mind give it a shot eietehr way i will pray for you gtg talk tommorw

 

[warpathixclan]

I agree with the video and the OP completely. I think people are just afraid to accept that there is no purpose to their life and when you die youre gone for good.

see whats funny its actualy the opposite, whats more scary having no problems and nowone to answer to when you die? or an eternity in hell where there is no escape... if you actualy read my post you would realize that the bible is indeed true and factual, yet you might ignore it like the other guy said... people simply ignore the truth because they dont want to sleep atnight knowing that they have to answer to an almighty god when they die.. your the one thats scared.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

Will you listen to yourself? You "spent an unhealthy time on the internet","watched movies", "read books on ipad", went to the library read as much as you could, and that youre much more open minded. None of this time did you spent talking with someone that actually about this kind of "stuff". You never actually mention a conversation between a teacher or anyone. Its just you and a screen.

About the content of the video well that is unimportant. My argument is that if you want to change your life dont do it because a video inserts a huge amount of information or in your understanding "the stuff". If you actually spoke to someo/e face to face then im certain you will realize what you really want.

I actually have discussed the topic with my science teacher who has her masters in science and the conversation went both ways. I had a conversation with my spanish teacher who also has his major in chemistry. I'm sorry i didn't give you every single detail of how i learned about this stuff. And quite honestly, I think your taking this just a tad bit seriously, like calm down bro. Also, i have had many deep conversations with my step father who he beein into science his entire life. There happy now. Go take the rod out of your butt while you at it too.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

I agree with the video and the OP completely. I think people are just afraid to accept that there is no purpose to their life and when you die youre gone for good.

The problem with a video is that it gives you no other choice than to agree with it. You cant raise your hand and ask about the credibility of a statement. All you can do is sit down, shut up, and agree with what they say. Its a one way conversation where you cant win if youre trying to argue back.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

Also one of the things you should do when your trying to find out about god role in everything ( when your already catholic) is pray hard about it doens't sound like he did that.

now i'm only saying this because its been my own way of doing things but you don't have to naruto go to church pray hard talk to a preist and find out from the view point of the church/ god that might help re change your mind give it a shot eietehr way i will pray for you gtg talk tommorw

How in the world would praying help me find out about the universe. its not like i'm going to have a conversation with god. I will be talking to myself.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

I actually have discussed the topic with my science teacher who has her masters in science and the conversation went both ways. I had a conversation with my spanish teacher who also has his major in chemistry. I'm sorry i didn't give you every single detail of how i learned about this stuff. And quite honestly, I think your taking this just a tad bit seriously, like calm down bro. Also, i have had many deep conversations with my step father who he beein into science his entire life. There happy now. Go take the rod out of your butt while you at it too.

You know what yeah go live your life with the most open mind as possible. Be entertained. Go learn as much as you can from what you been learning from so far. Just dont change ha dont change at all.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

You know what yeah go live your life with the most open mind as possible. Be entertained. Go learn as much as you can from what you been learning from so far. Just dont change ha dont change at all.

God whats with your sudden change, are yo being sarcastic?

 

[warpathixclan]

