[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

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Many people get confused in my opionion (not your case here). They assume that having EMS means you have eternal life. It just means you have EMS until you die. So they say "Madara is alive as he has EMS".

Why on Earth Madara has not died, I can't tell. But I suspect some sort of body transfer like Oro (who was a member of Akatsuki), or of heart transfer, something like that.
I'm not exactly sure why, either, but I'm guessing having the EMS supposedly makes you almost as immortal as Hidan. I think Itachi stated Madara was an indestructible immortal, or something like that. I don't know if/why he believed it, but that's what he said, isn't it? (I guess if he really thought this way, it would've been stupid to give Sasuke the Amaterasu trigger.)
 

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As I read through the posts I haven't read, I noticed a bunch of the posts I would've replied to were already replied to as I would have replied. I'll still try to go back a little ways and state my opinions, since the time I am able to get online is getting very short. I'll start with an opposing thought against Arse-onius... (I'm just kidding. Geez!) I think you said the Sharingan can see through shadow clones... I still don't think they can actually tell the difference if they're just standing there doing nothing. About the Byakugon: I don't think it's limited to seeing just chakra inside of people. That wouldn't make sense. It can see chakra, period. Wherever it is. I'll think about it a little bit to see if I can give you any proof. Stay tuned for more fast paced opinioning. (I know. That's probably not a word.)
Just wait until I get my computer back. I will be a force to be reckoned with then! :D I feel so limited on this phone. :( I eagerly await your proof of Byakugan seeing chakra outside of a person.
 

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*Yeah. I don't think body flicker is just a short ranged tech, due to the fact he got back to Kakashi and Rin. *Are you SURE that's what Flying Thunder God tech is? I don't think it is. Please, if I'm wrong, tell me how you know. I don't remember anybody describing FTG and how it works. *I think the special kunais were just like a text message service. Once they're thrown, they alert Minato of the location that there's asistance needed.
I don't actualy mean FTG. Under this name I mean the blodline limit of Minato. His teleporting Jutsu. The seals on his specials kunais weren't there for fun you know. The way I see it he teleported to kakashi cuz he had the kunai with the seal.
And body flicker can be done by anyone. It is an accelerated movement at high speed. And minatos jutsu was a teleport to the special seal wherever it is in a blink of an eye.
 

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I'm not exactly sure why, either, but I'm guessing having the EMS supposedly makes you almost as immortal as Hidan. I think Itachi stated Madara was an indestructible immortal, or something like that. I don't know if/why he believed it, but that's what he said, isn't it? (I guess if he really thought this way, it would've been stupid to give Sasuke the Amaterasu trigger.)
It is a mystery why isn't madara ded yet. EMS is just an advanced version of MS that doesen't hurt the eyes of it's user. Maybe it has some secret powers too.
 

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I'm not exactly sure why, either, but I'm guessing having the EMS supposedly makes you almost as immortal as Hidan. I think Itachi stated Madara was an indestructible immortal, or something like that. I don't know if/why he believed it, but that's what he said, isn't it? (I guess if he really thought this way, it would've been stupid to give Sasuke the Amaterasu trigger.)
Yes, I see your point, but he also said Madara was a shell of his former self.

The point is that Itachi never said Madara was alive because of the Eternal M. Sharingan.

Just wait until I get my computer back. I will be a force to be reckoned with then! :D I feel so limited on this phone. :( I eagerly await your proof of Byakugan seeing chakra outside of a person.
I've never seen it either, Hinata always scans for points of chackra to find out if someone is there and she sees them inside a body (including animals).
 
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Yes, I see your point, but he also said Madara was a shell of his former self.

The point is that Itachi never said Madara was alive because of the Eternal M. Sharingan.
If madara was just a shell of his former self he couldn't be the leader of akatsuki. And he sure is. He is running the organisation from the shadow. Maybe he just wanted all the others to believe it is relly so. And us too btw.LoL
 

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I wonder if anyone can help me with my doubt:

How can Naruto recognize the chackra of people when in sage mode, without having the previous experience of knowin which chackra belongs to which person?

