All Sasuke's power was a result of someone giving it to him?

[itachiXnagato]

Lol, naruto didn't even ask for the nine tail to be sealed him

 

[Kira Vs L]

Dude he used the curse mark like what 3/2 times and how is it not his power something that can kill you but he learned to control it so it's his power

Yes he controled it just like naruto controls kurama's chakra the point was just saying that they were both given power. But people say naruto isn't strong that its just kurama so I made this theard about sasuke basically saying if naruto isn't strong neither is sasuke.

 

[fairytail10]

Once again to all those who just posted, the point of this thread was that say that sasuke was given his power... What I say to that is so what just like naruto was given the nine tails my point is now its their power. I had just run into some people that did not consider naruto being strong because he had the kurama and kurama was given to him so I said the same about sasuke not hating in any way just stating facts.

If Itachi gave Sasuke the MS then why is his MS different? because by your logic Sasukes MS should look like Itachi's MS.

 

[fairytail10]

Lol, naruto didn't even ask for the nine tail to be sealed him

And Sasuke didn't ask for the CM... so what's your point?

 

[Kira Vs L]

I know it's not, but you're taking away Sasuke's powers when he got most of them himself. No one gave him Sharingan or MS, he unlocked it. He created an S rank jutsu in Kirin all by himself. His chidori variations were self-made. He got the hawk summoning himself.

Funny how some of sasuke's moves we only see once and he never uses them again but people put it as some of the moves he could do any ways like I've said again and again was just saying that they were both given power but now it's theirs.

 

[fairytail10]

Funny how some of sasuke's moves we only see once and he never uses them again but people put it as some of the moves he could do any ways like I've said again and again was just saying that they were both given power but now it's theirs.

Other than Kirin Sasuke can use all of his other moves.

 

[Kira Vs L]

Curse Mark : Was forced upon him, It's not like he asked Orochimaru to bite him; No Orochimaru bite him to make sasuke seek him for more power.

Eternal MS: He didn't want it in the first place, He had to use his brothers eye do to over use of the MS or do you not remember Sasuke saying he won't take his brothers eye when he first started he plan to destroy kohona. Plus the one reason he took them was because he ran into good ol' team 7 and knew he needed more power.

Rinnegan: The one is a Give and take;look at it:

Madara gets Hashirama's DNA: gain's Rinnegan >Madara (gives Rinnegan to) > Nagato ( Dies then gets the Rinnegan stolen by)> Obito

I do agree with you though, all the arguing over it is nonsense.

Yea I've repeated myself so much the point of the thread was for those who say naruto isn't strong and he is only strong because of kurama so all I did was say the same about sasuke so they could have their eyes open.

 

[Kira Vs L]

I'm not a fanboy or nothing but it would be cool if sasuke gets the 9 tomoe like how the 10 tails beast has. Just brain storming here >__<

Lol I don't even know what to say to this but umm ok I guess

 

[Kira Vs L]

Every single character was giving something to become powerful, look at akatsuki half of them was given powerups

Idk if that's true or not but the point was just that what ever power was given to them is thiers now so you can't say oh naruto isn't strong it's just kurama or sasuke isn't strong it's all EMS

 

[Kira Vs L]

Totally agree with OP. Sasuke is just a magnet for power-ups he never earns. That's why I don't see why people think he's a "Genius". Shikamaru is a genius, Kakashi and Shukaku are geniuses, Sasuke is NOT a genius and never earns his power, it's always given to him. Except for the beginning to middle of Part I. He did earn his power. Then he started to use the curse mark....Oh wait! Oro gave that to him like right in the beginning of Part I!

I'm not trying to talk bad about sasuke or anything just saying he was given power like naruto was

 

[Kira Vs L]

nagato was also given the rinnegan....but he had the strength to develop it and master it,so did sasuke with many powerups....what`s the point??

My point was people were saying that naruto wasn't strong that it was all kurama and that's it, and that, that power isn't even his so I said the same about sasuke

 

[Kira Vs L]

theres a difference yes naruto was given kurama, but WORKED for KM, SM sasuke on the other hand did not have to work hard for EMS, curse mark,etc. also i consider KM naruto's own power because he defeated kurama and separated kurma's chakra so that naruto could use it at his own will so... yea

Yea that's true all I was stating was that they were both given power

 

[Kira Vs L]

this is a useless thread what your sayin is just stupid yea sasuke got most his powers from everyone else but he got the summoning of the hawk from himself and another thing every ninja gets all there powers from someone else so no point to be just focusing on sasuke in this thread
and yes naruto does get all his powers from the nine tails and it doesnt help that narutos dad is the 4th hokage

Not really sure what you trying to say no not every ninja was given their power just look at rock lee he worked hard for every thing he has. The theard was for people who say naruto isn't strong and that he is just strong cus of kurama that was given to him. So I said the same about sasuke.