Ok. If thats the way you want.
VERSES THAT CONTRADICT THEMSELVES

1) Genesis 6:3 and Genesis 11:11 - Life limited to 120 years?
2) Genesis 32:30 and Exodus 33:20 - Jacob's life was preserved?
3) Exodus 4:22 and Jeremiah 31:9 - Who was God's firstborn?
4) Numbers 23:19 and Genesis 6:6-7 - Does God repent or not?
5) 2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8 - Did Michael have children?
6) 2 Samuel 8:4 and 1 Chronicles 18:4 - 700 or 7000 horsemen?
7) 2 Samuel 8:9-10 and 1 Chronicles 18:9-10 - Toi or Tou? Hadadezer or Hadarezer? Joram or Hadoram?
8) 2 Samuel 10:18 and 1 Chronicles 19:18 - 700 or 7000 charioteers? 40,000 horsemen or footmen? Captain's name?
9) 2 Samuel 24:1 and 1 Chronicles 21:1 - Who provoked David?
10) 2 Samuel 24:9 and 1 Chronicles 21:5 - 800,000 or 100,000?
11) 2 Samuel 24:13 and 1 Chronicles 21:11-12 - 7 or 3 years?
12) 1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chronicles 9:25 - 40,000 or 4,000 stalls?
13) 1 Kings 5:15-16 and 2 Chronicles 2:2 - 3300 or 3600?
14) 1 Kings 7:26 and 2 Chronicles 4:5 - 2000 or 3000 baths?
15) 2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2 - 22 or 42 years old?
16) 2 Kings 24:8 and 2 Chronicles 36:9 - 18 or 8 years old? 3 months or 3 months and 10 days?
17) Ezra 2:65 and Nehemiah 7:67 - 200 or 245 singers?
18) Matthew 1:12 and Luke 3:27 - Who was Salathiel's father?
19) Matthew 1:16 and Luke 3:23 - Who was Joseph's father?
20) Matthew 9:18 and Mark 5:22-23 - Dead or not?
21) Matthew 10:5-10 and Mark 6:7-8 - Bring a staff or not?
22) Matthew 15:21-22 and Mark 7:24-26 - The woman was of Canaan or Greece?
23) Matthew 20:29-30 and Mark 10:46-47 - One or two beggars?
24) Matthew 21:1-2 and Mark 11:1-2 - What happened to the ass?
25) Matthew 26:74-75 and Mark 14:72 - Before the **** crow once or twice?
26) Matthew 27:5 and Acts 1:18 - How did Judas die?
27) John 3:16 and Psalms 2:7 - Only begotten son?
28) John 5:31 and John 8:14 - Was Jesus' record true or not?

Want more?

well i guess ill start somewere, and googling bible contradictions is idiotic, in truth these are misinterpretations by others and you... first off for the 120 years, back then in bible times, BEFORE the flood people lived very long, and were also much larger and taller then we are now, before the atmosphere had like a layer or soemthing that protected us from the suns rays btw this will take very long mabye you could pm me i mean i could do this here but this will realy take very long... ill post the rebuttle still i guess but tell me this one thing, how did these middleastern men, know all this scientific truth, prediction or not how could they have known all this true facts when these things werent even discovered yet?

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Also one of the things you should do when your trying to find out about god role in everything ( when your already catholic) is pray hard about it doens't sound like he did that.

now i'm only saying this because its been my own way of doing things but you don't have to naruto go to church pray hard talk to a preist and find out from the view point of the church/ god that might help re change your mind give it a shot eietehr way i will pray for you gtg talk tommorw

Im not preaching religion if you havent figured out.

Im just not quite sure what to think of an individual who can be persuaded with a 42 min video. He must be really young I guess. The fate of a pawn is never a good one. Im sure he'll eventually start thinking for himself before hes persuaded to do something really stupid.

 

[asparticus]

I think it's safe to assume that it is time that we humans change our view on God's "will" and laws because the ones we have now are pretty bigoted and outdated. Many do not fit the modern world's standards anymore. There may in fact be a god, but to think that he/she/it/they handed these laws to us (that are so imperfect) is quite ridiculous imho.

tbh, i don't really care much about religion. I just hate it when people don't show respect to people who do care about their religion. I think having a religion/believing in god give hope to people, and that hope gives some happiness.

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

God whats with your sudden change, are yo being sarcastic?

Did you just say God?.... Umm awkward isnt it? Mr scientist. I think thats called blasphemy in the atheist department.

 

[NarutoDKurosaki]

Did you just say God?.... Umm awkward isnt it? Mr scientist. I think thats called blasphemy in the atheist department.

Lol i'm sorry, please excuse my speech.

 

[Mante]

well i guess ill start somewere, and googling bible contradictions is idiotic, in truth these are misinterpretations by others and you... first off for the 120 years, back then in bible times, BEFORE the flood people lived very long, and were also much larger and taller then we are now, before the atmosphere had like a layer or soemthing that protected us from the suns rays btw this will take very long mabye you could pm me i mean i could do this here but this will realy take very long... ill post the rebuttle still i guess but tell me this one thing, how did these middleastern men, know all this scientific truth, prediction or not how could they have known all this true facts when these things werent even discovered yet?

@Red: Yeah, its a stupid way of researching something, but it depends on what it is saying..I mean, if you doubt what I posted is true: check the translation of a bible that you trust. Remember, I have good reasons to believe that Bible is corrupted.

