The Overrating Of Rinnegan Obito

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Your point is..? He have already stated to use Human path on Yamato to get information about the Kyuubi, but that would kill him. He can use the Rinnegan, but Kishi choose to wait with the Rinnegan until later in the fight.
 

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i think you are getting confused here. The linked vision only applies to the jinchuriki. Also, the tailed beast weren't even defeated. Obito just sealed them into the gedo mazo.

I think you seem to be forgetting this also

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km naruto is easily overwhelmed by obito. Had it not been for guy and kakashi, naruto would of been in obito's pocket dimension. No where in the fight has he tried to use human path. Here, he is trying to make physical contact. Physical contact=game over when you're fighting obito. Though, he can use human path when he said he'd use it on yamato.

why do you thin he pulled them back.....because once the tbb war went down he know he could nto win this way so he decided to try for the tentails without naruto and bee because he could not i repeat could not and still cant get them on his own

agreed one on one he would win and is made strong for sure but the op word is thrown around every time someone does a new attack in the mofo

it gets annoying after a while

oh look kabuto is so op and will never looooo oh wait he lost....tobito will lose aswell

I know the vision is shared for paths so im not confused. & no Naruto was not overwhelmed by Obito he was fighting Obito & all 6 of those V2 paths than he almost got caught. And so what he got saved by Kakashi and Guy. If not for Obitos 6 paths he would've been in worse condition than he's in now. & We all know Obito is a liar. He says things to strike fear into peoples hearts. He said he can use the human path. But theres not one page in manga that proves he can.

FULLY AGREE AND IT DEF WAS A BLUFF BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG TIME AND WHY DO I KNOW THIS BECAUSE IF HE PULLS THE SOLE NARUTO DIES AND SO DIES THE BIJUU HE IS AFTER
 

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+ rep for the last part I totally forgot if he pulls narutos soul Kurama dies. Thats why i said hes not pulling his soul hes pulling Kurama himself out of him !
 

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why do you thin he pulled them back.....because once the tbb war went down he know he could nto win this way so he decided to try for the tentails without naruto and bee because he could not i repeat could not and still cant get them on his own

agreed one on one he would win and is made strong for sure but the op word is thrown around every time someone does a new attack in the mofo

it gets annoying after a while

oh look kabuto is so op and will never looooo oh wait he lost....tobito will lose aswell

I agree with most of your post. I'm just trying to say to the TC that Obito with only his paths and Gedo Mazo is still as OP as Nagato and doesn't need the path abilities based on his fighting style, its just that their fighting styles are somewhat different. Also, Obito is fighting 2 perfect Jins and 2 Kage level shinobi. At one point in the fight, he even overwhelmed the two Jins at one point. It depends on circumstance. If Kabuto had his Edo army with him in his fight with Itachi and if he was fighting with the intent to kill, he would of most definitely won.
 

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He has uchiha blood and the sharingan evolves to the rinnegan so just like sharingan rinnegan shouldnt take a big toll on his body. And what do you think costs more chakra using Kamui to save his tail 1,000 times in a fight or a few jutsu? Its not his chakra reserve its just that he doesnt know the techniques
You're not understanding at all. It's not a problem of being Uchiha or having Sharingan or Rinnengan. The problem comes from the fact he was controlling multiple Tailed Beast at the same time, and now is even about to control the Juubi(strongest Bijuu). Just to control a Bijuu like Kyubi must take a considerable amount of chakra, so when you add the fact he was controlling a great amount of them at the same time, it's difficult to use Rinnengan techniques at the same moment like Kakashi said himself. Notice that he even had difficulties to control the Gobi at some point, it shows that it's not that easy
 

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i agree with most of your post. I'm just trying to say to the tc that obito with only his paths and gedo mazo is still as op as nagato and doesn't need the path abilities based on his fighting style, its just that their fighting styles are somewhat different. Also, obito is fighting 2 perfect jins and 2 kage level shinobi. At one point in the fight, he even overwhelmed the two jins at one point. It depends on circumstance. If kabuto had his edo army with him in his fight with itachi and if he was fighting with the intent to kill, he would of most definitely won.

oh fully agre no doubt he is very strong but to me op mean .....well op haha madara is op why because h cant be killed he destroyed five kages effortlessly etc that is op

tobi is just strong as faq....meaning he is powerful but he is also losing groud at every turn which against his oppents as you stated is not a surprise at all

but i do think he can use the rin tech and i say this because o the linked vison ....no way can you get one of the rins powers without them all that is jus my opinion tho

also i agree he does not need them he is doing fine without them
 

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Your not catching the point. I know its hard and chakra consuming to control tailed beasts and the juubi. But after all that hes still using Kamui carelessly. If he can use Kamui a sharingan technique without draining a lot of chakra because hes an uchiha he should be able to use a rinnegan technique without draining a lot of chakra considering rinnegan derives from the uchiha to.
 

