sasuke would killed kakashi if sakura didn't arrive, BUT....

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Sasuke went blind right afterwards, so he was just plain screwed anyways. Pretty sure Kakashi was having an inner struggle bringing himself to kill sasuke which is why he didn't just kamui him to begin with. That, and kishi didn't want to step on anybody's fanbse. For an awesome vid on how the fight should have gone follow this link:
 

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I never even suggested that kakashi is stupid. Where did you read that? Sasuke is stupid only according to yours truly. The manga disagrees, and that's that. As it repeatedly illustrates his intelligence by referring to Sasuke as a genius. All ninjas commit acts of stupidity. Wasn't Kakshi saved by a couple of genin against Zabuza? It' all a process of growth, learning from your mistakes. Learn to grasp the manga.
It's obvious that Itachi was portrayed as a ninja far above Sasuke in intelligence during the fight against Kabuto, when Kakashi was portrayed as a ninja on Itachis level in intelligence if not more in several fights including the fight against Itachi, Obito, Pain, etc. Do the math
 

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hell no



Kakashi was in no shape to use kamui again. He could barely run.

kakashi's stamina improved only recently

The side effect of kamui are just for the few seconds after using it like amaterasu,tsukiyomi etc...
In next pages we can see him moving pretty well...

This chapter is just before the war so i don't think he improved only in 4-5 days...
He improved stanima just after the Pein fight.
 
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Sasuke may have more chakra, but Kakashi has something that Sasuke doesn't have: "intelligence or tactics in a fight"

So what do you call when Sasuke fought Danzo and Deidara that took intelligence and tactics to defeat both of those guys...and besides who has Kakashi ever fought 1 on 1 besides Zabuza the second time after nearly dying the first time
 

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Kakashi arrived after Sakura to save her, what the **** man, are you blind.
 

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It's obvious that Itachi was portrayed as a ninja far above Sasuke in intelligence during the fight against Kabuto, when Kakashi was portrayed as a ninja on Itachis level in intelligence if not more in several fights including the fight against Itachi, Obito, Pain, etc. Do the math

Point me to a page where it directly says that Itachi and Kakashi are on the same level other than a freaking data book. Do what math? He failed against Zabuza trick badly the first time, he didn't fight Hiden or Kakuzu alone, and all the battle was thought out by Shikamaru. Deva path beat him so brutally that it's not even funny because of his errors in judgement. During his fight with Obito, he was only able to note the Kamui effects, because he knows how it works. I wouldn't call it an intelligent observation at all.

As far as Sasuke is concerned then he lead groups himself. Fought one on one with Deidara by figuring out his patterns alone, defeated Dazno by figuring out his technique alone, He flaked Orochimaru's skin off when he was still a freaking genin by figuring out his opponent's tactics, he figured out how Haku was using his kekki genkai and burnt a corner of his hakama. He understood Orochimaru's justu and struck him down cleverly. During his fight with A, he cleverly encased his sussano with enton and A had no choice but to go head on and lose an arm in the process. These don't count as genius feats to you?

Even considering all this, I still believe Kakashi is a extremely brilliant ninja. You on the other hand are just challenging the manga, and nothing more. Sasuke is a genius and manga says so. Give it up.
 

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So what do you call when Sasuke fought Danzo and Deidara that took intelligence and tactics to defeat both of those guys...and besides who has Kakashi ever fought 1 on 1 besides Zabuza the second time after nearly dying the first time
So you're basically saying that Sasuke is on Kakashis level in intelligence? Not sure which manga you're reading. He fought Itachi in multiple occasions but never saw that more you use MS, more you becomes blind:
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Kakashi encountered tsukuyomi just once, but quickly realised that. Itachi even acknowledge Kakashis high intelligence:
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So you're basically saying that Sasuke is on Kakashis level in intelligence? Not sure which manga you're reading. He fought Itachi in multiple occasions but never saw that more you use MS, more you becomes blind:

And Kakashi only found out because Kisame basically belched it out in the open? Oh my gosh, how intelligent. rofl
 

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And Kakashi only found out because Kisame basically belched it out in the open? Oh my gosh, how intelligent. rofl
You mean like he did here?
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^ What are you talking about now? Sasuke is a genius ninja, stop making things up. That's all I am saying.
 

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^ What are you talking about now? Sasuke is a genius ninja, stop making things up. That's all I am saying.
Sasuke is a genius for sure. Only problem is that there are ninjas who are more genius and smarter than him like Kakashi, Minato or Itachi, but you can have your opinion
 

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It's common knowledge that Kakashi is one of the best tactical fighter in this manga when Sasuke is more known for his stupidity

You are joking, right? Sasuke is not on Kakashis, Minatos or Itachis level yet when it comes to tactics, but hes right behind them.
 

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You are joking, right? Sasuke is not on Kakashis, Minatos or Itachis level yet when it comes to tactics, but hes right behind them.
I surely exagerrated, but it's not far from what the truth :p
 

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Sasuke is a genius for sure. Only problem is that there are ninjas who are more genius and smarter than him like Kakashi, Minato or Itachi, but you can have your opinion

Please kindly point out any statement where I said they are at the same level. It's just you who is grossly exaggerating one, and completely underrating the other for your own convenience. According to the manga, Sasuke is right behind Itachi and Kakashi as far as intelligence goes. The manga has made it clear several time.
 

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CM sasuke could have killed Kakashi, let alone MS.
 

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I would like to see Kakashi beat current Sasuke now. He's got no chance.
 
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