Itachi Uchiha: The Legacy Uncovered! Explinations of His Gifts, Madara, and Sauske!

[Arisonius]

In this post I am going to be covering a few theories of mine regarding the various Magekenyo Sharingan's we have seen, the gifts Itachi gave Naruto and Sauske, and what is behind the mask of Madara Uchiha, formerly known as Tobi.

Let us begin with the gifts of Itachi Uchiha to his younger brother, Sauske Uchiha, and the son of Minato Namikaze, Naruto Uzamaki. I will begin with the gift that Itachi Uchiha gave Sauske Uchiha.

We see Itachi give Sauske these gifts during their fight together. In this fight Itachi gives Sauske two different gifts. The first gift is that he removes Oorchimaru's Cursed Seal, the secons gift, according to Madara Uchiha, is that Itachi bestowed upon Sauske all of his eye techniques.

Lets look into the first gift: The Removal of Oorchimaru's Cursed Seal. This seal gave Sauske incredible power, boosted his stamina, chakra, and speed at 'Level One.' At 'Level Two' the seal would take over Sauske's body, transforming him into a winged monstrosity, but in return granting him power greater than that of a Jinkuuri's Bijuu Cloak. We must remember as well that during the Battle at the Valley of the End, Sauske VS Naruto, Saske had just received his cursed seal. As time went on and he began to master its uses, who knows what kind of power it could have granted him?
However, the cursed seal also allowed Oorchimaru to maintain a foot-hold withing Sauske's body. As long as Oorchimaru remained within Sauske I do not think it is beyond the realm of possibility that he could have eventually taken over. I think that we are able to see this, most clearly, as a possible scenario during the fighting. Saske summons a large number of snakes, and from the mouth of one we see the materialization of Oorchimaru himself! I do not think this is what Sauske intended when using the jutsu.
So, that being said, Itachi's first gift to Sauske accomplished two things. First of all, it weakened him substantially, and secondly, it freed Sauske from Oorchimaru's grasp. I think it would be fair to say that Sauske found this to be an acceptable trade-off as we have yet to see him gripe about the fact that he no longer has it.

The second gift Itachi gave Sauske were his eye techniques: Amaterasu and Tsukiomi. I believe Madara when he says that he gave Sauaske all of his eye techniques, and we will get into why later.
The fist time we see Amaterasu from Sauske we see his Magekenyo Sharingan looks exactly like Itachi's. This is not a mistake, and it is crucially important. (More on this later.) Tobi (at that time this is all we knew him by) says that Itachi must have implanted Amaterasu into Sauske and caused it to be triggered when Sauske saw his sharingan. (I will get into why that is only a half-truth later.) We then see Madara Uchiha put out the of Amaterasu. (This is also important, I will explain why later.) I believe that Itachi also gave Sauske an Tsukiomi trigger, but this one is going to be used in the battle against Naruto. I will explain why when we discuss Narutos gift, up next.

 

[Arisonius]

Itachi's gift to Naruto Uzamaki:
Some people have speculated that Itachi's gift is a counter against the Sharingan. Nope, sorry, the gift would have been wasted as soon as he saw Tobi, or when he looked at Kakashi. Every complete Sahringan is the same. Three tomoe per eye.
Other people predict that the gift is a sort of Anti-Amaterasu. Nope, sorry. The thing about Amaterasu is that you need a Magekenyo Sharingan to put it out. ( Some of my more astute reader are going to be saying "What?!?" at this point. I promise to explain, please be patient. )
So than what's left? Tsukiomi. That's right. The Magekenyo Sharingan's most fearsome, and arguably, the most powerful genjutsu in all of shinobidom. Hear me out.
I believe that Itachi implanted Naruto Uzamaki with a portion of his chakra, much the same way that Sauske had a portion of Oorchimaru's chakra. The only difference is that Itachi is trying to take Naruto over, he's lying in wait.
I believe that when Sauske sees Naruto we will see Itachi's Magekenyo Sharingan form in Sauske's left eye ( It was Itachi's Magekenyo Sharingan that formed in Saske's right eye when he cast Amaterasu against Madara ) and Tsukiomi wll be cast, even if against his will. Then we will see Sauske, Naruto, and a flock of crows. The gift Itachi gave Naruto will take shape, the crows will come together, and we will see the Return of Itachi Uchiha! Even if only for a moment within a genjutsu.

I will answer a few question about the Itachi's gift segment now:

So why is Itachi using his Magekenyo Sharingan instead of Sauske's "star" shaped one?
Simple, Itachi never thought Sauske would achieve Magekenyo Sharingan because he couldn't kill Naruto. So instead he used his own.