When he says he cannot feel Kakashi's chakra... How could he know? He had never felt it before, he should have felt it at least once before in his life to recognize it.
 

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If madara was just a shell of his former self he couldn't be the leader of akatsuki. And he sure is. He is running the organisation from the shadow. Maybe he just wanted all the others to believe it is relly so. And us too btw.LoL
Itachi said madara was a shell of his former self... which means Madara was far more powerful in the past, not that he has no more powers.

And maybe he was refering to his appearance rather than his abilities.

Madara was the founder, as Godfather, who had no extra abilities, was not the strongest guy in the world but was able to rule over the mafia. A founder usually rules.
 
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Kakuzu told us that there is no such thing as true immortality. And Itachi told us that Madara is only a shell of his former self. I think Madara is a human puppet like Sasori was. I think Madara is planing to posses Sasuke's body like Oro did.

If Madara is indeed a human puppet then he should still have the Uchiha powers and powers like that of Sasori and Kakuzu. Or maybe Madara could be like Kakuzu with a bunch of hearts.

Madara could even have a Byakugan eye in his left side or maybe a Rinagan eye because Madara has been around for so long and is power hungry.

Comments are welcome on Madara's 'mortality'.
 

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I wonder if anyone can help me with my doubt:

How can Naruto recognize the chackra of people when in sage mode, without having the previous experience of knowin which chackra belongs to which person?

When he says he cannot feel Kakashi's chakra... How could he know? He had never felt it before, he should have felt it at least once before in his life to recognize it.
He had this expirience at the mountain. Pa and Ma frog also had chakra so he could practice.

I can't understand somthing too. The vanishing which kakashi and loads of other charcters used...how can they do that? I mean if everyone can do it and its not a forbidden jutsu of some sort( obviously its not) then how come the ninjas just "poof" away when they have to escape or "poof" to any destenation point they have to go to?

There are many questions about naruto. These are the result of a small Kishi's mix-up.

However, other questions such as Minatos abilities, secrets of uchiha madara and othetrs are a big mystery. And only Kishi himself knows the answers to them.

And he will answer them, but only in next chapters of manga. All we can dois wait...
 

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Kakuzu told us that there is no such thing as true immortality. And Itachi told us that Madara is only a shell of his former self. I think Madara is a human puppet like Sasori was. I think Madara is planing to posses Sasuke's body like Oro did.
I also tend to think he wants SAsuke body. But there's another possibility: it was Madara's goal to kill the Uchinas in revenge for their rejecting his ideas about their right to be Hokages in Konoha, and he has failed in this goal as long as Sasuke remains alive.

He may be in need of new eyes, because of his age, and take the chance to absolutely finish the clan by murdering Sasuke and getting his eyes.
 

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He had this expirience at the mountain. Pa and Ma frog also had chakra so he could practice.
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Then he could recognize Ma and Pa`s chakra, because he was able to experience what they were like.

But when he was summoned to Konoha in sage mode by the frogs, he had never been in sage mode in Konoha and getting to learn each person's chakra. How could he recognize Sakura's, Neiji's, Shikamaru's, etc, if he had never sensed them before?

In order to recognize a person you must first be introduced, so I guess you need to be "introduced" to someone's chakra in order to recognize it.

I can't understand somthing too. The vanishing which kakashi and loads of other charcters used...how can they do that? I mean if everyone can do it and its not a forbidden jutsu of some sort( obviously its not) then how come the ninjas just "poof" away when they have to escape or "poof" to any destenation point they have to go to?
They vanish because they are clones. When a clone releases the jutsu, they vanish and then the real ninja gets to know eveything the clone saw or heard. Kakashi usually makes use of a clone in order to check his oponent's abilities, and then real Kakashi comes into the fight.
 
