[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

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Hmm- Naruto's weapon....

He has his Kunais and he turns wind into Shuricane. Maybe he doesn't like extra baggage. And If he learns anything from KB He may use a sword... But probaly they won't give him weapons since they haven't done it already. He got a scroll like Jiraiya. and Minato didn't carry any special weapon either, I think.
ARE you talking about the other tread NARUTO WEAPON ?
 

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Its okay m8, some people like to get off topic completely from what the thread is supposed to be about. its 436 Predictions/435 Discussion....not Future of Naruto Manga Predictions/Discussions...

some people like going off on tangents that are directly irrelevent to the subject, although if they thought things through more carefully and posted as Arisonius, Ssanimo, and some others(srry if i didnt list) do, this thread would be more interesting and we would honestly GET SOMEWHERE...
 
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I think Naruto will beat Pain after he told his life story at least I think that?s what kishi is planning.
He is killing a lot of good characters though.

I think ma will summon the last kb and once that happened Naruto will beat Pain cause don?t forget the kb?s he created are helping him in this battle but are also slowing him down.
It?s the same reason he can?t create more than 2 kb?s cause if he would, he would lose his grip on the kb?s that are in sage mode.
Meaning he?s not fighting on his full strenght jet and once the last kb is reverse summoned he will be able to use his multy kb?s and unleash a destructing attack on the last Pain.

And after that they are probably gonna go after the real Pain who by the way isn?t Nagato this became clear during his fight with Jiraiya.
He thought he was fighting Nagato but started doubting that towards the end of the battle.
Before his death he found out who he really but could speak because of the pipes that destroyed his throat.
 
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And after that they are probably gonna go after the real Pain who by the way isn?t Nagato this became clear during his fight with Jiraiya.
He thought he was fighting Nagato but started doubting that towards the end of the battle.
Before his death he found out who he really but could speak because of the pipes that destroyed his throat.

Dude, to clarify some points:

1- the 6 Paths of Pein is a JUTSU done by NAGATO...NAGATO is controlling them from inside the Dead-Memorial-Tower in Amegakure.

2- Jiraiya figured out that Nagato was controlling them from an outside source and that the 6 paths of Pein is just a jutsu done by controlling dead bodies using chakra receivers. Unfortunately, Jiraiya/J-Man figured it out too late...by that time he was already as good as dead, he could've escaped however, but his days as a ninja were through, his arm was blown off and he was repeatedly stabbed...then he had his throat crushed...then he resurrected himself by sheer will-power to send a dying message, after-which he was repeatedly stabbed through the back again and slipped into the water.

Jiraiya didn't think he was fighting Nagato after he saw Yahiko Pein's face, he began to think that when he only thought there were three Rinnegan users, but three more (Including Yahiko Pein) were introduced, hence The 6 Paths. He thought Yahiko had stolen the Rinnegan from Nagato, but he discharged that idea quickly after he discovered that all the bodies Pein was using, Jiraiya had battled before while they were alive...from this he discerned that they were dead bodies, and the piercings were chakra receivers(which he found out after he got stabbed the first time and his chakra went haywire because Nagato's chakra was being introduced into his system through the receiver).
 
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IAnd after that they are probably gonna go after the real Pain who by the way isn?t Nagato this became clear during his fight with Jiraiya.
He thought he was fighting Nagato but started doubting that towards the end of the battle.
Before his death he found out who he really but could speak because of the pipes that destroyed his throat.
I am trying to remember if Naruto had killed anybody directly till now? I mean they fell of the cliff or Kakashi puts a final end to them etc, or they commit suicide but not die finally from his hands..

I wonder if Nagato will end up just seeing the light and change sides. Or die by over use of Shinera tensi.

Jiraiya could sense Nagato's chakra all the time and yet couldn't see him. It did seem that he had finally come to a conclusion , but he like all manga character decided to inform pain about it and as soon as pain heard that Jiraiay understood, he cut his throat. NOt very smart thing to think aloud....
 

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ahsan... you really think so?

Sasuke has been MIND-F***ED by Madara...he's not going to help Konoha anytime soon.


Besides, he won't be Pro-Konoha until Itachi makes his re-appearance through Itachi's gift when Naruto fights against Sasuke again. Its probably a counter to Amaterasu, combined with a message to tell Sasuke the real deal, not the load of crap Madara told him.
 