What do you mean Itachi didn't think Sauske could Achieve Magekenyo Sharingan?
You think its coincidence that the first time we encounter an Akatsuki member besides Itachi and Kisame is at the Valley of the End? That member, the third member we are introduced to, just happens to be Zetsu. I think Zetsu watched the entire fight and reported back to Itachi two very important things:
1. Sauske didn't kill Naruto.
2. Sauske said "I want to defeat Itachi my own way."
At this point Itachi probarbly stopped monitoring Sauske.

Wait a second, that doesn't make sense? You can't gift a Magekenyo Sharingan...can you?
If Kakashi Hatake can achieve Magekenyo Sharingan (and lets remember he has NO Uchiha blood in him) then I surmise it shouldn't be that hard to gift an Uchiha with a fully activated Sharingan a one-shot per-eye Magekenyo Shaingan. Even if it does strain their eye(s) to the point that it makes them go blind incredibly fast.

If you need a Magekenyo Sharingan to put out Amaterasu then how could Madara do it? I looked, the Sharingan he used to do it is just a regular sharingan!
Astute observation. However, we don't see most of what happens because Madara falls into the darkness and is covered with Amaterasu. So its possible that after he went into the darkness he activated Magekenyo Sharingan and put out Amaterasu.

But wouldn't Madara have gotten burned? He seems unscathed!
Right you are! That's why I think Madara used Eternal Magekenyo Sharingan to do it. You know, the one that's in his left eye?

Wait a second, Madara's Sharingan is in his right eye. He keeps his left eye covered. That can't be true then...can it?
Im not going to go in depth answering you here, you're just going to have to wait until my next theory comes out: Itachi and Madara: The Truth Behind the Masks!
However, I will give you this much. We already know that when a sharingan is transferred it becomes permanent. Case study: Kakashi Hatake.

So, how come Sauske got Magekenyo Sharingan in the first place?
This was a gift from Madara Uchiha, in a way. We do not see this new, star-shaped Magekenyo Sharingan of Sauske's until AFTER he is seen with the Triagle Shaped Magekenyo Sharingan that we are familiar with. This leads me to believe that Sauske did not in fact achieve Magekenyo Sharingan until AFTER Madara Uchiha told him the truth about Itachi Uchiha, thereby changing the bond between Sauske and Itachi from enemies to brothers. In that moment Sauske began to understand that the actions he had taken led to the death of the person who had been protecting him, encouraging him, and looking out for him, from day one. Itachi Uchiha always believed that Sauske couls become stronger, always believed in him, even when his mother and father didn't. This made Itachi more than just a brother to Sauske. With that, he began to realize he had just severed the closest bond he ever had, and the Magekenyo Sharingan was activated.

Please feel free to comment or question. Thank you for reading!

 

[ssanimo]

amaterasu came from his left eye.......ninjutsu from the left.....genjutsu from the right........super tech(susano) from both

i will rep you for your hard work making all these threads (taking my advise eh?) although i tend to disagree with you on most topics

 

[Chakra]

in my opinion, I don't think it is possible to implant MS permanently into a regular sharingan. I truly think a permanent MS can only be achieved by experience required or physically attaining the actual MS eyes.

kakashi's sharingan is permanent because he has physically attained the actual sharingan eye and it is permanently activated because he does not have uchiha blood to turn it off and on. I do also believe his MS was attained because of his own personal experiences of having several ppl close to him die.

 

[-Naruto Uzumaki-]

Cool theory, man. Your posts are always interesting.

Btw, how long did it take you to type that?

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

Very impressive! I have to say I'm kinda hard to convince, but u are good. Continue with the good theory, ur starting to make urself a name has a real analyst!

 

[kl2195]

it kind does make cents

 

[ryado]

well done!!! gr8 work as usual

 

[BAN_KAI]

in my opinion, I don't think it is possible to implant MS permanently into a regular sharingan. I truly think a permanent MS can only be achieved by experience required or physically attaining the actual MS eyes.

kakashi's sharingan is permanent because he has physically attained the actual sharingan eye and it is permanently activated because he does not have uchiha blood to turn it off and on. I do also believe his MS was attained because of his own personal experiences of having several ppl close to him die.

I agree with you on that and i read that Kakashi abtained his MS because the experiance he received from the other eye Unknown which it belongs

 

[Arisonius]

I agree with you on that and i read that Kakashi abtained his MS because the experiance he received from the other eye Unknown which it belongs

I don't have much time, but I will try to respond to the above posts:

Diabolus - This is just a theory. There is no proof to substiate this at the moment.

