[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

[Itachi169]

Ahh, but I have an answer to why he may still be going blind even AFTER getting Itachi's eyes: Itachi was sick.

No one knows what affliction Itachi had, and if it affected his eyesight he may very well have continued down the path of macular degeneration even with an Eternal Magekenyo Sharingan. If this is the case, and Sauske does have Itacis eyes, it might explain why Sauske is going blind.

As for why Amaterasu only comes from one eye, I believe this is simply the way of the Mageenyo Sharingan. I think someone noted once that Itachi cast Amaterasu from one eye and his Kalidascope Genjutsu from the othr. Any evidence to bac this up? Anyone?

I wonder if that sickness Itachi had suffered from was a result of the multiple times he had used his Mangekyou Sharingan and his own Sharingan. Perhaps this explains why Sasuke is losing his vision so early. It is the first stage of the Mangekyou Sharingan then later use of it may develop the same sickness that Itachi possessed. Though no evidence could back this up. However, what you say is true Itachi however, cast Amaterasu from his right eye which is odd how Sasuke's mangekyou produces amaterasu from his left eye and Itachi's left eye produced Tsukuyomi. This may in turn, not allow Sasuke to produce Tsukuyomi then again, to why their eyes develop the opposite techniques is a mystery to me.

 

[Roclee]

About the Sharingan eye. I think that once an eye is bad or blind it is no longer good for implant anymore. We see this with Madara and his brother. Madara got his brother's good eyes and the brother was never heard from since.

We didn't see Hinata in this chapter. That's very odd.

 

[Arisonius]

About the Sharingan eye. I think that once an eye is bad or blind it is no longer good for implant anymore. We see this with Madara and his brother. Madara got his brother's good eyes and the brother was never heard from since.

We didn't see Hinata in this chapter. That's very odd.

I will post real quick for you Roclee but then I really am going to be.

That may be the case, but remember that both Madara and his brother had Magekenyo Sharingan and presumably both made use of it. Not a whole lot was said about Madara's brother's eyesight, so we can't assume that it was perfect, but I don't think we should assume he was blind either.

In any case, I think that Madara would find Itachi's eyes, blindess or no blindness, far too valuable to simply throw away.

And with that, I bid you all good night.

That is all, for now.

 

[Roclee]

I will post real quick for you Roclee but then I really am going to be.

That may be the case, but remember that both Madara and his brother had Magekenyo Sharingan and presumably both made use of it. Not a whole lot was said about Madara's brother's eyesight, so we can't assume that it was perfect, but I don't think we should assume he was blind either.

In any case, I think that Madara would find Itachi's eyes, blindess or no blindness, far too valuable to simply throw away.

And with that, I bid you all good night.

That is all, for now.

Speaking about eyes. When the Uchiha clan was killed couldn't Madara stock up on those eyes. lol

 

[Itachi_theone]

Well pain better chooses his words carefully orelse naruto might ignite his will of fire

 

[kyubikiran]

Speaking about eyes. When the Uchiha clan was killed couldn't Madara stock up on those eyes. lol

may be itachi didnt allow madara to take the eyes of his clan members, as we all know itachi true intention was to stop madara from attacking konoha.

 

[Japhrimu]

Sorry. I don't know what's on pages 6-9. I'll read them later. I just wanted to get online and brag a little bit. I wasn't able to read or reply to any of the posts since this morning cause I was out and about, and as some of you know, I'm deploying soon, so I went out to the club tonight. I was making out with this hot chick. It's not like I've never done this before, but I'm not married, and I don't have a girlfriend, and I was really needing this this weekend, if there ever was a weekend to need it. I thought I was gonna get to 'hang out' with this 40 or so year old (hey, even older chicks need some loving. Ask Tsunade.), but her daughter ended up liking me more... Yeah!... Anyways, nothing 'super important' happened, but I'll get to hang out with THEM tomorrow. I'll let you all know the good news, if there is any. Then again, if you want an update, just send a private message, and I'll get back to you. To make this post Naruto related, I think the Kyuubi will come out, just because in some supposed interview with Kishi, he said the 9-tails will be making an appearance early in the year. Too much later than now, and it's not early in the year. I don't think foxy will show up this next chapter, just because it's an information divulging chapter. Not an action one, like the last few.

