The Overrating Of Rinnegan Obito

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What feats has Obito shown with Rinnegan besides summoning Gedo Mazo & controlling the 6 paths. He has shown no mastery over nothing else that the Rinnegan has to offer.

He has not mastered all of the chakra natures as Nagato did. He has not shown the ability of 6 way field vision with his 6 paths as Nagato did. The only reason Nagato had such mastery of it was because he had over a decade to do so. Obito JUST got the rinnegan after defeating Konan and everyone is all Obito with rinnegan can beat blah blah blah. Its the SAME Obito except he can summon Gedo Mazo and use paths. He has NO mastery over rinnegan. He has NONE of Nagatos powers just because he has the eye he had. If he did he wouldn't have let Naruto Guy & Kakashi push him to the point he's at now.

So all these Obito with rinnegan threads are useless until he shows some mastery or at least the ability to use its powers.

Basically what im saying is he is the same old Obito that we've been seeing except he can summon a huge statue and has 6 jinchuuriki rinnegan-sharingan comrades.

So whoever Obito could and couldn't beat BEFORE he got that eye its still the same way. Some might say he can summon Gedo Mazo in a fight now so its different and his 6paths. Take them out of the equation (Obito wont use them in every fight) hes same old Obito who fought Minato a while ago. No new jutsus we know of. Just a new eye.

OT : Madara has very little mastery to no mastery of rinnegan since he discovered it on his death bed. If it shows him using more than 2 chakra natures in the kage fight than please post pics :D
 

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They have their eyes through him yes. But have they shown being able to use the powers in those eyes like Nagatos paths did? Nope, thats because Obito doesn't have the eyes abilities mastered.
 

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i agree i made a thread th eother day saying if tobi is so strong then why is it since the start of the fight he has been loosing

- his mask
-his jins

and his whole point of the war was to get naruto and bee but he cant even do that with them right in front of him granted he is fighting 4 on one but you get my point

he was even forced back so far he had to attemtp to summon some fake incomplete tentails
 

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You are misinformed ..

The 6 way vision is in affect with his paths. im not going to post the manga page but bee and naruto compllained about it for half the fight.
And he does have human path as he tried to rip naruto's soul on multiple occasions

Its taken some of the most powerful people in the manga's best effort only to break his mask -__- . he isnt overrated
 

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Dude, Gedo Mazo and the tailed beast plus his space time and Senju DNA is the whole reason why he is so OP. All that Preta path, Asura path stuff is pure bullshit. Obito doesn't need those techniques. With his arsenal, his whole fighting style is based around overwhelming his opponent and catching them off guard. No one's overrating shit.
 

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Agree but he still beats a lot of people with kamui
 

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Also, Obito's paths>Nagato's paths by far given that they are Edo and that they have more fire power in terms of ninjutsu techniques. Not to mention they can go V2 form.
 

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If the 6 way vision was in affect why were his paths defeated so easily? Maybe because Obito doesnt have mastery over the 6 way vision yet? & I thought that was him trying to take Kurama out from Naruto. Naruto is different from the other jinchuurikis. His tailed beast doesnt have a physical form he is just chakra. I think Obito is trying to rip out the nine tails and it looks that way because nine tails has no physical form anymore.
 

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I have to agree with most of your points.
Yes, Obito is currently being overrated.
In this war he has just been losing everything he started with.
However, in no way am I saying he is weak. Even without a Rinnegan he is one of the strongest and most well informed characters in the manga.
 

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Maybe more firepower but more ninjutsu? Nagato has the potential to master every ninjutsu with rinnegan. That is given to his paths because they are shown in the naruto fight using all natures. Meaning Nagatos arsenal with jutsu is wide ranged and across every chakra nature at that.
 

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You are misinformed ..

The 6 way vision is in affect with his paths. im not going to post the manga page but bee and naruto compllained about it for half the fight.
And he does have human path as he tried to rip naruto's soul on multiple occasions

Its taken some of the most powerful people in the manga's best effort only to break his mask -__- . he isnt overrated

only to brake his mask

they broke his mask
took out his paths which were jins all of them
forced him to call the incomplete tentails against his will

they did much more then just brake his mask

oh and fyi id it was for plot no jutsu he would be dead from a rasengan to the face and if it wast for zetsu parts he would not have use of one of his sholders and arms right now so no hand signs for obito

yes he is powerful and one on one would crush ppl but dont act like he is wining or even close to wining this fight

again if it wasnt for pnj he would be dead and if it wasnt for madara showing up he would be getting pushed back and beat still

obito better thanks madara
 

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No im not calling him weak, but hes the same Obito that fought with Minato. As far as we know he doesn't train and didn't learn any new jutsu. So if you take away rinnegan its the same Obito that fought Minato except he's older now.
 

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No one overrates him he just that strong, yes he hasn't shown any kind of mastery of rinnegan like Nagato, but he took on BM naruto, bee, kakashi and guy that's enough for me to make a clear assumption of his power
 

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Kakashi said it takes a lot chakra just to control Tailed Beast, too much chakra that he couldn't use Rinnengan techniques along with it. It's the reason why you don't see him using Rinnengan techniques right now, especially when you know that he concentrate already to reform and controll the Juubi
 

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I'm not calling him weak ! But think about this. What ONE technique has kept him alive this whole time? KAMUI. NOTHING from Rinnegan has he used. & Hes not "taking them on" hes barely staying alive because he doesnt have the arsenal really fight them (ninjutsu - taijutsu) All of the 4 hes fighting is better at those two than him except Guy who has no ninjutsu.
 

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No one overrates him he just that strong, yes he hasn't shown any kind of mastery of rinnegan like Nagato, but he took on BM naruto, bee, kakashi and guy that's enough for me to make a clear assumption of his power

he took on....you act like its over and as i said he hasnt taken on anything as he has been loosing this whoooooole time
 

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He has uchiha blood and the sharingan evolves to the rinnegan so just like sharingan rinnegan shouldnt take a big toll on his body. And what do you think costs more chakra using Kamui to save his tail 1,000 times in a fight or a few jutsu? Its not his chakra reserve its just that he doesnt know the techniques
 

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If the 6 way vision was in affect why were his paths defeated so easily? Maybe because Obito doesnt have mastery over the 6 way vision yet? & I thought that was him trying to take Kurama out from Naruto. Naruto is different from the other jinchuurikis. His tailed beast doesnt have a physical form he is just chakra. I think Obito is trying to rip out the nine tails and it looks that way because nine tails has no physical form anymore.

I think you are getting confused here. The linked vision only applies to the Jinchuriki. Also, the tailed beast weren't even defeated. Obito just sealed them into the Gedo Mazo.

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KM Naruto is easily overwhelmed by Obito. Had it not been for Guy and Kakashi, Naruto would of been in Obito's pocket dimension. No where in the fight has he tried to use Human path. Here, he is trying to make physical contact. Physical contact=game over when you're fighting Obito. Though, he can use Human path when he said he'd use it on Yamato.
 

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I know the vision is shared for paths so im not confused. & no Naruto was not overwhelmed by Obito he was fighting Obito & all 6 of those V2 paths than he almost got caught. And so what he got saved by Kakashi and Guy. If not for Obitos 6 paths he would've been in worse condition than he's in now. & We all know Obito is a liar. He says things to strike fear into peoples hearts. He said he can use the human path. But theres not one page in manga that proves he can.
 
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