[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

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Did you look? Not trying to be mean, but I could swear he said this to Naruto. You can't base the Sharingans abilites off of the Rinnegans abilities. Besides, I don't recall seeing a clone during he Batlle at the Valley of the End.

Besides, if current theory comes true, either the 6 Paths Rinnegans are watered down versions or Nagatos rinnegan is incomplete.

Cya guys later.
yes sasuke said that to naruto but not bcoz he can see throuhg clones bcoz he can read naruto movments (there is a lot of difference reading a clone and a close friend).
 

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yes sasuke said that to naruto but not bcoz he can see throuhg clones bcoz he can read naruto movments (there is a lot of difference reading a clone and a close friend).
A clone is not a clone because its "pretty much" the same. The reason Kage Bushin is a FORBIDDEN Jutsu is because the clones are indistinguishable from the original. If your reffering to the fact that he knows what handisgn Naruto uses to cast Kagebushin then EVERYONE should know the difference when they fight Naruto.

Sorry friend, but I don't think this one adds up. Please feel free to rebutte me. Ill get to it when I stop, but I really gotta go now.
 

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About the Sharingan eye. I think that once an eye is bad or blind it is no longer good for implant anymore. We see this with Madara and his brother. Madara got his brother's good eyes and the brother was never heard from since.

We didn't see Hinata in this chapter. That's very odd.
So do you think Madara has been insisting on Sasuke to get Itachi's eyes for Sasuke to become sick?

If we consider whe wanted to make an Uchiha genocide 16 years ago, that could be.

But the eye transplant Madara is insisting on seems to be meant at upgrading his powers, so maybe the state the eyes are in won't matter.
 

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yes sasuke said that to naruto but not bcoz he can see throuhg clones bcoz he can read naruto movments (there is a lot of difference reading a clone and a close friend).
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A clone is not a clone because its "pretty much" the same. The reason Kage Bushin is a FORBIDDEN Jutsu is because the clones are indistinguishable from the original. If your reffering to the fact that he knows what handisgn Naruto uses to cast Kagebushin then EVERYONE should know the difference when they fight Naruto.

Sorry friend, but I don't think this one adds up. Please feel free to rebutte me. Ill get to it when I stop, but I really gotta go now.
My answer:

kyubikiran: Clones made by Naruto are of a different style, they are exact copy clones, not shadow clones. So for 90% of people in the Naruto world it is impossible to tell the difference between them.

Arisonius: Sasuke can read movements in advance with his Sharingan, and that was stated in the manga long ago (sorry, cannot provide chapter as I should review around 300!). Being able to guess what jutusu you do is an attribute of the Uchihas. So even if he couldn't read clones, he would be able to guess. No one is saying that anyone can tell who the real Naruto is, only Sharingan users.

Same goes for Kakashi. The day he first trained Team 7, Naruto made a lot of Kage Bushins and Kakashi was able to win over Naruto by making him fight against his bushins.
 
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My answer:

kyubikiran: Clones made by Naruto are of a different style, they are exact copy clones, not shadow clones. So for 90% of people in the Naruto world it is impossible to tell the difference between them.

Arisonius: Sasuke can read movements in advance with his Sharingan, and that was stated in the manga long ago (sorry, cannot provide chapter as I should review around 300!). Being able to guess what jutusu you do is an attribute of the Uchihas. So even if he couldn't read clones, he would be able to guess. No one is saying that anyone can tell who the real Naruto is, only Sharingan users.

Same goes for Kakashi. The day he first trained Team 7, Naruto made a lot of Kage Bushins and Kakashi was able to win over Naruto by making him fight against his bushins.
My argument is AGAINST Sauske not being able to see through clones. Not sure why you're debating me when Im on your side. LOL :D
 

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What about in the forest of death i can't remember if sasuke was using sharingan but team 7 came up against a shinobi who made shadow clones,sasuke knew that the real one wasn't there and naruto had to counter the guy with his shadow clones while sasuke tried to find the real one?.....not sure just thought i would ask my memory isn't what it was lol :D
 

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dont u see u all here predict..but no 1 has the same 1 and as i sow....u argue on them the only 1 who does know them is that kishi....if he doesent do as u think...u start complayning eint i right at least here...i know u do it 4 time 2 pass on....but u can do other stuff than sitting at a pc like a low life....no offense here;) any way sorry if i got you guyz the wrong ideea....about me and my dam replay....anyway;) i hope naruto dies by sasuke's kirin or sumthin like amatersu burning that crap nine tails fox:)))
Please, dude. Just don't ruin this forum. Go somewhere else. Or at least be quiet like me if you don't wanna contribute ur ideas.
 