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Kakuzu told us that there is no such thing as true immortality. And Itachi told us that Madara is only a shell of his former self. I think Madara is a human puppet like Sasori was. I think Madara is planing to posses Sasuke's body like Oro did.

If Madara is indeed a human puppet then he should still have the Uchiha powers and powers like that of Sasori and Kakuzu. Or maybe Madara could be like Kakuzu with a bunch of hearts.

Madara could even have a Byakugan eye in his left side or maybe a Rinagan eye because Madara has been around for so long and is power hungry.

Comments are welcome on Madara's 'mortality'.
Personally I think that all those variants are possible, but kishi wouldn't write something like this. He won't repeat(or resemble) the destinies and powers of Kakuzu, Sasori, Pain, the Hyuga clan... However Madara has a secret thats for sure. As well as Pain. I think the user of rinnengan Nagato has a lot more powers than controling dead bodies and implanting them with suoer techs. The true power of rinnengan is unrevealed...
 

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Then he could recognize Ma and Pa`s chakra, because he was able to experience what they were like.

But when he was summoned to Konoha in sage mode by the frogs, he had never been in sage mode in Konoha and getting to learn each person's chakra. How could he recognize Sakura's, Neiji's, Shikamaru's, etc, if he had never sensed them before?

In order to recognize a person you must first be introduced, so I guess you need to be "introduced" to someone's chakra in order to recognize it.
That's true. I don't have a clue how he was able to do it. And what do you about the "poof" jutsu? How is this possible???
 

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They vanish because they are clones. When a clone releases the jutsu, they vanish and then the real ninja gets to know eveything the clone saw or heard. Kakashi usually makes use of a clone in order to check his oponent's abilities, and then real Kakashi comes into the fight.
That's not what I mean. We saw a million times situations like this. Kakashi reads a book while talking to naruto, than he says " I've got to go. See you" and then dissapears. That's what I mean.
 

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That's not what I mean. We saw a million times situations like this. Kakashi reads a book while talking to naruto, than he says " I've got to go. See you" and then dissapears. That's what I mean.
Oh, I see! Sorry, should watch those parts again. Maybe their own reverse summoning? THere's still the possibility that they were clones, though. Maybe Kakashi sent a clone to read his favorite novel while he was training in order not to waste time, and the clone released the jutsu for Kakashi to know what happened in the last chapter :D
 
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Oh, I see! Sorry, should watch those parts again. Maybe their own reverse summoning? THere's still the possibility that they were clones, though. Maybe Kakashi sent a clone to read his favorite novel while he was training in order not to waste time, and the clone released the jutsu for Kakashi to know what happened in the last chapter :D
Ops! Sorry! I just watched through some chapters of manga and got it!!!The disapearing I am talking about was only showed in anime!!! There isn't such a thing in manga! If you watched anime you must know what I am talking about.
 

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Ops! Sorry! I just watched through some chapters of manga and got it!!!The disapearing I am talking about was only showed in anime!!! There isn't such a thing in manga! If you watched anime you must know what I am talking about.

It happens in the manga too. Some people say it is body flicker, I say they lie. The truth of the matter is that it is all about speed. Kakashi is one of the fastest ninja, probarbly just behind Madara and Itachi. I think sauske is getting faster, but its hard to say how fast he is because he really hasn't battled anyone who is really fast yet. I know someone is going to bring up Killer Bee, so let me say this now, all Killer Bee did was block or take attacks. He didn't do much dodging, so you can't use him as an example.
 

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*Yeah. I don't think body flicker is just a short ranged tech, due to the fact he got back to Kakashi and Rin. *Are you SURE that's what Flying Thunder God tech is? I don't think it is. Please, if I'm wrong, tell me how you know. I don't remember anybody describing FTG and how it works. *I think the special kunais were just like a text message service. Once they're thrown, they alert Minato of the location that there's asistance needed.
Can you tell me the chapter about Minato used body flicker or whatever to kakashi and Rin? thank you
 
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