-Naruto Uzamaki - You don't want to know the amount of time I spend thinking about the Naruto series. Typically 10 - 14 hours a day. The amount of research going into my theories is mind-boogling.

Ssanimo - Yes, I am taking your advice. I dint know where to post my theories though. X.x

By the way, that's I have to do more research but I think its different for each user.

 

[Izuna Uchiha]

By the way, ur saying''U'll see in my other theory'' at a lot of place, where are those other theory, because I've seen ur other and they doens't refer to this one...

 

[Arisonius]

By the way, ur saying''U'll see in my other theory'' at a lot of place, where are those other theory, because I've seen ur other and they doens't refer to this one...

I gave you the name already, but I haven't finished it. It will be called Itachi And Madara: Behind the Masks!

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

so a thought just came to me regarding itachi's gift to naruto, what if its not necessarily a weapon or defense at all, but a way to control the ultimate weapon/defense that lives inside him??? what if itachi gave naruto the power to control the 9-tails??? to me that seems more plausible than him giving naruto ameterasu, or susano, what if instead itachi realized that with ms sasuke would be able to supress the kyuubi's power within naruto, so to counter that he gave naruto the ability to control the kyuubi himself?!?!
this might have already been said bfore but any thoughts are welcome

 

[Arisonius]

so a thought just came to me regarding itachi's gift to naruto, what if its not necessarily a weapon or defense at all, but a way to control the ultimate weapon/defense that lives inside him??? what if itachi gave naruto the power to control the 9-tails??? to me that seems more plausible than him giving naruto ameterasu, or susano, what if instead itachi realized that with ms sasuke would be able to supress the kyuubi's power within naruto, so to counter that he gave naruto the ability to control the kyuubi himself?!?!
this might have already been said bfore but any thoughts are welcome

I doubt this is the case. We have only seen two forms of Bijuu control thus-far, wood release and Sharingan. That being said, I don't think Naruto can obtain the sharingan by Itachi gifting it to him without giving him Uchiha eyes. As for the wood reease this requires a Kekkai Genkai which Naruto has not shown himself to have a Kekkai Genkai (even though Kishi said he has one) and even if he did his first Nature Element is Wind, so that's a no-go there.

I also never said, anywhere, that Itachi's gift was Amaterasu or Susanoo, or even Tsukiomi for that matter.

 

[sageofmyobokuzan]

i didnt say you did arisonius, i was just speaking generally because i have heard those theories thrown around, and it wouldnt be full blown sharingan, i was saying it more as a counter to sasuke or madara suppressing the kyuubi chakra within him. this would allow naruto to harness the power of the kyuubi during his fight with madara and sasuke, and this is because i think by then he will be able to control the kyuubi's power to a certain extent, like around 6-tails or something

 

[Orion]

nice theory man!!!!!!!!!
first question:-U said, itachi lies within naruto....is he really trying 2 take over naruto d same way oro tried with sasuke....
second question:-how did kyubi allowed itachi 2 plant his chakra in naruto....

 

[Arisonius]

i didnt say you did arisonius, i was just speaking generally because i have heard those theories thrown around, and it wouldnt be full blown sharingan, i was saying it more as a counter to sasuke or madara suppressing the kyuubi chakra within him. this would allow naruto to harness the power of the kyuubi during his fight with madara and sasuke, and this is because i think by then he will be able to control the kyuubi's power to a certain extent, like around 6-tails or something

I don't think anyone can improve Naruto's control over Kyuubi except for Naruto.

I'm not exactly sure how Sauske surpressed Kyuubi's chakra or how Madara, evidently, controlled Kyuubi. But, if my theory is correct, then it is a form of genjutsu. If that is the case then what said in my theory regardng Itachi's gift to Naruto would apply still, at the very least allowing him to use Kyuubi during his fight with Sauske. I also do not think it is possible to control Kyuubi while he is inside of Naruto, as Madara Uchiha once did.

 

[Arisonius]

nice theory man!!!!!!!!!
first question:-U said, itachi lies within naruto....is he really trying 2 take over naruto d same way oro tried with sasuke....
second question:-how did kyubi allowed itachi 2 plant his chakra in naruto....

1. No, I specifically said I don't think Itachi is going to try to tae Naruto over. If he implanted a portion of his chakra into Naruto I believe it is specifically placed to be activated by genjutsu, more specifically, Itachi's Tsukiomi. Reread that part, you might get a better idea of what I meant. If you do so and you still don't understand then perhaps I did a bad job of relaying my thoughts. Tell me where you are having difficulty understanding and I will try to elaborate.

