[Predictions] Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

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Madara's Goal: plans on using Akatsuki to gain the Tailed Beasts for himself and use their power to strengthen his Mangekyo Sharingan. In the past he showed great interest in destroying Konoha.

Pain's Goal: The beasts would be used to create a deadly kinjutsu technique that could wipe out one of the five great nations in an instant, so if countries go to war and do not have ninja villages to fight for them they would turn to the Akatsuki and their technique... the mutual fear, war would cease and the world would know peace until the people forget that fear and start wars againa and agian use the technique ,creating a small period of peace in an endless cycle of hatred.

In short Madara is happy with the way things are, but wants to be the ruler of the Fire Country as is. Pain, however, wants to change the structure of the landscape altogether and place himself as 'peacekeeper'.
they can call on vegeta and have him wipe out a single planet with one finger blast...
(remember the time when he was with nappa?) no kyuubis needed...batteries sold separately
 
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I think you?re wrong man. Each one of those bodies uses Nagato?s powers.., if you remember well, Jiraya defeated the first body that Nagato used as a summoner, and then he replaced it with the girl, which started summoning the same animals as the one Jiraya fought. So, it?s not the body?s power..., but Nagato transmiting through it.
i think wat cjoe meant was....
the bodies hes controllin has their own special technique....
kinda like how sasori had the 3rd kazekage body and chakra....
so since negato can black out and transfere his mind or thoughts into the dead...
he now has control over the body and power to the best of its efforts....
so w/e power they can use.. he also can use... which goes along wit him...
bein able to use diff ninjutsu and all that good stuff...
 

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I think Nagato's idea of peace by giving power is not that crazy. For example, in real life, nations like the USA and Russia had a Cold War but no one fire the first shot because both side knew that a nuclear war will destroy both sides. Unlike the war between USA and Iraq, Iraq didn't have nuclear power and the USA didn't see a real threat and so USA started the war. But if Iraq had nuclear bomb in the first place I don't think the USA would have risk a real nuclear war. Because Iraq was a small nation with out the ultimate power(or nuclear bomb) USA didn't care and pawned them. USA didn't dare to touch Korea and Iran because they have the ultimate power.

So, Nagato's idea is to give every nation the ultimate power to prevent war. But his idea is a little strange because he said that war will happen and peace will follow. I'm a little confuse on his idea because even without him there will always be war and peace. I think someone messed up the translation from the raw.
Not quite, we're not at peace at all, even the small seemingly-peaceful times are covered with agony, pain, death, and turmoil. Nagato's idea would never work, in the end, it would just destroy everything...leaving nothing and no-one alive.

Looks like Naruto's been shaken quite a bit, but hopefully...he ends up telling Nagato that he's got the concept of "Peace" wrong, and he'll destroy Yahiko Pein by unleashing the Kyuubi (or something related..any power boost)...I'm sure Naruto would stick to his guns, stating his Nindo and how he will never stray from it, hell, he might even add bringing true peace to the world to it.


One thing's certain tho, Naruto will kill off Pein in order for Madara to achieve his goal...how else is Sasuke going to come back into play, only other way is for Pein to escape with his life and have the cycle of Pein all over again, new 6 Realms, same strategy...and of course things might change, but Naruto would be prepared, and the Leaf Shinobi know Pein's secret, so he won't be much of a threat in the manga anymore...he will have finally become a minor villain.




End of Pein and his goals...Madara Uchiha's time to shine (even though I hate the motherf***...)...none of you can deny that he will be the final villain...at the moment, too much info is spread out about Pein, he's become weak and liable to being Killed Off.

Madara is still the Invincible Immortal(even tho Itachi stated he was "a shell of his former self")...Madara can't even be touched due to his extremely advanced Space/Time Jutsu.
 

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Er...am I the only one who thinks that Nagato's idea of peace actually makes sense?
I hope so. -_-;

Sorry. But, at the moment pain and his organisation was not in a war like situation- they are seeking it. Konoha got destroyed on Nagato's whim. He is not stablised enough and already acting like self righteous jerk.

He plans to use it for further distruction - His idea being that people will find out how dangerous it is and then will live in peace for the fear of it- it doesn't happen that way. First of all a lot more innocent people will die and distruction will take place by Pain. And then a lot other people will try to get that machine and it will be another problem.

In fact , even now his own organisation has people with different goals . We all know Madara is power hungry. Self centred. Immortal. Dictator. and it will be him who will own the weapon.
 

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Exactlly.

Everybody wants the peace- On their own terms and to be in driving seat to decide those terms for forever. that's the whole problem.
I doubt that naruto, sakura and the others want be in charge of peace. They just don't want to bring peace by force like pain wants. But pain thinks that all methods are good for achiving his goal.
 

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Er...am I the only one who thinks that Nagato's idea of peace actually makes sense?
i agree with u the only thing that makes this evil is money. hes gonna use it to control wars n etc.

Hey what was the 6 bodies of pain have to do with anything jiraiya defeating them all(or encountered with all 6) as said in the jiraiya vs pein fight
-pein picking 6 bodies dat jiraiya fought (except the girl, since it wasnt confirmed)
-does pain still have something about his character that we dont know yet n is important before he gets defeated
 
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i agree with u the only thing that makes this evil is money. hes gonna use it to control wars n etc.
Money. ketword. :p

We know why Itachi was with Pain (somewhat). but what about rest of the Akasuki members?

Madara, Kakazu, hidan, Orochimaru... What was Pain thinking when he selected his team? Each member seems to have a separate goal.
 

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well i really dont like pains point of view about peace but he sorta does have a point. theres just an endless cycle of hatred i mean look at the sand village at the chuunin exams, orochimarus hatred for konoha made the sand village go to war with konoha and even involving the sound village to go to war with them. theres a chance of war on every turn.

if naruto understands what pains going at(god i hope not) then naruto will probably give himself in to akatsuki so he can make the countries, his friends have peace. naruto is the destined child to either lead about a revolution (the wars that are happening now and later in the ninja world and eventually bring peace) or bring destruction in order to obtain peace(pain's perspective) naruto was given the right to decide how peace will be bestowed not pain. thats why yondaime sealed the kyuubi inside naruto, to lead a revolution with or without the kyuubi or use its power to go along with the idea that pain has made
 

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Has anyone speculated yet that Madara Uchiha actually is the weapon that Pain intends to use. I mean as I hear Pain speak, it seems less and less likley that he wants to actually rule the world with an iron fist, it seems more like he doesnt actually intend to exist in his peaceful world. Which is why I have no idea why he would coordinate with a warmongerer like Madara. Madara has said that the tailed beasts would empower his sharingan, maybe thats the weapon Pain actually seeks to use, this is the only reason I think he would work with someone like Madara.
 
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