 

[Arisonius]

Sorry. I don't know what's on pages 6-9. I'll read them later. I just wanted to get online and brag a little bit. I wasn't able to read or reply to any of the posts since this morning cause I was out and about, and as some of you know, I'm deploying soon, so I went out to the club tonight. I was making out with this hot chick. It's not like I've never done this before, but I'm not married, and I don't have a girlfriend, and I was really needing this this weekend, if there ever was a weekend to need it. I thought I was gonna get to 'hang out' with this 40 or so year old (hey, even older chicks need some loving. Ask Tsunade.), but her daughter ended up liking me more... Yeah!... Anyways, nothing 'super important' happened, but I'll get to hang out with THEM tomorrow. I'll let you all know the good news, if there is any. Then again, if you want an update, just send a private message, and I'll get back to you. To make this post Naruto related, I think the Kyuubi will come out, just because in some supposed interview with Kishi, he said the 9-tails will be making an appearance early in the year. Too much later than now, and it's not early in the year. I don't think foxy will show up this next chapter, just because it's an information divulging chapter. Not an action one, like the last few.

To quote The Waterboy "Yo Ken Dew Eet!"

Anyway, be sure to read those pages. Excellent discussions with Sauske Uzumaki, dredblack7, itachi167, and a few others. Just because I didn't nae you doesn't mean I devalue your posts. These are just the people I remember after rolling over and being waken up by a disturbing nightmare.

 

[Kushina Uzuma]

Personally I think the 4th sealed the white fang chakra into kakashi, and he is changing him somehow.

I also think naruto will go into fox mode and then summon the last bushin to assert control over the kyubi.

He will then find out his dad is #1 bad guy. but will naruto be able to kill his own father?

I just pull the last one out of my arse.

Just my thoughts....could it be the White Fang who sealed himself his chakra into kakashi?
Why should be #1 bad guy if at the last time he's mentioned, he was quite a successful-happy man: hokage, respected, with a beloved woman, beloved son...can't see any background for such radical changes.

Hi community!
2-) I guess Tsunade will die bring Naruto back to life, like the old hag from Suna did to Gaara

3-) I don't think Kakashi is dead, but I do want to know what really happened to Rin and what his fatter has to tell him (when they will turn Kakashi Gaiden in an anime????)

2) What if the village gets rid of Pein, Naruto will be the coolest in the end of this fight and Tsunade will decide to bring Shizune back?

3) Kakashi is alive! I'm sure about it more definitely with every coming chapter!

I really appreciated the prediction of ssanimo - looks like the most possible/desirable.

And, Japhrium, thanks for your posts, they are reaally funny, even when they are not about manga)))) Keep on posting more often, pleeeeeease!

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Okay, after rereading Naruto 417 I have a few points I'd like to bring up for discussion, sorry if these have already been discussed, I joind Narutobase after 417:

1. In 417 Sauske Uchiha is ased by Suigetsu if he thinks he will get the eight tails power. This leads me to believe that Akatsuki plans on splitting the Bijuus powers up amongst its members.

2. In 417 Sauske Uchiha says that it doesn't matter. He has a "new" power that can destroy Konoha. Is he talking about Amaterasu? I don't think so because its a power he's already used, but its possible because in that chapter, or actually just previously, he learns he can control Ameterasu.

3. I think I have to point this out: Sauske Uchiha is stronger than Killerbee. The ONLY reason Killerbee escaped is because the eight tails gave up a tail.

4. Will the eight tails regain his tail, or is Killerbee gimped now?

5. I find it interesting that Sauske and Madara both couldn't telgl the difference between a real killerbee and the tail clone. I thought Sharingan could see through clones? Is it just because it was a Tailed Beast Clone? If so, this could be interesting if the tailed beasts can create clones that can fool even Dojutsu.

- Madara says that they have to wait fr Pein, but later on we see them sealing the Killrbee Clone.

1. Who summoned the statue? Madara? Wouldn't his give him away?!

2. Why do they have to wait for Pein? Was he just reffering to waiting for Pein to bring back Kyuubi?

1 - In 417, Sasuke tells his team that he doubts he will be given the 8-tails, so he does not believe the bijuus will be split among members (begings in bottom of page 7)

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2 - It may be the power to control amaterazu, but I guess he's speaking about something new.

3 - Sasuke got almost killed twice. Killerbee may not have powers of his own, but he definitely knows how to control the 8-tails.

4 - No idea, plus the 8-tailed beast says he lost "several limbs" not only one. (bottom of page)

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5 - I always kept wondering if Sasuke actually knew that was not the real one, or if he was unable to use his SHaringan as he was feeling exhausted from almost dying twice.

But the fact a clone is made by a tailed beast does not matter, Uchihas can read that. In fact, when Sasuke fought against Naruto, he told him making clones was useless as he could read who the real one was.

