[Theory] Itachi's Power = Key Scroll, I proved it with pictures (My Best thread ever!)
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Time gap? Large plot gap? Give Kishi some credit. There was no gap in there.
Too many things happenned and were depicted in a logical sequence. You need to read manga with more pateience.
#Naruto met Itachi.
#Sasuke was told to reach hideout.
#Itachi left Nartuto.
# Sasuke itachi fought.
#Jiraiya reached Rain Village.
#Madara and Kakshi's team faced each other.
#Zetsu came and told Itachi was dead. Shocked Naruto and rest of the team.
# At the same time Jiraiya tried to gather information and ends up fighting pain . We learn about him and his students's past.
#Itachi dies.
#Jiraiya dies.
#Madara left Kakshi 's team amid black flames.
#Madara took away sasuke and Itachi.
#Konoha team reached the spot and found nothing.
#Madara told Sasuke about Itachi.
# Naruto returns home and thinks about his cnfrontation with Itachi and tries to understand what he meant. It is night time.
#In the morning he learns Jiraiya was also dead.
There are too many mangas in between because too much took place within that short span. Simple.
I saw the other thread but, that had nothing to do with this one.
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I'll copy and paste what I just wrote before... count the mangas. There is a 40 manga gap BEFORE Kishi shows the conclusion of the chance meeting between "Itachi" and Sasuke... FORTY. How is that not a gap in plot?!?!?! Are you kidding me.?
Starts at Manga 365
Ends at Manga 403
Am I missing something?
Starts at Manga 365
Ends at Manga 403
Am I missing something?
Ok. So we understand eachother on that...
But why did Kishimoto wait this long... to complete the encounter? Other flashbacks show events that we have already seen. This flashback showed us something we never saw before...
My point is that Kishi could have easily just put the scenes from 403 in 366. (I rounded up for 40)
There has to be a reason for this. I am saying that there is some event that happened in those 37 managas, that is important to Naruto, and connects his to those battles.
No you don't.
According to you, as soon as Itachi left, Naruto should have left his team, gone home and start reflecting about Itachi. It didn't matter that his team ended up facing Madara.
You are arguing why Kishi depicted the other events which were occuring exactly at the same time before moving on to the part which happnned a few hours later.
Stupid Kishi. Maybe you should write to him.
I won't be answering anymore. As far as I' m concerned this topic is resolved.
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NOT at all. You are officially an idiot, or English is your second language.
There is nothing wrong with what Kishi wrote... why the hell are you implying I said that... you fool!
IN the latest manga... Naruto reflects back to a scene with Jiraiya that never happened... something about making the world a peaceful place... Kishi was showing that scene, because its importance to the plot is right now. Not back when it actually happened.
The same with the scene with Itachi... Naruto reflects on it after it happens... only because that part of the scene is important... only after the scene showing Jiraiya releasing his control over the keyscroll...
Plain and simple. Get over yourself and see my point of view. Don't infer that I am saying something, that I never said.
sageofmyobokuzan
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actually that scene with jman did happen, it was way back when, im not sure wat manga but i do remember it in the anime, and your theory is interesting leon but it just doesnt fit with the timeline thats all, if it fit within the timeline of the manga than your theory would be very plausible, but since it doesnt fit it loses the credibility that the timeline would have given it
You are way out of line. I am trying to be civil here, but, don't try my patience.
Off course there is nothing wrong with what Kishi wrote. You are the one harping over some supposed plot gap for quite some time, when there is none.
I am not getting into this again. Argue with yourself.
Sorry honey, but, how old are you? You have to come up with better arguments instead of rude insults.
Oh no. You did say it in clear words. See below. I highlighted it for your convinience.
Not only you keep repeating gap thing , you even fail to count the manga correctly.
Don't give me rounding up excuse either- It doesn't work that way- especially when you use cap lock to highlight it.
I really liked your idea and thought it was quite interesting. That's why I checked it out.
It was a nice thread, albeit your theory was based on a confusion. But, I 'm sorry to say you just lost my respect by your rudeness. I am not wasting anymore of my time on this.
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Thanks for reading, see below... only about the number of mangas Kishi drew before completing the scene... ie greater than 30 less than 40...
Sorry for being rude, but you are arguing over a measly 4 mangas...
Did you even read any of the posts or comments after my original?
I used CAPs out of frustration or making points...
AND! I proved myself throughout the thread, so please read the entire thing before you question my theory or insult me on it.
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You were the one who threw insults not me- so don't imply other way round. I refrained using the same tone/wording even when provoked. You didn't use caps only. You were abusive in the same post-repeatedly.
Anyway, I have been on net for a long time. Flames on forums don't phase me that easily. But, I'm not the one to turn other cheek either.
Still, If you are not going to repeat that kind of thing with me, I'm willing to leave it behind. It's a time waste for both of us.
And NO, I'm not arguing over the number. I read your posts and collaborated it with Manga. And posted my reply accordingly. You countered it with number argument and constantly ignored the hard facts some of us pointed out. The number of mangas in between still proves nothing. I feel you just don't want to accept that you made a mistake. But, I digress...
I say it was pretty much Itachi and you think it was the frog. It would be better if both of us wait for Kishi to confirm who it was- Itachi or the frog. Let us agree to disagree on this. till then.... (Maybe a princess kissed the frog en route and it turned into Itachi !!)
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I agree that this is a far out there theory, but not fan fic. I want to progress as well... so if you're willing to kiss the frog for the sake of neutrality... I shall as well.
In the famous words of Gambunta-The Wise .... "The fastest way to learn.... is to get inside the f@#$n' frogs mouth! "
Peace!
zumorikato
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Nicely handled both of you! its better to be friends with different point of views than enemies with different point of views.
All I have to say is respect one another's views even if its not the same, and dont keep arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Make love not war ; ) lololol
All I have to say is respect one another's views even if its not the same, and dont keep arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Make love not war ; ) lololol
ItachiUchiha91
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wow....i made a thread like this....but it was long time ago so w.e.
if u think jiraiya was working with itachi then howcome he tried to atk naruto and jiraiya has to save him and made itachi used his tsukayumi? lol way back b4 shippuuden
if u think jiraiya was working with itachi then howcome he tried to atk naruto and jiraiya has to save him and made itachi used his tsukayumi? lol way back b4 shippuuden
I made this thread on 12-18-2008... so idk... lol
I think that Itachi was working For and Against the Akasuki. By being in the organization he could help keep Konoha somewhat safe, or at least keep an eye on Madara.
Itachi returned to Konoha in order to let the village know he still existed. But also to reveal to Sasuke his presence near the village.
That being said. Itachi was trying to take Naruto with him, in the attempt of separating him from Jiraiya. Because any battle with Naruto would have alerted Jiraiya.
Considering that Itachi knew that Naruto was Sasuke's best friend, and also the key to Pein and Madara's plans... it makes you question whether "killing your best friend" is the true method to unlocking MS, or if it was a ploy to kill Naruto to save Konoha.
I also think that Itachi had planned to kill Naruto, once he got away from Jiraiya.