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Please, dude. Just don't ruin this forum. Go somewhere else. Or at least be quiet like me if you don't wanna contribute ur ideas.
I do support you.
dont u see u all here predict..but no 1 has the same 1 and as i sow....u argue on them the only 1 who does know them is that kishi....if he doesent do as u think...u start complayning eint i right at least here...i know u do it 4 time 2 pass on....but u can do other stuff than sitting at a pc like a low life....no offense here;) any way sorry if i got you guyz the wrong ideea....about me and my dam replay....anyway;) i hope naruto dies by sasuke's kirin or sumthin like amatersu burning that crap nine tails fox:)))
This happens to be a PREDICTIONS forum, that's what it is for!

forum: place where people bring forward DIFFERENT ideas and discuss them. And members of the forum find it cool and funny to do so, we are not bored.

you are also sitting at a PC to annoy people, instead of participating, which is worst. What you are doing at a PC is low!
 
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Hi,

Kishi-san has given a rather dramatic tone to this whole fight.

He has brought us back into reality. Naruto is definetly getting stronger but still hell of lot to learn. Naruto has so far exposed very little strong jutsus compared to other characters.
As far as I can tell, he has learned the rasengan, the Futon Rasengan shuriken, the kage bunshin.... Anything else? That's still nothing compared to the others. Yes he's got loads of chakra but both form are far too risky.

This allows Kishi-san to just expand the story as he like. At this stage, I feel like we've only been two days into Naruto's life and there is a lot more to come.

Pein most likely is going to retreat because the villagers will found him out. This theory is gaining more strength.

I don't think we are going to see any life saving jutsus from anybody. We are going to see quite a dramatic number of people dead. Shizune, Kakashi, Pa & others death will fuel our anger against Pein. Naruto killing Pein in an instant with his new sage chakra would have been too shallow.
Anger will make Naruto & Konoha stronger. Maybe we are going to learn more about those Anbu's. So far, they have been depicted as weaklings.

Predictions? Well Pain might tell us about his version of peace(finally). This sounds like Anakin Skywalker, who wants to be a dictator in order to bring peace to the universe.
About the end of 436, Pein will start to retreat, or possibly be captured. (Not the real body)

Interesting....
:akatsuki:
don't say that kakashi will die, kishi would not let him dead - there was no confirmation, like shizune's, jiraiya's - its just hang ups...ill bet 150 USD for this hehehe
:hinata: :naruto:
 
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i dont understand , why all of you thinks that Naruto still can beet gods realm?
After he has his gravity power back he is way tj strong for Naruto . Kakashi and Choji couldnt
beet him (even when they understood his abilities) . And Kakashi was the most powerfull jonin in Konoha ...
But still we dont know what Kishi is thinking about , so there can be any posibility ...
he'll beat pain up...nobody in konoha standed a chance on him, meaning its naruto's time to really shine - logically speaking, he's the main character of the story...he will not need any help from his co-ninjas...he's fighting alone with his summons and will remain that way till he beat pain up... :hidan:
 

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My answer:

Arisonius: Sasuke can read movements in advance with his Sharingan, and that was stated in the manga long ago (sorry, cannot provide chapter as I should review around 300!). Being able to guess what jutusu you do is an attribute of the Uchihas. So even if he couldn't read clones, he would be able to guess. No one is saying that anyone can tell who the real Naruto is, only Sharingan users.

Same goes for Kakashi. The day he first trained Team 7, Naruto made a lot of Kage Bushins and Kakashi was able to win over Naruto by making him fight against his bushins.

my friend, sasuke only read movements and predicts the next one...meaning if he errs on his prediction, (ex. i predicted a left punch but a right punch was thrown...) he'll be in deep shit as well (refer to chapter wherein naruto and sasuke where fighting in the valley of the end) there's no such thing as reading it in advance - maybe yes if sasuke has a crystal ball implanted inside his brain...

re-watch the anime series, watch how they get confused with naruto's clones...they always fight it as a real...
besides, you know why kakashi made him fight his bunshins? because he doesn't know where the real thing was so its like the strategy for kiba and akamaru when they fought naruto...naruto changed his identity to kiba ayt?
 
