Tsukuyomi and why Tsunade can break it

Do you agree?

  • Yea to some degree

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  • Like always Manga>Words

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  • NO JUST NO, TSUKUYOMI IS GODLY

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Sazzi

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the reason tsunade would not be able to break it, is cause she can heal the effects on other ppl, does not mean that when the technique mentally renders her comotose she is not functional to fix it... and to address her mitoic regeneration, itachi said he controls everything in tsukuyomi and there does not have to allow its victims the ability to do anything let alone activate jutsu's, not saying mitoic regeneration would help as its not physical damage and nothing for it to replace, fix, or otherwise... also without a sharingan yourself, and even then a lot of power behind it, i dont beleive genjutsu release is going to work out for her...
 
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I'm not talking about beating Itachi, which is impossible, thats why I didn't put her name in there as people who can break Tsukuyomi

lolz!!! Impossible??? I have something for you...
Please, read it to the end and be mature about it.
 

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I'm sorry... I've got something for you.

Tsunade breaks Tsukuyomi through chakra control thanks to her Yin Seal... read my previous post... then you mentioned Amaterasu ... Tsunade uses Byakugou no jutsu and Amaterassu is worthless. However, This is not a Tsunade vs Itachi thread, so, I don't see your point..

And where has it ever been proven that Chakra Control can break Tsukuyomi? It's not like Tsukuyomi is an ordinary genjustu..what's this high pedestal that people seem to be putting Tsunade on..? She's a good medic that can hit really hard...that's it, she can't perform all these feats that people seem to believe she's capable of..no offense, it was a good theory I just highly disagree with it.
 

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Nope, cuz once in Tsukoyomi, Itachi then has control over what you do, so the time it takes for her to think of something, Itachi has already made that seem like weeks in her head, when in reality, it was a few seconds.
 

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I'm sorry... I've got something for you.

Tsunade breaks Tsukuyomi through chakra control thanks to her Yin Seal... read my previous post... then you mentioned Amaterasu ... Tsunade uses Byakugou no jutsu and Amaterassu is worthless. However, This is not a Tsunade vs Itachi thread, so, I don't see your point..

Since Itachi distorts time in Tsukuyomi, she'd never be able to physically react in time before the damage is done... All it takes is 1 second.
 

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And where has it ever been proven that Chakra Control can break Tsukuyomi? It's not like Tsukuyomi is an ordinary genjustu..what's this high pedestal that people seem to be putting Tsunade on..? She's a good medic that can hit really hard...that's it, she can't perform all these feats that people seem to believe she's capable of..no offense, it was a good theory I just highly disagree with it.

Good medic?? hits hard??? you sure that's all??

Surely that's why Madara was so pissed off that he took the hardest over her and was pissed off when she was able to see through his wood clone technique... mm, However, you are free to have your own opinion about her. For me and for many other she is the only Kunoichi Goddess-like in Narutoverse's history and will die or survive this very time as so. One never knows... :)
 

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It doesn't matter, itachis tsukuyomi is special. He controls time and space in his illusion, making just one second seem like 3 days.

Even if she managed to break out of it the damage would have already been done. Only a Sharingan user can fight against the mental torture One endures while in itachis genjutsu. Tsunade, although ridiculously skilled in chakra control can't fight the mental effects while in the illusion. Even if she did manage to break it she would have already been subjected to at least 2 days worth of torture. He controls time and space which is why no one other than Sasuke can break ITACHI'S tsukuyomi.
 
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Since Itachi distorts time in Tsukuyomi, she'd never be able to physically react in time before the damage is done... All it takes is 1 second.

Like I said having the ability and doing it is two diffrent things but if you put her scenarios such as Itachi letting his guard down because he is in Tsukuyomi like he did with Kakashi then she'd have time to react in the Tsukuyomi world not the real world.
 

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I am not even starting this as I had a whole tread about it.
In my beliefs and logical terms she can break it or even if it doesn't break it, given her medical skills, it doesn't affect her at all. It's nice to see that this ideea already is spreading after I've started the whole madness, lol.
 
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Since Itachi distorts time in Tsukuyomi, she'd never be able to physically react in time before the damage is done... All it takes is 1 second.

You avoid Tsukuyomi in many ways but once you've been trapped by it you can understand time distortion by being aware that you are in a genjutsu and through perfect chakra control counter the effects in your head. Tsunade is an strong-willed woman who never gives up. The way she have to get out of Tsukuyomy is easy: Just outlast enough time to understand it or release her Yin seal so that she surpasses the amount of chakra the sharingan user is using in the genjutsu, therefore making it impossible for Itachi to control her mind.
I'm just saying, it can go either way,,, but Tsunade have the best chances to get out of it. Itachi's words "every single jutsu have a weakness"
..... so, why do you Uchiha fans go against the genious Uchiha's words? Why don't you just accept it is jus another jutsu and that therefore it can be countered? ... Itachi is not the only great shinobi yo know? Not all the rest are fodders just because he has Tsukuyomi and Amaterassu. Any fight can go either way, just depends on the passion either fighter puts in.
Just keep that in mind... the fanboysm is not letting you be fair, honest and think clearly about this debates.
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Good medic?? hits hard??? you sure that's all??