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but if he had them he wouldnt be backed against the ropes right now. Naruto & company would be clinging on barely.

not nesacarily part of the rins powers is not knowing the weakness but tobi know naruto knows them all like the fice second delay on the repulsion and sage mode turns the chakra sucking path into a frog etc

also he is probably aware thanks to itach he also knows how to beat the shinra tensi

imo it would be a waste because naruto knows the rin to well

and again like i said that five second delay with naruto new speed it like a hr now haha
 

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This also pisses me off. They can use all FIVE damn elements yet they don't do it?
 

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well he is strong, but i'm wondering why he didn't use rinnegan to absorb that mask crushing rasengan?
ih he had time to see it he should've had time to absorb it just like madara did with RS
 

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not nesacarily part of the rins powers is not knowing the weakness but tobi know naruto knows them all like the fice second delay on the repulsion and sage mode turns the chakra sucking path into a frog etc

also he is probably aware thanks to itach he also knows how to beat the shinra tensi

imo it would be a waste because naruto knows the rin to well

and again like i said that five second delay with naruto new speed it like a hr now haha

Yes Naruto knows the rinnegan well so this does render Obitos rinnegan useless. I guess he was just meant to fail in this fight xD
 

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This also pisses me off. They can use all FIVE damn elements yet they don't do it?

They have to know the jutsus to do them. Having the rinnegan enables you to do every chakra nature including yin-yang release but you have to know jutsus of that chakra nature. Though this does piss me off as well as only Nagato has shown mastery of the natures.
 

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yes naruto knows the rinnegan well so this does render obitos rinnegan useless. I guess he was just meant to fail in this fight xd

naw he now has madara who can seeminly as far as we know solo the naruto verse alone in one day haha but yes the rin vs naruto now.....pain ruined it also pnj no one wants to see the same moves over and over

They have to know the jutsus to do them. Having the rinnegan enables you to do every chakra nature including yin-yang release but you have to know jutsus of that chakra nature. Though this does piss me off as well as only Nagato has shown mastery of the natures.

I THINK THEY ARE SAVING THIS .....AGAIN AS I SAID PNJ NO ONE WANTS TO SEE THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND SINCE I TRULY BELIEVE SASUKE WILL GTE THE RINNEGAN AND MAYBE EVER SURAPASS IT AS THE RINEGAN IS OVER PLAYED NOW....I THINK ALOT OF THE RINS TRU POTENTIAL IS BEING SAVED FOR HIS CHARACTER
 
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naw he now has madara who can seeminly as far as we know solo the naruto verse alone in one day haha but yes the rin vs naruto now.....pain ruined it also pnj no one wants to see the same moves over and over

He has Madara but that doesn't mean Obito won't lose lol. Madara might be left standing and fighting alone you never know.
 

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You guys need to rematch that fight, he was whooping Naruto's ass and was about to pull out his soul before Gai and Kakashi interfered, Tobi was the only one getting hits on them it wasn't until chapter 597 that Obito took damage. And the only reason she lost his paths was because Itachi ended the Edo tensei, just sayin' Obito had that fight under control for a while.
 

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You guys need to rematch that fight, he was whooping Naruto's ass and was about to pull out his soul before Gai and Kakashi interfered, Tobi was the only one getting hits on them it wasn't until chapter 597 that Obito took damage. And the only reason she lost his paths was because Itachi ended the Edo tensei, just sayin' Obito had that fight under control for a while.

He wasn't pulling his soul he was pulling Kurama. No where in the manga does it show him being able to use human path and pull souls. The tailed beasts are stronger without a host anyway imo, so jinchuurikis being tooken out unleashed full beasts.
 

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Naruto would be kinda useless without kurama, probably fodder level. So Tobi would still won the battle.
That's no insult to Naruto, Sasuke is my favorite character but I admit without his eyes he ain't sh*t but you get point.
 

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He has Madara but that doesn't mean Obito won't lose lol. Madara might be left standing and fighting alone you never know.
yes you could very well be right....obito didnt want him back which is clear by how he didnt have nagato do it when he could have and by how he was shocked when he seen him etc

my theory on how madara will lose is tobito will gte tnj by naruto or kakashi and together kakashi and tobito will joint the powers of the kamui together and catch madara in the other dimension then they will both crush the eyes leaving madara trapt forever
 

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Neither has been fightin forreal, when that times comes they will use the Rinnegan powers
 
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