Madara: I wonder if he just changed his mind, but the statue is not summoned, it is in the Akatsuki hideout.

Watining for Pain: the ceremony is shorter when there are more members. In previous ceremonies, when Itachi was alive, all of them were there.

But he may have refered to wait for Pain in order to unleash all the beasts with the 9-tails. The 9-tails is said to control all of them.

 

[Arisonius]

1 - In 417, Sasuke tells his team that he doubts he will be given the 8-tails, so he does not believe the bijuus will be split among members (begings in bottom of page 7)

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2 - It may be the power to control amaterazu, but I guess he's speaking about something new.

3 - Sasuke got almost killed twice. Killerbee may not have powers of his own, but he definitely knows how to control the 8-tails.

4 - No idea, plus the 8-tailed beast says he lost "several limbs" not only one. (bottom of page)

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5 - I always kept wondering if Sasuke actually knew that was not the real one, or if he was unable to use his SHaringan as he was feeling exhausted from almost dying twice.

But the fact a clone is made by a tailed beast does not matter, Uchihas can read that. In fact, when Sasuke fought against Naruto, he told him making clones was useless as he could read who the real one was.

Madara: I wonder if he just changed his mind, but the statue is not summoned, it is in the Akatsuki hideout.

Watining for Pain: the ceremony is shorter when there are more members. In previous ceremonies, when Itachi was alive, all of them were there.

But he may have refered to wait for Pain in order to unleash all the beasts with the 9-tails. The 9-tails is said to control all of them.

1. I don't think it was a chapter afterwards, I think it was the same chapter, as I referenced this during comment 2. He is asked by Suigetsu "Hey Sauske, do you think you'll get the Eight Tails" to whch he replies "Heh, I have no idea... but I don't think Ill have to rely on it now." I pointed this out because it shows pretty clearly that Akatsuki DOES plan on splitting the Bijuus up between its members. I don't think weve seen Sauske since 417.

2. Same here, weve seen a lot of interesting new jutsu from Sauske. Seems like every time we see him he's learned something new.

3. Agreed, but Killer Bee definatley has his own skills. After all, he can rap. LOL J/K. But seriously, he wears the Hidden Clouds forehead protector, and as we know, only Shinobi are given those.

4. Ahh, thank you for pointing this out. It bolsters my theory that Saske is stronger than Killer Bee.

5. This doesn't make sense. Sauske would have had to have Magekenyo Sharingan active in order to sedate Amaterasu's flames. Im sure that's when we first see Killer Bees "corpse".

Although I agree with you, the sharingan can see through clones, I have not been able to find the manga to back this theory up.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

1. I don't think it was a chapter afterwards, I think it was the same chapter, as I referenced this during comment 2. He is asked by Suigetsu "Hey Sauske, do you think you'll get the Eight Tails" to whch he replies "Heh, I have no idea... but I don't think Ill have to rely on it now." I pointed this out because it shows pretty clearly that Akatsuki DOES plan on splitting the Bijuus up between its members. I don't think weve seen Sauske since 417.

5. This doesn't make sense. Sauske would have had to have Magekenyo Sharingan active in order to sedate Amaterasu's flames. Im sure that's when we first see Killer Bees "corpse".

Although I agree with you, the sharingan can see through clones, I have not been able to find the manga to back this theory up.

ok, point N?1, I was changing the words "future chapter" for "417" as you posted.

Point 5, Sasuke was focused on saving Karin, he was not looking at Killerbee at the moment. That may have diverted his attention. Madara is a shell of his former self according to Itachi, so he may have his weak points.

And the chapter where Sasuke says he can see through clones: have not found it either, but it was either when they fought on a roof, or at the Valley of the End when they are on the water.

 

[kyubikiran]

1 - In 417, Sasuke tells his team that he doubts he will be given the 8-tails, so he does not believe the bijuus will be split among members (begings in bottom of page 7)

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2 - It may be the power to control amaterazu, but I guess he's speaking about something new.

3 - Sasuke got almost killed twice. Killerbee may not have powers of his own, but he definitely knows how to control the 8-tails.

4 - No idea, plus the 8-tailed beast says he lost "several limbs" not only one. (bottom of page)

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5 - I always kept wondering if Sasuke actually knew that was not the real one, or if he was unable to use his SHaringan as he was feeling exhausted from almost dying twice.

But the fact a clone is made by a tailed beast does not matter, Uchihas can read that. In fact, when Sasuke fought against Naruto, he told him making clones was useless as he could read who the real one was.

Madara: I wonder if he just changed his mind, but the statue is not summoned, it is in the Akatsuki hideout.