 

[Kira Vs L]

Stop with this already.

Naruto and Sasuke are equal in nearly every way possible, that is the same when it comes to the nature of their power.



For starters... Naruto has his own ''kekkei Genkai''... dont pretend it's not there.... His own very large chakra pool is the equivalent of Sasuke's sharingan

Both had potential lying within their blood line... Sasuke had the potential the awaken the Mangekyo because he was a genius himself, not because it was given to him.

Naruto was able to achieve sage mode due to the fact that he had the chakra required to maintain several clones to gather sage energy for them.


Where they got to the point of accesssing power ups that were GIVEN to them is when ;

Itachi gave his Mangekyo to Sasuke so that he could achieve EMS

and

When Minato and Kushina intervene to help Naruto master Kyuubi so that he could use it's full power.



A fully controlled Kyuubi is the equivalent of Itachi giving EMS to Sasuke.



And don't go and claim Naruto ''worked'' to get Kyuubi under control and on his side while Sasuke did nothing.... In order to have the EMS.... Sasuke had to have the potential to have the Mangekyo,,, and he did... and thats because he was talented, not because Itachi did anything to him...




Minato / Kushina played the exact role as Itachi played for Sasuke ; They sacrificed themselves so that they could leave power behind for Sasuke and Naruto to use... Power that would put them both on a whole other level, a level that was previously achieved by Madara and Hashimara.






The only notable difference between Sasuke and Naruto is how they exploit their potential. and thats simply due to how they're gifted as Shinobis.


Sasuke's chakra pool is above average but not in the leages of Naruto

Although, Naruto's efficiency is not as good as Sasuke's ... meaning Sasuke is able to achieve success on his own faster than Naruto.



Naruto has the quantity, where Sasuke has the quality.... both will achieve the same height... but Sasuke will achieve that height using less chakra.. while Naruto will go on for a longer period of time due to him not being as talented but having the chakra to give him the possibility to do so.



they are equals.... quit it.

Lol dude what are you talking about. Sasuke was a genius cus he got MS killing someone special yea that takes so much smarts to do lol. Shikamaru, Minato, kakashi now those where geniuses. About your other points I'm not even going to get into cus that's not the point of the thread, it was just stating that they both got powers that weren't theirs that's it.

 

[Kira Vs L]

If Itachi gave Sasuke the MS then why is his MS different? because by your logic Sasukes MS should look like Itachi's MS.

Sigh itachi let him win in turn letting get MS I honestly don't know what your talking about

 

[Kira Vs L]

And Sasuke didn't ask for the CM... so what's your point?

My point is they were both given power and now that power belongs to them. People say naruto isn't strong and that it's all kurama the reason y he is strong so I stated the same thing about sasuke that's all.

 

[XXKillThemAllxX]

I'm guessing Sage mode was "given" to naruto as well? not a Fanboy.. but please dont get confused with "Controlling" and giving.. Naruto took years to master aandd controll 9 tails.. it wasn't giving... if anything.. 9 tails was using naruto more than naruto used him. sasuke wasn't given EMS.. he had them awaken.. hence it was already in him.. as for all oro powers.. it was given to sasuke.. but thats it

 

[Kira Vs L]

I'm guessing Sage mode was "given" to naruto as well? not a Fanboy.. but please dont get confused with "Controlling" and giving.. Naruto took years to master aandd controll 9 tails.. it wasn't giving... if anything.. 9 tails was using naruto more than naruto used him. sasuke wasn't given EMS.. he had them awaken.. hence it was already in him.. as for all oro powers.. it was given to sasuke.. but thats it

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to talk bad about either was just stating that people that say naruto isn't strong and that it's just kurama are wrong so I made a thread about sasuke stating the same thing obviously he was "given" power just like naruto wasn't either cus he didn't ask for it to be done to him. They were both "given" stuff but they mastered it themselves.

 

[MCYoungJT]

He isn't saying that Naruto wasn't given power he is saying that Sasuke isn't any better. I think its a dumb argument if you say someone isn't good if you take away their main thing. Well no duh

That's like saying I bet Kiba would destroy Shikimaru if Shikimaru didn't have shadow possession.

Or saying Ten ten would suck with out weapons. Duh you can't take away what makes them strong and say their weak.
Naruto uses the 9 tails get over it
Sasuke spams is EMS get over it.
No one complains about Yamato only using wood when he knows earth and water jutsus to

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

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