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still dont knw y u guys r against sasuke so much
HE WILL SAVE NARUTO ULL ALL SEE HE WONT LET ITACHI DOWN HE WILL PROTECT KONOHA!!!!!!
I agree, he cares about Naruto since he lost the cursed seal. I don't know if he'll do it for Konoha's or Itachi's sake, but it did move him to remember about Team 7.

How will he react when he learns about Kakashi?
 

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ahsan... you really think so?

Sasuke has been MIND-F***ED by Madara...he's not going to help Konoha anytime soon.


Besides, he won't be Pro-Konoha until Itachi makes his re-appearance through Itachi's gift when Naruto fights against Sasuke again. Its probably a counter to Amaterasu, combined with a message to tell Sasuke the real deal, not the load of crap Madara told him.
You're wrong on that one. He was mind f.... by Itachi, who had told him:

I did this to prove myself I could do it.
You don't deserve to be killed.
You must kill your closest friend.
I will fight against you when you have my eyes.

THen he tortured him with a flashback that took 3 days to be get off him.
He pretended to want to get his eyes.

After all that, he tells Naruto "SAsuke can be coloured by anything". Of course, man! Your method was too extreme!
 

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Dude, to clarify some points:

1- the 6 Paths of Pein is a JUTSU done by NAGATO...NAGATO is controlling them from inside the Dead-Memorial-Tower in Amegakure.

2- Jiraiya figured out that Nagato was controlling them from an outside source and that the 6 paths of Pein is just a jutsu done by controlling dead bodies using chakra receivers. Unfortunately, Jiraiya/J-Man figured it out too late...by that time he was already as good as dead, he could've escaped however, but his days as a ninja were through, his arm was blown off and he was repeatedly stabbed...then he had his throat crushed...then he resurrected himself by sheer will-power to send a dying message, after-which he was repeatedly stabbed through the back again and slipped into the water.

Jiraiya didn't think he was fighting Nagato after he saw Yahiko Pein's face, he began to think that when he only thought there were three Rinnegan users, but three more (Including Yahiko Pein) were introduced, hence The 6 Paths. He thought Yahiko had stolen the Rinnegan from Nagato, but he discharged that idea quickly after he discovered that all the bodies Pein was using, Jiraiya had battled before while they were alive...from this he discerned that they were dead bodies, and the piercings were chakra receivers(which he found out after he got stabbed the first time and his chakra went haywire because Nagato's chakra was being introduced into his system through the receiver).
agreed......however he(kakashi uchiha) did bring up a good point in regards to naruto's KB and his ability to fight at full potential once clone is dispersed.....and for his first post at NB.......not to shabby

P.S many thnx for the honorable mention in prior post..........you both get reps:D
 

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I think Naruto will beat Pain after he told his life story at least I think that?s what kishi is planning.
He is killing a lot of good characters though.

I think ma will summon the last kb and once that happened Naruto will beat Pain cause don?t forget the kb?s he created are helping him in this battle but are also slowing him down.
It?s the same reason he can?t create more than 2 kb?s cause if he would, he would lose his grip on the kb?s that are in sage mode.
Meaning he?s not fighting on his full strenght jet and once the last kb is reverse summoned he will be able to use his multy kb?s and unleash a destructing attack on the last Pain.

And after that they are probably gonna go after the real Pain who by the way isn?t Nagato this became clear during his fight with Jiraiya.
He thought he was fighting Nagato but started doubting that towards the end of the battle.
Before his death he found out who he really but could speak because of the pipes that destroyed his throat.
I didnt thought about that nice theory and welcome to NB
 

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well how do u knw hes not screwin with madara like he did with oro???
do u really think sasuke sharigan cud hav been fooled by KBs deception when he was fakin tht he had been knocked out????
secondly thts the only way for a major war to start sasuke comint okonoha and takin their side then the lightening country will be against them and the war will start and naruto will become famous

as for sasuke he has not killed any1 uptill now who didnt deserve dieing
so what if he has gone a bit out of his way???so did itachi and he was a good guy like id been tryin to tell every1 on othersites and no one believed me ive a gut feeling tht sasuke will save naruto and konoha whether its now or whether they take naruto back to extract 9 tails but he wills ave him
 

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You're wrong on that one. He was mind f.... by Itachi, who had told him:

I did this to prove myself I could do it.
You don't deserve to be killed.
You must kill your closest friend.
I will fight against you when you have my eyes.