@Green: OK then

@Gold: you need to research other belief's point of view of History..and you know what, the sacred text I believe in has hundreds of "Scientific Miracles" and prophecies..

and LOL dont you think this is little off-topic? thats the reason why I said lets discuss via VMs.

 

[markdabomb22]

God FTW........

 

[FitzChivalry Farseer]

Lol i'm sorry, please excuse my speech.

I dont think you could change even if you wanted to. How you stop drooling over all this "amazing " and "wonderful" facts about the universe and try to understand simpler concepts. And how about you get out of the a-hole of the high jorse that youre on. You know. . . . . while youre at it.

 

[warpathixclan]

well i guess ill start somewere, and googling bible contradictions is idiotic, in truth these are misinterpretations by others and you... first off for the 120 years, back then in bible times, BEFORE the flood people lived very long, and were also much larger and taller then we are now, before the atmosphere had like a layer or soemthing that protected us from the suns rays btw this will take very long mabye you could pm me i mean i could do this here but this will realy take very long... ill post the rebuttle still i guess but tell me this one thing, how did these middleastern men, know all this scientific truth, prediction or not how could they have known all this true facts when these things werent even discovered yet?

well for the second quote, god is simply telling him you cannot see my true face, because he would perish if he did, all he did was see his face/ vision dream. your 3RD wow man your totaly misenterpreting scripter, god is saying isreal is his chosen people, they were in bondage and were suffering god told moses to tell the pharoah let his people go, and the other quote is talking about the tripe of ephraim, it was a man at one point but he isnt refering to a man.
4TH im qouting someone btw calvin wrote this The force of… “it repented the Lord,” may be gathered from… “it grieved Him at His heart.” This shows that the repentance of God does not presuppose any variableness in His nature or His purposes. In this sense God never repents of anything….The repentance of God is an anthropomorphic expression for the pain and of the divine love at the sin of man, and signifies that “God is hurt no less by the atrocious sins of men than if they pierced His heart with mortal anguish (Calvin)
5th we can conclude that this is a copyist error that should have read Merab. "Many scholars substitute Merab for Michal in 2 Sam. 21:8, regarding it as an ancient scribal error, saying that after her death her sons were hanged to atone for Saul’s slaughter of the Gibeonites, a breaking of Israel’s covenant
6TH And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven hundred horsemen…"Chariots" are not in the text here... but it is supplied from (1 Chronicles 18:4) where the word is expressly mentioned...which may be reconciled by observing, with Kimchi and Abarbinel, that here the chief officers are meant, there all the chariots and horsemen that were under their command are mentioned, which together made up that large number; or else here are meant the ranks and companies of horses David took, which were seven hundred; and these having ten in a company or rank, made seven thousand and there the complement of soldiers in those companies and ranks are intended.

David Guzik's Commentaries on the Bible agrees with the King James reading and makes no attempt to change it, saying: "David took from him one thousand chariots, seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand foot soldiers. Also David hamstrung all the chariot horses, except that he spared enough of them for one hundred chariots.
skipping to 26 this is a good example of an dumb reason to call something a contraditcion these two accounts give light on everything Luke explains what happened later, after Judas body began to decompose. The corpse slipped from the rope, falling headlong....burst open in the middle and all his entrails gushed out—the ignominious, yet deserved end of "the son of perdition two things, that didnt happen at the same time
IN THE END THE FACT IS NOWONE CAN ANSWER HOW THIS MIDDLEASTERN MEN HAD ALL THESE TRUE FACTS ABOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD, THE CREATOR GAVE THEM THE INFORMATION, THATS THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION

 

[warpathixclan]

@Red: Yeah, its a stupid way of researching something, but it depends on what it is saying..I mean, if you doubt what I posted is true: check the translation of a bible that you trust. Remember, I have good reasons to believe that Bible is corrupted.

@Green: OK then

@Gold: you need to research other belief's point of view of History..and you know what, the sacred text I believe in has hundreds of "Scientific Miracles" and prophecies..

and LOL dont you think this is little off-topic? thats the reason why I said lets discuss via VMs.

the tex you believe in? tell me more about them bro, none compare to the christian bible