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My answer:

kyubikiran: Clones made by Naruto are of a different style, they are exact copy clones, not shadow clones. So for 90% of people in the Naruto world it is impossible to tell the difference between them.

Arisonius: Sasuke can read movements in advance with his Sharingan, and that was stated in the manga long ago (sorry, cannot provide chapter as I should review around 300!). Being able to guess what jutusu you do is an attribute of the Uchihas. So even if he couldn't read clones, he would be able to guess. No one is saying that anyone can tell who the real Naruto is, only Sharingan users.

Same goes for Kakashi. The day he first trained Team 7, Naruto made a lot of Kage Bushins and Kakashi was able to win over Naruto by making him fight against his bushins.
hey....sorry no offence.....but i think ur mixin chakra sensing n movement reading with clones.......the uchihas can c charka....as already told by saske ......but he neva said he can tell the diff between a clone n real.....he can only tell by prediction of chakra n movement!!!!!!!

peace....... nways.... i found this chapter rather boring....we pretty much at the same place we were last time..... n now my prediction:

KISHI is gonna waste an issue explainin PAINS peace..... then ANOTHER ISSUE to tell tht pain is in tht MISTERIOUS tower in the rain villige!!!!!!!!!

ITS BEEN 4 MONTHS since PAINS invasion....ABT TIME TO END IT!!!!!!...dont u agree???? need ur feedbak on this...
 
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my friend, sasuke only read movements and predicts the next one...meaning if he errs on his prediction, (ex. i predicted a left punch but a right punch was thrown...) he'll be in deep shit as well (refer to chapter wherein naruto and sasuke where fighting in the valley of the end) there's no such thing as reading it in advance - maybe yes if sasuke has a crystal ball implanted inside his brain...

re-watch the anime series, watch how they get confused with naruto's clones...they always fight it as a real...
besides, you know why kakashi made him fight his bunshins? because he doesn't know where the real thing was so its like the strategy for kiba and akamaru when they fought naruto...naruto changed his identity to kiba ayt?
First of all, I appreciate you defending your veiw point, even if I do disagree. It gives something to think about.

Secondly, you're wrong. There is absolutley no predicition involved with th Sharingan. It can see and comprehend with a speed that is unequaled to the speed of ANY shinobi. What this means is that, as you start to do something, the Sharingan sees, deciphers, and then allows the sharingan user to to act based upon the actions of his opponet. That being said, if the user cannot cope with the speed of his opponent, the Shringan pretty much becomes a tool for seeing the blow that's going to whomp you, because you're too slow to react. (See: Sauske vs RockLee)

The aspect of the Sharingan that allows a user to "predict" an opponents movements "before" is a genjutsu. The best example of this is Zabuza VS Kakashi with the summoning of the water dragons. Zabuza notices that he feels like he's being hypnotized by the Shringan, Haku later confirms that this is true.

Sharingan users always fight Narutos clones as though their fighting the real Naruto? I seriously don't know how you can even say that. The only fight Naruto has really been in for an extended period of time is his fight with Sauske. The only thing that might support this portion of your theory is Kakashi VS Itachi, but it dosnt because Kakashi was surprised that Itachi DIDN'T SEE THROUGH HIS CLONE TECHNIQUE. The only reason is because it wasn't Itachi. That being said, I don't think any enemy of Naruto has ever used a Ninjutsu against his clones ( save to get rid of a large amount of them. We rarely see a clone fight 1:1 with an enemy, if we ever have. )

As flor Kiba Vs Naruto, this point doesn't even make sense. Naruto used a Transformation Jutsu, Im pretty sure (if I remember correctly) that it was the real Naruto who transformed, and the onloy reason Akamaru couldn't see through the transformation are two fold: 1. He's a dog. He dosnt have dojutsu. 2. Naruto stole Kibas scent, though I don't remember how.

Fell free to comment.
 

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Sure maybe soo , but pain is also one persone(7 bodys just like 7 sage KB)Pain is strong and Madara , i gues , is stronger than he.If naruto cant kill 6 pains bodys ,how could he be able to kill Madara and Nagato himself...
Pain?s bodies aren?t like naruto?s Kage Bunshins. Naruto doesn?t control the bunshins..., they act completely by themselves, and when they vanish, Naruto gains the knowledge they gained in battle..., while Nagato handles all of Pain?s bodies at the same time..., he makes the strategy for all of them..., it?s quite different.

Nagato looks at seven different spots at the same time.

Pain rules.
 
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