THen he tortured him with a flashback that took 3 days to be get off him.
He pretended to want to get his eyes.

After all that, he tells Naruto "SAsuke can be coloured by anything". Of course, man! Your method was too extreme!
at that point, Sasuke we already driven by revenge and too blind to see that Itachi was on a completely higher level than he was when he put Sasuke under Tsukyomi, it was just to show him that he needed to become stronger.

After he killed Itachi (barely), Sasuke thought he did the right thing, but Madara stepped in and said that Itachi was a saviour to Konoha, and f***ed with his head: resulting in Sasuke's "New-Found Love" for his late-Brother...and his vengeance against Konoha for "making Itachi kill the clan"

If you want to get technical, he's been mind-f***ed all his life, but he was pushed over the edge by Madara, who told him that the man he wanted revenge on was not his enemy, but a saviour...and that his clan had become corrupted and planned a coup d'?tat against Konoha.

Madara turned his entire world upside-down.
 

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well how do u knw hes not screwin with madara like he did with oro???
do u really think sasuke sharigan cud hav been fooled by KBs deception when he was fakin tht he had been knocked out????
secondly thts the only way for a major war to start sasuke comint okonoha and takin their side then the lightening country will be against them and the war will start and naruto will become famous

as for sasuke he has not killed any1 uptill now who didnt deserve dieing
so what if he has gone a bit out of his way???so did itachi and he was a good guy like id been tryin to tell every1 on othersites and no one believed me ive a gut feeling tht sasuke will save naruto and konoha whether its now or whether they take naruto back to extract 9 tails but he wills ave him
eventually he will, but this relationship between Sasuke and Naruto is similar to the relationship between Vegeta and Goku. ( I loved that show )

Right now, imagine Sasuke as Majin-Vegeta, overpowered for his own good and corrupted. It'll take a big Wake-Up Call from a loved one to snap him out of it (like kid-Trunks did during Vegeta's time as Majin-Vegeta)

Kishi and co. are basically using the DBZ storyline, but mixing it up to create their own version.

If you look at this:

Naruto: Sage Mode is basically the equivalent to SSJ (He can further it)
Naruto: Kyuubi is basically the equivalent of the Ape-Transformation

Sasuke: Sharingan is basically the equivalent of being the Prince of Saiyans
Sasuke: Mangekyou Sharingan is basically the equivalent of Vegeta's SSJ

I'm making this vague, but eventually I may go into detail later.
I want your input on this, thats why its vague.



To get to the point:

Eventually Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura will work together as a team to defeat the next major villain...or the one after that, depending on the plot.

If you think differently, please state why, how, and what you're basing your theory on. thanks =D
 

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at that point, Sasuke we already driven by revenge and too blind to see that Itachi was on a completely higher level than he was when he put Sasuke under Tsukyomi, it was just to show him that he needed to become stronger.

After he killed Itachi (barely), Sasuke thought he did the right thing, but Madara stepped in and said that Itachi was a saviour to Konoha, and f***ed with his head: resulting in Sasuke's "New-Found Love" for his late-Brother...and his vengeance against Konoha for "making Itachi kill the clan"

If you want to get technical, he's been mind-f***ed all his life, but he was pushed over the edge by Madara, who told him that the man he wanted revenge on was not his enemy, but a saviour...and that his clan had become corrupted and planned a coup d'?tat against Konoha.

Madara turned his entire world upside-down.
AT that point? Only my last quote is from the fight between them. The first four are from when Sasuke was 8! Itachi told him that after murdering the clan. And it was when Sasuke was 12 that he tortured him by making him remember the night of the murder for 3 days.

Which means Itachi was responsible for his f---d up mind.

People love Itachi and they do not want to accept the fact that Sasuke was just a jealous 4-year old child in the beginning, at that it was Itachi you turned him mad. However, I don't hate Itachi: he was only 13 when he was ordered to kill the clan, what other plan could he come out with?

Manga referece:

Mangas 224-225, which means Sasuke was a child.

