[Predictions] Naruto Manga 437 Predictions / 436 Discussion

[sageofmyobokuzan]

ah ok i see what you mean, but no one can use multiple jutsu's at once

 

[cjoe7]

Originally Posted by sageofmyobokuzan View Post
"All the power of the pain bodies are originally nagato's, all the summons were controlled by him, which means all the jutsus were too, and he uses the bodies like puppets, why fight in person when you can control puppets efficiently enough to kill your opponent. He uses the bodies because he either doesnt deem it necessary to fight in person or because he doesnt want anyone to know his true identity, or because he really is ill, although i think that he only looks skinny because of the machine draining his chakra. but all the jutsu's used by the pain bodies are nagato's, why wouldnt they be??? he isnt controlling living bodies, he is infusing dead bodies with his own chakra"


Nope... you're wrong. Negato's only Kekkei Genkai, the rinnegan, gives him the power to control people LIKE PUPPETS. The other bodies he uses possess thier own ninja art, nature type (wind, fire, water etc.), and own kekkei genkai. It is likened to Sasori's puppet skill, but Negato's has a much greater range in addition to it's shared field of vision.

Negato, however, probably has his own skill set aside from his rinnegan which might be quite powerful in it's own right. But this skill (as we will see when Shikimaru finds him) will be nothing in comparison to the power he gains by utilizing his puppets.

 

[dbzboy300]

if you guys take a look closer at the last two pictures, you will see the brushes are behind Nagato. Maybe Nagato is hiding behind the bushes? but I also see rocks too....umm....what do u guys think?

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

Nope... you're wrong. Negato's only Kekkei Genkai, the rinnegan, gives him the power to control people LIKE PUPPETS. The other bodies he uses possess thier own ninja art, nature type (wind, fire, water etc.), and own kekkei genkai. It is likened to Sasori's puppet skill, but Negato's has a much greater range in addition to it's shared field of vision.

Negato, however, probably has his own skill set aside from his rinnegan which might be quite powerful in it's own right. But this skill (as we will see when Shikimaru finds him) will be nothing in comparison to the power he gains by utilizing his puppets.

no its nagato's jutsu, its like with zabuza, he had to take hearts from living people, he couldnt take dead ones because there is no chakra left in the body, the rinnegan allows the user to use all 6 nature elements like an expert, and every jutsu in the world, the manga has never said that the power of the rinnegan comes from the use of puppets, if you can find that somewhere i will stand corrected but from what the manga has told us the power comes from the user of the rinnegan, not the bodies he yields, how else would he get dead bodies if he couldnt kill the person himself??? and hey does anyone else think that if nagato escapes, he might use hanzou and jman's bodies???

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

and konan said it herself that its shortens his lifespan when HE uses shinra tensei on such a large scale

 

[OmegaVegeta2000]

its all because his country was the battleground for war, meaning no food and no water, he maybe even gave almost all of his food to konan (look how konan's body is right now) well as a friend, konan should have at least breast fed him....nyeheheheh

:akatsuki:

lmao

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

looks like naruto understands maybe he will join pein on his plans for peace...

naruto is not going to join akatsuki, that would go against his ninja way, he will not lose this fight because he never gives up, and nagato has used up a lot of chakra since arriving in konoha

 

[YeS_I_AM]

ah ok i see what you mean, but no one can use multiple jutsu's at once

no, that's not it=) I mean that Nagato can't do the summoning, then shinra tensei and then absorb the blow (for example) one right after another. I think that Nagato has to wait some time do a tech after he finishes the previous one...

 

[Devlin]

no its nagato's jutsu, its like with zabuza, he had to take hearts from living people, he couldnt take dead ones because there is no chakra left in the body, the rinnegan allows the user to use all 6 nature elements like an expert, and every jutsu in the world, the manga has never said that the power of the rinnegan comes from the use of puppets, if you can find that somewhere i will stand corrected but from what the manga has told us the power comes from the user of the rinnegan, not the bodies he yields, how else would he get dead bodies if he couldnt kill the person himself??? and hey does anyone else think that if nagato escapes, he might use hanzou and jman's bodies???

Kakuza not ''Zabuza''.......

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

haha my bad, just woke up so im a lil out of it still

 

[BAN_KAI]

I was just wondering why Naruto didnt use that combination jutsu like in 96-97 episode he could do that with Gama boss and he only has TRS with long range

 

[cjoe7]

no its nagato's jutsu, its like with zabuza, he had to take hearts from living people, he couldnt take dead ones because there is no chakra left in the body, the rinnegan allows the user to use all 6 nature elements like an expert, and every jutsu in the world, the manga has never said that the power of the rinnegan comes from the use of puppets, if you can find that somewhere i will stand corrected but from what the manga has told us the power comes from the user of the rinnegan, not the bodies he yields, how else would he get dead bodies if he couldnt kill the person himself??? and hey does anyone else think that if nagato escapes, he might use hanzou and jman's bodies???

