Why would people consider 3rd hokage for top 10?

[6pathofpain]

I dont wanna hear know bullshit about what his name is. What about any of his jutsu's, taijutsu or genjutsu make people think he could make the top 10?

 

[Drakengard]

Old Hiruzen or the legendary Prime Hiruzen? I could easily see him being top 10 material from his DB stats of his old age plus basic knowledge. Part 1 to Part 2 power scaling plays a part too. I'm more of a hype/implied guy than a strict feats type anyways.

 

[Joon]

What about the Second Hokage Tobimaru or the First Hokage Hashirama? You can say the same, just all Hype and no Feats. Besides that, its peoples opinions.

 

[Hipster Madara]

Because hype is a b*tch.

 

[lIlIlIl]

because in the manga they stated that he was the strongest hokage in the manga, and he fought the first, the second and orochimaru in part 1 when he was old as ****, when he was young he must of been a total bad ass

 

[Edo Odin]

People say he's so powerful because
1. His nicknames and all that s***
2. He beat Oro and Edo 1st and 2nd Hokage
He was strong, there's no denying that, but because of these two things some people consider him to be a god. What people don't realize is that the only reason he won was because of the RPS which is just way to powerful. Hiruzen was getting his ass kicked by them until he managed to catch them in his RPS.

 

[6pathofpain]

What about the Second Hokage Tobimaru or the First Hokage Hashirama? You can say the same, just all Hype and no Feats. Besides that, its peoples opinions.

But he has nothing to really put him in the top league, Like what can he do against planetary devastation, flower world, Bringer of darkness(besides kill himself which doesnt really count as a win), against obito, something to get through the 3rd or 4th raikage sheilds, or itachi or sasukes suasnoo's? Or how would he be able to catch minato or Bm naruto?

Old Hiruzen or the legendary Prime Hiruzen? I could easily see him being top 10 material from his DB stats of his old age plus basic knowledge. Part 1 to Part 2 power scaling plays a part too. I'm more of a hype/implied guy than a strict feats type anyways.

And Flower World will destroy most ninja's and most ninja's will have nothing against it, and bringer of darkness would be the end for most, And tobirama's bringer of darkness an ability to use high level water style jutsu with hardly any hand signs. This is why you cant say the same about them. Now what can you name of the 3rds thats anything like what i just said about the 1st and 2nd?

 

[Lrrrrr]

Hiruzen's a boss, don't deny U_U He easily fits top 10.

 

[blazekev90]

People say he's so powerful because
1. His nicknames and all that s***
2. He beat Oro and Edo 1st and 2nd Hokage
He was strong, there's no denying that, but because of these two things some people consider him to be a god. What people don't realize is that the only reason he won was because of the RPS which is just way to powerful. Hiruzen was getting his ass kicked by them until he managed to catch them in his RPS.

were we reading the same manga?!?!?! The third was getting a beat down and had to resort to suicide, yet still didnt beat Oro in the end.

 

[Drakengard]

And Flower World will destroy most ninja's and most ninja's will have nothing against it, and bringer of darkness would be the end for most, And tobirama's bringer of darkness an ability to use high level water style jutsu with hardly any hand signs. This is why you cant say the same about them. Now what can you name of the 3rds thats anything like what i just said about the 1st and 2nd?

Well then it plays down to the "strict feats" thing like I was talking about other than the "implied" meaning. Eg. I take Sakon/Ukon to be stronger than Kidomaru even though by feats Kidomaru has impressed me more. I take the overall idea of the fight.

 

[6pathofpain]

because in the manga they stated that he was the strongest hokage in the manga, and he fought the first, the second and orochimaru in part 1 when he was old as ****, when he was young he must of been a total bad ass

Well minato was said to be a ninja that would never be surpassed(contridicts the manga), the 1st was said to be the closest thing to SO6P and a ninja who's power was that of a fairytail(contridicts the manga) so until the manga stops contridicting itself i dont wanna hear that kinda stuff smh

 

[Edo Odin]

were we reading the same manga?!?!?! The third was getting a beat down and had to resort to suicide, yet still didnt beat Oro in the end.

Ooops, made a little mistake there, meant to write "he beat the 1st and 2nd Edo Hokages". But yeah, that's what I said... he was getting beaten to a pulp until he had to resort to the RDS which allowed him to seal the 2 kages. Hashi and Tobirama were just playing around with him for the most of the fight

 

[Djokovic]

Old Hiruzen beat the Senju brothers so I guess he would be ranked somehwre above Hashi.

 

[cLang cLang]

I lol at people who say Hiruzen trashed The first and the second Hokage. Only reason he won is because Oro is clearly a noob when it come's to manipulating his Edo Tensei's/ not skilled/ a ******. Hiruzen is top 10 material? I lol'ed again, Sasuke would school that old geezer.

 

[6pathofpain]

Well then it plays down to the "strict feats" thing like I was talking about other than the "implied" meaning. Eg. I take Sakon/Ukon to be stronger than Kidomaru even though by feats Kidomaru has impressed me more. I take the overall idea of the fight.

My point is, is that Hiruzen has no super strong jutsu or genjutsu that would stop planetary devastatsion, flower world, get through the raikage's lightning sheilds, the uchiha's suasnoo, or that gives us a reason to believe he's smart enough to touch minato, naruto, or obito.

He has no game changer moves what so ever. And his feats? His feats are his name, thats it, who has he really beat? and by beat i mean he didnt die. Cause tec he didnt beat oro because he died and oro didnt, and he had to kill himself to beat the 1st and 2nd. And anyone with Reaper death seal could do that smh, i wanna know what makes people think he's so strong...

he's done nothing!

 

[ltachl]

No Senju DNA.

 

[spade3dg]

I lol at people who say Hiruzen trashed The first and the second Hokage. Only reason he won is because Oro is clearly a noob when it come's to manipulating his Edo Tensei's/ not skilled/ a ******. Hiruzen is top 10 material? I lol'ed again, Sasuke would school that old geezer.

And this is why people hate sasuke fanboys.

 

[Uzimaki Akira]

People say he's so powerful because
1. His nicknames and all that s***
2. He beat Oro and Edo 1st and 2nd Hokage
He was strong, there's no denying that, but because of these two things some people consider him to be a god. What people don't realize is that the only reason he won was because of the RPS which is just way to powerful. Hiruzen was getting his ass kicked by them until he managed to catch them in his RPS.

Which he managed to do three times in succession.

 

[Lrrrrr]

I lol at people who say Hiruzen trashed The first and the second Hokage. Only reason he won is because Oro is clearly a noob when it come's to manipulating his Edo Tensei's/ not skilled/ a ******. Hiruzen is top 10 material? I lol'ed again, Sasuke would school that old geezer.

No no, Hiruzen is better then Sasuke and defeated the 1st and 2nd, he's definantly top 10 material U_U He's top 1 material.

 

[Edo Odin]

Which he managed to do three times in succession.

Which is pretty much the only remarkable thing we've seen him do. Look, I'm not denying the fact that Hiruzen was powerful but I don't think he deserves to be in the top 10 list, and not even in the top 25 list since the only thing we ever was him do was defending against Hashi, Tobirama and Oro, activating the RDS, and then grabbing them.