I said he said "to prove myself", Real words were "to measure my capacity":



Kill your closes friend, plus that he had played the good big brother role:;



Killing you, worthless, plus ordering him to "curse me, hate me, live a long unsightly life.... and some day when you have the same eyes as me, come before me":

 
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AT that point? Only my last quote is from the fight between them. The first four are from when Sasuke was 8! Itachi told him that after murdering the clan. And it was when Sasuke was 12 that he tortured him by making him remember the night of the murder for 3 days.

Which means Itachi was responsible for his f---d up mind.
Which is why Sasuke wanted his revenge. So much so that he sought power from Orochimaru, left the village, and fought Itachi to the best of his abilities.


But imagine, one man convincing you that you just killed the good guy.
 

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Yes they are, why is it that every post you make has to be rated 5-Stars?...Always with the in-depth and focused arguments...very impressive.

now, how can Naruto get out of this situation, he can't use Sage Mode anymore, his own chakra is on the fritz. But think about this, if his own Chakra is on the fritz, wouldn't the Kyuubi's chakra be ready to boil out of the kettle?...He's already losing to his own emotions, he was unable to stop Fukusaku from death by shish-kebab, all the pain and destruction the 6 Paths of Pein has brought upon Konoha is now Naruto's burden to bear, his friends are injured, his hometown annihilated, Kakashi INCAPACITATED, Jiraiya killed, Tsunade on the verge of collapse, Naruto can only keep these emotions in for so long until he finally..........


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what are your thoughts on this Arisonius? I value your input bro
Sorry it took so long fcor me o answer. I'm busy as a Killa Bee trying t post in three threads an bend over for my job. =/

Anywho, I don't think we will see any more sage mode from Naruto, and I don't think we will see Kyuubi from him either, just yet. The way I see it, Naruto has one option left to him: His friends.

Lets think about this for a moment. Lets say Ma Frog summons Naruto's last kage bushin and dispells it. Chakra is disrupted by Pein's Sword, wasted move.

Lets say Kyuubi starts to come out and for SOME REASON (though I think it would be ) it isn't disrupted like the rest of Narutos chakra. Pein is keeping a close eye on Naruto right now, he would see this and crush Naruto into unconciousness. Lets be honest here, if you can't capture the last Kyuubi, why even bother capturing the first.

So then, who is left? His friends.

Every single last ninja in Konoha is going to help Naruto that is able, and ever single last ninja is going to get their asses handed to them one by one by Pein. Naruto, unable to do anything about this, is going to have to watch. He's going to come to the reaization that once he was feared by the entire village, now they are all trying their best to defend him. Not because they need him, but because they want them.

athis of course I all going to hbappen AFTER the next chater becase that's going to be nothing but talk.

Then, finally; as Kishi had said, tsunande in her weakened state is going to blast Pein in the face, take the sword from Naruto's hands, and is then going to get mortally wounded by Pein, with Naruto watching.

Then Naruto will start to glow red, look around at all the shinobi who just fought to protect him, and growl "Everyone, GET BACK."

Next time: Bad Boy, Bad Boy, Watcha gonna do, wtacha gonna do when he comes for you?! NARUTO ON THE RAMPAGE!
 

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I don't buy the whole: Demonic Kyuubi Sage Cloak.

Here's the thing: Sage mode requires you keeping all four types of chakra in equilibrium. That is the reason Naruto has kept his emotions in check until this point.

The trigger for the Demoniv Fox Cloak is Naruto's emotions: Fear, ANGER, Desperation.

As soon as the cloak is revealed, even without any tails, we begin to see Naruto transform, if only very slightly.

We know that Naruto is about the able to surpress the Kyuubi chakra by calming down and focusing. However, he loses all facets of the demonic cloak at this time.

That being said, What does Naruto have to do in order to get into sage mode? Calm down and Focus.

What does he have to do in order to activate Kyuubi? Get worked up and angry.

It seems that these two "modes" are completely contradictory to one another in regards to their activation.
The problem is not that he cannot eventually master the kyubii. The real problem is that, so far, the kyubii has released itself, when Naruto's will was low from fear or anger. That does not mean that Naruto can release the kyubi with only those emotions, he was never looking for it, for the 4 tails, just for the 1 tails.

But once Naruto learns to control his feelings (like feeling paralyzed before Sasuke from the emotion of finding him), and once he decides he should be able to control the kyubii in case it gets released to avoid further damage, he will control it.
 
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