2. Very good question! Here is your answer: There are actually two different theories I have on this:
A) We have already seen that the Uchihas are capable of surpressing Kyuubi's chakra. That being said, he may have been able to place it inside Naruto because he first surpressed Kyuubi and then gave him his power. Another option is that Kyuubi didn't mind and therefor didn't object.
B) Another option is that Itachi placed his chakra on something that Naruto wears. This would be similar to what we see with Deidara's C4 mines. In theory, those mines would sese the chakra of someone other than Deidara and Tobi and blow up, that's why Deiara and Tobi had nothing to fear from the mines.
In much the same way, the chakra Itachi planted on Naruto would "explode", so to speak, when it he gets caught in a genjutsu, again, I think it would specifically be Tsukiomi.

Where would he hide his chakra on Naruto's person? I thin.k the Konoha forehead protector is a likely spot.

I will, however, say that option B seems far less likely due to the fact that we see Itachi touch Naruto's forehead in much the same way he touched Sauske's forehead. I would think that in order to plant one's chakra onto an item you would need to be at least touching the item, if not holding it.

Maybe Itachi replaced Naruto's headband while he was trapped in a genjutsu.

 

[Avani]

Lets look into the first gift: The Removal of Oorchimaru's Cursed Seal. This seal gave Sauske incredible power, boosted his stamina, chakra, and speed at 'Level One.' At 'Level Two' the seal would take over Sauske's body, transforming him into a winged monstrosity, but in return granting him power greater than that of a Jinkuuri's Bijuu Cloak. We must remember as well that during the Battle at the Valley of the End, Sauske VS Naruto, Saske had just received his cursed seal. As time went on and he began to master its uses, who knows what kind of power it could have granted him?
However, the cursed seal also allowed Oorchimaru to maintain a foot-hold withing Sauske's body. As long as Oorchimaru remained within Sauske I do not think it is beyond the realm of possibility that he could have eventually taken over. I think that we are able to see this, most clearly, as a possible scenario during the fighting. Saske summons a large number of snakes, and from the mouth of one we see the materialization of Oorchimaru himself! I do not think this is what Sauske intended when using the jutsu.
So, that being said, Itachi's first gift to Sauske accomplished two things. First of all, it weakened him substantially, and secondly, it freed Sauske from Oorchimaru's grasp. I think it would be fair to say that Sauske found this to be an acceptable trade-off as we have yet to see him gripe about the fact that he no longer has it.

Sasuke, the hawk beast, was fighting Naruto one tail. If sasuke could go more powerful so could Naruto. Naruto didn't think he would try to actully kill him and got injured and was not stable enough to concentrate on the fight ...Sasuke did not kill him so may be Naruto was not 100% wrong , but for some moments Sasuke really did .... so there were lots of factors....


You have insisted in the past about removal of Oro' seal weakenned Sasuke- I disagree.

It had it's draw backs even if Kishi didnt say it explicitly. The Juggo mentioned it - he said right after the fight with KB- " Despite Oroseal being removed , you haven't heeled properly."

I find the word "Despite" as key word. If Juggo is saying that it directly implies that the seal interfeered in recovery also. None of them were even one bit concerned about getting rid of Oro' seal- rather glad. Nobody thought that power much useful to mourne about. They realised that its negatives outweiged its postive effects.

Kimimaro got his powers accelarated due to seal- he died of it. Remember Mizuki died with it too- he got potion which was not perfected from Oro- his got superhuman strengnth and then collapsed within a short period of time. Naruto didn't have to do anything to beat him in the last. The more powerfull the seal host gets, faster he dies.

Oro kept using new bodies all the time , though he takes them from the best shinobies with special powers-But accelarted powers burned out the vessel body. That's just not the real power unless you are willing to dump your body in three years anyway. Sasuke will get to live longer and stronger but at a rational pace.

 

[Avani]

I don't think anyone can improve Naruto's control over Kyuubi except for Naruto.

I'm not exactly sure how Sauske surpressed Kyuubi's chakra or how Madara,

KB said that genjutsu doesn't work on a host. So if Naruto can get enough controle over Kubi he won't need a counter for Genjutsu.

It is probably someting which makes it ewasier for him to counter Sasuke's controle over Kyubi. Some ultimate weapon which Sasuke might use and Itachi thought that Naruto will need a counter for it.

Something which will make Sasuke say" So itachi did not put me above the village after all even if desperatly wanted me alive and well."

Ah I am too tired .... I aaaaaam off before I sleep on my keyboard.