Watining for Pain: the ceremony is shorter when there are more members. In previous ceremonies, when Itachi was alive, all of them were there.

But he may have refered to wait for Pain in order to unleash all the beasts with the 9-tails. The 9-tails is said to control all of them.

i dont find any evidence for ur theory that sharingan can see through clones, if its possible rinnigan could have easily find out that and captured naruto in the begining of fight itself...

 

[Arisonius]

ok, point N?1, I was changing the words "future chapter" for "417" as you posted.

Point 5, Sasuke was focused on saving Karin, he was not looking at Killerbee at the moment. That may have diverted his attention. Madara is a shell of his former self according to Itachi, so he may have his weak points.

And the chapter where Sasuke says he can see through clones: have not found it either, but it was either when they fought on a roof, or at the Valley of the End when they are on the water.

Seems like for the most part we agree Im a quick responder usually, so sorry if I snagged ya befre you got a chance to edit.

By they way, did you see my hearty Thank You for your timeline post? Very nice job there.

oh, and you could be rght. Sauske may have been distracted by Karin, and Madara has been said to be a shell of his former self by Konan as well. ( I think we see this when he gives pein the order to cApture Kyuubi. Correct me if Im wrong. )

The question I haven't seen answered (except for a possible answer in the Tengu Theory) is why is Madara a shell of his former self? Everone in the manga agrees he has Eternal Makegenyo Sharingan, and that's supposed to be godly if rumor is true. If he's a shell of his former self, and Pein STILL takes orders from him plus Im sure Itachi wouldve dealt with him, that must mean that even in the shape he's in now he's a hard fight.

Anyway, things to think about while Im away. Discuss, post, share your theories. I will be back in 12+ hours.

That is all, for now.
( By the way, you all are giving me a lot of fun with this back and forth discussion. I REALLY enjoy it. Thank you. )

 

[Devlin]

i dont find any evidence for ur theory that sharingan can see through clones, if its possible rinnigan could have easily find out that and captured naruto in the begining of fight itself...

Not exactly true as the sharingan and rinnigan have different attributes....as sharingan can see through techniques and copy them i.e. kakashi 'the copy ninja'

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

Speaking about eyes. When the Uchiha clan was killed couldn't Madara stock up on those eyes. lol

What an idea, lol. But not every Uchiha was powerful. I guess they had civilians as well. Plus if Madara thought he was the only one left alive, and he already had EMS, there was no point in storying eyes.

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The question I haven't seen answered (except for a possible answer in the Tengu Theory) is why is Madara a shell of his former self? Everone in the manga agrees he has Eternal Makegenyo Sharingan, and that's supposed to be godly if rumor is true. If he's a shell of his former self, and Pein STILL takes orders from him plus Im sure Itachi wouldve dealt with him, that must mean that even in the shape he's in now he's a hard fight...

Ah, thanks for thanking.

I have no idea about that, either. But I always understood that Madara has been the strongest Uchiha ever, so the phrase means "he's the strongest but someone can surpass him". Maybe Itachi said that to give Sasuke some spirit to fight him.

 

[Arisonius]

i dont find any evidence for ur theory that sharingan can see through clones, if its possible rinnigan could have easily find out that and captured naruto in the begining of fight itself...

Did you look? Not trying to be mean, but I could swear he said this to Naruto. You can't base the Sharingans abilites off of the Rinnegans abilities. Besides, I don't recall seeing a clone during he Batlle at the Valley of the End.

Besides, if current theory comes true, either the 6 Paths Rinnegans are watered down versions or Nagatos rinnegan is incomplete.

Cya guys later.

 

[kyubikiran]

Not exactly true as the sharingan and rinnigan have different attributes....as sharingan can see through techniques and copy them i.e. kakashi 'the copy ninja'

ya they have different attributes wat i m trying to say sharingan or rinnigan cant see through the clones, thats the reason shadow clone jutuse is considered as A-rank technique.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

i dont find any evidence for ur theory that sharingan can see through clones, if its possible rinnigan could have easily find out that and captured naruto in the begining of fight itself...

It's not a theory, Sasuke once told Naruto that it was pointless for Naruto to fight against him with clones as he could read who the real one was.

But I cannot find the manga, sorry.

 

[Devlin]

ya they have different attributes wat i m trying to say sharingan or rinnigan cant see through the clones, thats the reason shadow clone jutuse is considered as A-rank technique.

I think you should watch the fight where sasuke and naruto are fighting on the water....how many shadow clones does naruto use?...... and what does sasuke say to him?.....i just recommend you watch this fight and listen carefully....