Tsukuyomi and why Tsunade can break it

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  • Yea to some degree

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  • NO JUST NO, TSUKUYOMI IS GODLY

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Please read with an open mind(Tsukuyomi fans)

Tsukuyomi is said to be that ocular jutsu that no one but sharingan blood line users and jinchūriki's can break, I disagree with that.

Lets look at Tsukuyomi in medical terms.
Tsukuyomi affects the victim on a psycological level. It is said to be used as a method to interogation. Also it is said to break someones will power and spirit.
Medically I think Tsunade (the greatest medical ninja) can break it, Tsunade has shown the ability to heal individuals from the AFFECTS of Tsukuyomi, I know it is the after effect of Tsukuyomi but medically wise she can break it. Orochimaru went to Tsunade to heal the most complex seal in Reaper Death seal. Althought she didn't heal it, it is likely she could've since Orochimaru was 100% sure.

The question is, would Itachi even let her break it? The thing is......... knowing how to break out of something is different from actually doing it and accomplishing it. The complexity of how Itachi does Tuskuyomi is critical, only a few in my opinion can break it(Madara, Killerbee, Naruto, Izuna, and Yagura ). I feel thatTsunade can break it in medical terms. For the record Tsuanade is garbage and plays the role she was designed for(medical nin), I'm not a fanboy.
 
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No. Itachi controls Tsukyomi...anything Tsunade does while in tsukyomi is controlled by Itachi.
 

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Please read with an open mind(Tsukuyomi fans)

Tsukuyomi is said to be that ocular jutsu that no one but sharingan blood line users and jinchūriki's can break, I disagree with that.

Lets look at Tsukuyomi in medical terms.
Tsukuyomi affects the victim on a psycological level. It is said to be used as a method to interogation. Also it is said to break someones will power and spirit.
Medically I think Tsunade (the greatest medical ninja) can break it, Tsunade has shown the ability to heal individuals from the AFFECTS of Tsukuyomi, I know it is the after effect of Tsukuyomi but medically wise she can break it. Orochimaru went to Tsunade to heal the most complex seal in Reaper Death seal. Althought she didn't heal it, it is likely she could've since Orochimaru was 100% sure.

The question is, would Itachi even let her break it? The thing is......... knowing how to break out of something is different from actually doing it and accomplishing it. The complexity of how Itachi does Tuskuyomi is critical, only a few in my opinion can break it(Madara, Killerbee, Naruto, Izuna, and Yagura ). I feel thatTsunade can break it in medical terms. For the record Tsuanade is garbage and plays the role she was designed to for(medical nin), I'm not a fanboy.

im not fanboy either but no just no.. nice threoy +rep
 

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Dunno but you never know jman tried to show naruto how to break genjutsu on his own by disrupting his chakra but it takes lots of chakra control which tsunade def has as a medicle ninja

so in theory she could but imo even if she cant she can out last it and keept fighting
 

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Very strongly dissagree, Tsunade's best bet for avoiding Tsukuyomi is calling in sick that day.
 

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no sauske broke threw it. tsunade cant
 
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No. Itachi controls Tsukyomi...anything Tsunade does while in tsukyomi is controlled by Itachi.

True but if it affects a person consciousness, medically wise I think the after affects would not apply to her. Tsukuyomi is shown to immbolize not kill so her after effects would not be as significant as Kakashi's if any.
 

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Tsunade can actually break any genjutsu not by medical terms but by chackra control. I'm sure you all know the only way to break Tsukuyomi (Stated by Jiraiya himself) is either by not making eye contact with the sharingan user or by perfect chakra control. Therefore Tsunade would be able to get out of it since she is the only character left in the series with absolute perfect chakra control. The later is proved since she's the only one to control a Yin seal which is a forgotten talent of the Uzumaki clan just like the sharingan is an innate talent for Uchihas. Tsunade's chakra levels are monstrous levels. She can control huge amounts of chakra and release a PURE chakra nature Seal which would destroy any other user without the ability of controlling a chakra based seal which was only possible for Uzumakis.

So yes, theoretically Tsunade can break it. She healed Kakashi anad Sasuke of Itachi's Tsukuyomi mental effects. Also, we saw how orochimaru cut his hand to get out of genjutsu.You can always bite your own tongue. Bleeding or any real pain stops genjutsu.
Tsunade takes this.

I hope @Chatte comes to support this point sooner rather than later.
 
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Honestly, it seemed like Itachi let Saskue break out to bring him at his lowest

itachi may have never intended to kill sauske but he indeed did push him to his limits and abillites in there fight, and if you rewatch the episode when they fight to the death, itachi was amazed and surprised that sauske was able to break out of it, and not only that
zetsu commented on it that sauske was so skilled with the sharingan
 
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Tsunade can actually break any genjutsu not by medical terms but by chackra control. I'm sure you all know the only way to break Tsukuyomi (Stated by Jiraiya himself) is either by not making eye contact with the sharingan user or by perfect chakra control. Therefore Tsunade would be able to get out of it since she is the only character left in the series with absolute perfect chakra control. The later is proved since she's the only one to control a Yin seal which is a forgotten talent of the Uzumaki clan just like the sharingan is an innate talent for Uchihas. Tsunade's chakra levels are monstrous levels. She can control huge amounts of chakra and release a PURE chakra nature Seal which would destroy any other user without the ability of controlling a chakra based seal which was only possible for Uzumakis.