Kakuzu INTEGRATED the hearts and thus the nature's of their former hosts. The only thing that connects Negato to the bodies he controls are the shakra sticks. As YeS_I_AM just stated, negato CANNOT absorb ninjutsu, or perform summons... or anything else... he doesn't possess that kekkei genkai on his own.

I have already said that the rinnegan was a powerful art on his own and that's why he might've been able to conquer the original ninja he now uses as puppets. But for more advanced ninja like Kakashi, Sanin, Akatsuki members etc. he would have to employ the 6 field of vision and utilize the puppet art of the rinnegan. That's the ONLY way he was able to BEAT Hanzo.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Pain has said that he created the akatsuki in order to bring peace. Please tell me if I am wrong, hasn't Madara also said that he founded the Akatsuki?

That means that at some point they can fight over leadership.

 

[Avani]

Anyway, this whole peace talking makes me think that nagato will be the one who will join naruto(I KNOW THIS SOUNDS F*CKING CRAZY) we all know how great naruto is and that he has the power to change people so to achieve his masters goal he might forgive nagato! That would proof that he is better than just taking revenge ! Nagato will help him in the end somehow, he will see that naruto would bring peace to the world as hokage and he will understand how foolish his way of peace was and finally he will help him!
I DONT KNOW HOW THIS COULD LOOK LIKE IN THE MANGA BUT THATS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE !

PEACE

I hope so. The only person who was negatively influenced be Naruto was Kabuto-

Rest of them come to see light. (he has failed so far with Sasuke too. But, that Uchiha kid needs to go real bad in order to turn good.)

 

[Avani]

I think Nagato's idea of peace by giving power is not that crazy. For example, in real life, nations like the USA and Russia had a Cold War but no one fire the first shot because both side knew that a nuclear war will destroy both sides. Unlike the war between USA and Iraq, Iraq didn't have nuclear power and the USA didn't see a real threat and so USA started the war. But if Iraq had nuclear bomb in the first place I don't think the USA would have risk a real nuclear war. Because Iraq was a small nation with out the ultimate power(or nuclear bomb) USA didn't care and pawned them. USA didn't dare to touch Korea and Iran because they have the ultimate power.

So, Nagato's idea is to give every nation the ultimate power to prevent war. But his idea is a little strange because he said that war will happen and peace will follow. I'm a little confuse on his idea because even without him there will always be war and peace. I think someone messed up the translation from the raw.

Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

The war happnned. Peace followed till now.

 

[Avani]

Pain has said that he created the akatsuki in order to bring peace. Please tell me if I am wrong, hasn't Madara also said that he founded the Akatsuki?

That means that at some point they can fight over leadership.

Itachi said that Madara founded Akatsuki and hid himself in its shadows.

Madara was always cunning. He probably let Pain think that he was founding it- he certainly let him be the leader. There can be more than one person founding a single organisation. Konoha was founded by Senju and Madara both- both are founding fathers.

I agree about fight for leadership in Akasuki- If Nagato doesn't switch side and succeeds. If the weapon is ready then Madara will like to take things in his hands. Right now he is happy letting him others do the dirty work.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

I think Nagato's idea of peace by giving power is not that crazy. For example, in real life, nations like the USA and Russia had a Cold War but no one fire the first shot because both side knew that a nuclear war will destroy both sides. .

They did not fight in their own countries, they chose other countries as battlefields. (to test weapons and so on).

Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

The war happnned. Peace followed till now.

No, it didnt. War took place at other locations US and Russia chose for several decades, they chose different countries as battlefields to show who had the biggest ...err.... weapon, with the excuse of Comunism vs Democracy.

Your peace was based on the war of others, just as Pain said: his place was the battlefield.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Itachi said that Madara founded Akatsuki and hid himself in its shadows.

Madara was always cunning. He probably let Pain think that he was founding it- he certainly let him be the leader. There can be more than one person founding a single organisation. Konoha was founded by Senju and Madara both- both are founding fathers.

In the Konoha case, they both said it was founded by both clans. Problem in Akatsuki is that Pain and Madara believe to be the only founder.

 

[Avani]

I was just wondering why Naruto didnt use that combination jutsu like in 96-97 episode he could do that with Gama boss and he only has TRS with long range

IDK but, probably because that's anime thing and not included in manga...

 

[Avani]

They did not fight in their own countries, they chose other countries as battlefields. (to test weapons and so on).



No, it didnt. War took place at other locations US and Russia chose for several decades, they chose different countries as battlefields to show who had the biggest ...err.... weapon, with the excuse of Comunism vs Democracy.

Your peace was based on the war of others, just as Pain said: his place was the battlefield.

I was referring to the general idea. And that's the whole point(what you said about cold war) . A weapon of Mass distruction - Pain's weapon is not going to guarantee peace either.

As I said before - it is just the ideas. It is not that Kishi is writing a histroical manga.