Surely that's why Madara was so pissed off that he took the hardest over her and was pissed off when she was able to see through his wood clone technique... mm, However, you are free to have your own opinion about her. For me and for many other she is the only Kunoichi Goddess-like in Narutoverse's history and will die or survive this very time as so. One never knows... :)

She's a great medic and an impressive ninja. Her Taijutsu is 3rd to Guy and Lee, Her healing abilties is no.1 so yeah she's a great ninja
 

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I am not even starting this as I had a whole tread about it.
In my beliefs and logical terms she can break it or even if it doesn't break it, given her medical skills, it doesn't affect her at all.



How would it not affect her at all? Tsukuyomi specializes in mental damage... Show me a scan where it has been stated or seen that tsunade can heal mental damage in an instant rendering tsukuyomi useless.

I can see where you are coming from, because of her excellent chakra control and her outside source of chakra theoretically she can break out of most genjutsus... But not tsukuyomi, a genjutsu that last only one second real time while dealing days.of torture in the illusion itself. Only a sharingan user can fight the mental effects.of the illusion.
 
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You avoid Tsukuyomi in many ways but once you've been trapped by it you can understand time distortion by being aware that you are in a genjutsu and through perfect chakra control counter the effects in your head. Tsunade is an strong-willed woman who never gives up. The way she have to get out of Tsukuyomy is easy: Just outlast enough time to understand it or release her Yin seal so that she surpasses the amount of chakra the sharingan user is using in the genjutsu, therefore making it impossible for Itachi to control her mind.
I'm just saying, it can go either way,,, but Tsunade have the best chances to get out of it. Itachi's words "every single jutsu have a weakness"
..... so, why do you Uchiha fans go against the genious Uchiha's words? Why don't you just accept it is jus another jutsu and that therefore it can be countered? ... Itachi is not the only great shinobi yo know? Not all the rest are fodders just because he has Tsukuyomi and Amaterassu. Any fight can go either way, just depends on the passion either fighter puts in.
Just keep that in mind... the fanboysm is not letting you be fair, honest and think clearly about this debates.
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The PEDASTOOL which some hold Itachi on is extremely annoying. Itachi was better than the SAGE OF SIX PATHS(sarcasm)
 

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She's a great medic and an impressive ninja. Her Taijutsu is 3rd to Guy and Lee, Her healing abilties is no.1 so yeah she's a great ninja

no, you are wrong indeed!.
Jiraiya himself stated in the Tsunade's arc that "in hand to hand combat she has no equal"... and Jiraiya was (in my opinion) the real sage on the series. For me, whatever Jiraiya said is like a testament, something to not to disagree with.
Just because Gai can use the 8 gates it doesn't mean he can actually beat Tsunade's taijutsu. They are just different types of Taijutsu. Gai uses the 8 inner gates (which Tsunade could have mastered as well) and on the other hand Tsunade uses monstrous strength and chakra enhanced strength which is actually impossible for Gai since his chakra is as low as Kakashi's.
Tsunade didn't need to master a Technique that can actually kill you since her chakra is ridiculously monstrous and she can Tank any kinds or ranks of attacks by her Ninja Art: Genesis of the Divine Rebirth or her Byakugou no jutsu.
and lee??? I loled when you said that ( no offense) . Tsunade would uuse ONE finger to defeat lee's taijutsu just as she did with the kaki Naruto.
Just think about it and you will understand my point... you are a clever one. ;)
 

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Ok let's see here
-She doesn't have Uchiha blood/DNA
-She doesn't have a sharingan

Based on that alone your theory is invalid,but rep +1 for trying
I disagree. Yes she doesn't have Uchiha DNA but she is both Senju and Uzimaki, and the Uzimaki's share both clans ( Uchiha/Senju) DNA so she has a diluted amount. But she also is able to control her chakra on a level that in itself is godlike being able to use the yin seal which no one else can because they lack the ability. It's okay to be a fan of the Uchiha but be more subjective and use rationale, tsukuyomi isn't the ultimate genjutsu so as Itachi said it has it's weaknesses, a medical nin like tsunade could exploit those weaknesses because she's seen what it does and how it affects you; do you honestly think she wouldn't come up with a way to combat that tech after treating Kakashi and the emo kid for it?
 

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It doesn't matter, itachis tsukuyomi is special. He controls time and space in his illusion, making just one second seem like 3 days.

Even if she managed to break out of it the damage would have already been done. Only a Sharingan user can fight against the mental torture One endures while in itachis genjutsu. Tsunade, although ridiculously skilled in chakra control can't fight the mental effects while in the illusion. Even if she did manage to break it she would have already been subjected to at least 2 days worth of torture. He controls time and space which is why no one other than Sasuke can break ITACHI'S tsukuyomi.

The mental effects are all based on CHAKRA MANIPULATION, if you can control your CHAKRA better than the caster ( and Tsunade just so happens to be able to use her chakra on a godlike level) then of course she can break it without being affected the way Kakashi was. Stop being a fan-boy it's pathetic
 

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I disagree. Yes she doesn't have Uchiha DNA but she is both Senju and Uzimaki, and the Uzimaki's share both clans ( Uchiha/Senju) DNA so she has a diluted amount. But she also is able to control her chakra on a level that in itself is godlike being able to use the yin seal which no one else can because they lack the ability. It's okay to be a fan of the Uchiha but be more subjective and use rationale, tsukuyomi isn't the ultimate genjutsu so as Itachi said it has it's weaknesses, a medical nin like tsunade could exploit those weaknesses because she's seen what it does and how it affects you; do you honestly think she wouldn't come up with a way to combat that tech after treating Kakashi and the emo kid for it?

the emo kid!! :D + rep for this. I see what you did there, lolol
 
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