So yes, theoretically Tsunade can break it. She healed Kakashi anad Sasuke of Itachi's Tsukuyomi mental effects. Also, we saw how orochimaru cut his hand to get out of genjutsu. One can always bite your own tongue. Bleeding or any real pain stops genjutsu.
Tsunade takes this.

I agree, although I wasn't thinking about it on that level but great, some people seem to think, Itachi and Tsukuyomi is on a godly level and only a Godly shinobi can break it or defeat him.
 

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True but if it affects a person consciousness, medically wise I think the after affects would not apply to her. Tsukuyomi is shown to immbolize not kill so her after effects would not be as significant as Kakashi's if any.

Tsukuyomi has the power to kill if the user is skilled enough with the technique and desires so. The case with Itachi is he never wanted to kill kakashi or pre time skip sasuke, so tsukuyomi only put them into a coma like state.

Please read with an open mind(Tsukuyomi fans)

Tsukuyomi is said to be that ocular jutsu that no one but sharingan blood line users and jinchūriki's can break, I disagree with that.

Lets look at Tsukuyomi in medical terms.
Tsukuyomi affects the victim on a psycological level. It is said to be used as a method to interogation. Also it is said to break someones will power and spirit.
Medically I think Tsunade (the greatest medical ninja) can break it, Tsunade has shown the ability to heal individuals from the AFFECTS of Tsukuyomi, I know it is the after effect of Tsukuyomi but medically wise she can break it. Orochimaru went to Tsunade to heal the most complex seal in Reaper Death seal. Althought she didn't heal it, it is likely she could've since Orochimaru was 100% sure.

The question is, would Itachi even let her break it? The thing is......... knowing how to break out of something is different from actually doing it and accomplishing it. The complexity of how Itachi does Tuskuyomi is critical, only a few in my opinion can break it(Madara, Killerbee, Naruto, Izuna, and Yagura ). I feel thatTsunade can break it in medical terms. For the record Tsuanade is garbage and plays the role she was designed to for(medical nin), I'm not a fanboy.

I don't believe Tsunade has the skill to break out of either Sasuke's or Itachi's tsukuyomi because she lacks a sharingan or a tail beast.
 

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But tsukuymoi happens in a second real time 3 days mid time. Would that have anything to do with breaking through it either jinchuriki or someone good at breaking gen?
 
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itachi may have never intended to kill sauske but he indeed did push him to his limits and abillites in there fight, and if you rewatch the episode when they fight to the death, itachi was amazed and surprised that sauske was able to break out of it, and not only that
zetsu commented on it that sauske was so skilled with the sharingan

All true
 

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Ok let's see here
-She doesn't have Uchiha blood/DNA
-She doesn't have a sharingan

Based on that alone your theory is invalid,but rep +1 for trying
 

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I don't think Tsunade is capable of breaking through Tsukuyomi, I think only another Sharingan user can do that or a jinchuriki.
Even is she did break through it, Amaterasu..Game Over.
 

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Tsunade can actually break any genjutsu not by medical terms but by chackra control. I'm sure you all know the only way to break Tsukuyomi (Stated by Jiraiya himself) is either by not making eye contact with the sharingan user or by perfect chakra control. Therefore Tsunade would be able to get out of it since she is the only character left in the series with absolute perfect chakra control. The later is proved since she's the only one to control a Yin seal which is a forgotten talent of the Uzumaki clan just like the sharingan is an innate talent for Uchihas. Tsunade's chakra levels are monstrous levels. She can control huge amounts of chakra and release a PURE chakra nature Seal which would destroy any other user without the ability of controlling a chakra based seal which was only possible for Uzumakis.

So yes, theoretically Tsunade can break it. She healed Kakashi anad Sasuke of Itachi's Tsukuyomi mental effects. Also, we saw how orochimaru cut his hand to get out of genjutsu.You can always bite your own tongue. Bleeding or any real pain stops genjutsu.
Tsunade takes this.

I hope @Chatte comes to support this point sooner rather than later.

That would be true if tsukuyomi was a regular type of genjutsu. Tsukuyomi is not a godly technique but it is a special type of genjutsu just like frog song is a special type of genjutsu. Both of these are inescapable moves without some sort of special power or tail beast to break you out.
 
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I don't think Tsunade is capable of breaking through Tsukuyomi, I think only another Sharingan user can do that or a jinchuriki.
Even is she did break through it, Amaterasu..Game Over.

I'm not talking about beating Itachi, which is impossible, thats why I didn't put her name in there as people who can break Tsukuyomi
 

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I don't think Tsunade is capable of breaking through Tsukuyomi, I think only another Sharingan user can do that or a jinchuriki.
Even is she did break through it, Amaterasu..Game Over.

I'm sorry... I've got something for you.

Tsunade breaks Tsukuyomi through chakra control thanks to her Yin Seal... read my previous post... then you mentioned Amaterasu ... Tsunade uses Byakugou no jutsu and Amaterassu is worthless. However, This is not a Tsunade vs Itachi thread, so, I don't see your point..
 
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