[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

[Sly Anbu]

I preict the next jutsu Naruto learns is going to be:
Fuuton: Oodoma RasenShuriken

OR

Fuuton: 1000 Years Of Death: 1000 Mini-RasenShurikens! ( I just added 1000 year sof death of Kakashi sake. )

Lols !! Actually I wouldn't be surprised... no lie.
Rasengan, Oodama rasengan, Fuuton rasenshuriken, double rasengan, double oodama rasengan, fuuton rasenshuriken, sage tech rasengan.... and the list goes on hahaha.

 

[Arisonius]

Beautifully said my friend, I was thinking the exact same thing there, but Sasuke severely underestimated Killer-Bee's natural skill and the unleashing of the full 8 tails (he only dealt with a maximum of 2 tails before with Naruto, he was basing his judgement on that estimate).

On another note, Kishimoto has a way of keeping some things to himself, even when they become obvious to the community, he will not affirm it until the end.

Well said.

I agree completely, Sauske did under-estimate. However, I see no reason why Sauske should have thought that Killer Bee could use all Eight Tails. Its unfathomable. I mean, Naruto starts to lose himself with the fourth tail, how could Sauske have known killer Bee could use al eight and keep his sanity?

Honestly, I think any one of the Akatsuki members would have done the exact same thing as Sauske, I don't think it was arrogance on his part.

I do, however, remember the Twwo Tails using both tails, but Hidan and Kakuzu are both dead, so perhaps they didn't share this information

Also, that being said, the more tails you have increasesyour power exponentially. I don't think anyone could have foreseen Killer Bee using all eight tails and not losing himself, not even the readers, especially given Naruto as our case study.

 

[Kyuubi XZ]

That was a great chapter! It was kinda predictable tho. I think everyone agrees that the coolest thing to happen right now is:

Naruto releases 4 tails.... and before he looses control he releases the last clone putting himself in control of the fox using the natural chakra and become DEMON SAGE MODE!!!!!!

Why would kishi have a sage mode and a fox mode if Naruto is only goin to use one of them. Why not combine them?

 

[Arisonius]

That was a great chapter! It was kinda predictable tho. I think everyone agrees that the coolest thing to happen right now is:

Naruto releases 4 tails.... and before he looses control he releases the last clone putting himself in control of the fox using the natural chakra and become DEMON SAGE MODE!!!!!!

Why would kishi have a sage mode and a fox mode if Naruto is only goin to use one of them. Why not combine them?

Sage mode and Kyuubi may not be compatable. That's a possible eason Ma and Pa can't fuse with Naruto.

And before anyone corrects me I know that San - Female, Chan - Male, but Sai is such panzy I opted too insult him.

 

[Arisonius]

By the way: GREAT JOB PEICING THE TIMELINE TOGETHER SAUSKE UZAMAKI!

It can sometimes get difficult to track some things, especially when the manga jumps around as much as it was during that time period.

My hat's off to you.

 

[ssanimo]

Sage mode and Kyuubi may not be compatable. That's a possible eason Ma and Pa can't fuse with Naruto.

And before anyone corrects me I know that San - Female, Chan - Male, but Sai is such panzy I opted too insult him.

i believe you got it backwards......maybe wrong

8 tails was way stronger than sasuke......he was toying with him until the amaterasu the 8 tails even said "why did u summon me when u already had the upper hand?" he was 5 tails b4 that.....meaning he was stronger than sasuke with just 5 tails

goku san....daniel san yea i think thats it....cant think of a san used in naruto but ino its sakura-chan/naruto-kun

edit~ah ok now i see what u were sayin 0_0

 

[Itachi169]

I wonder if Naruto could use the Nine tailed foxes chakra to replenish his own rather than turning into the fox but carry an unlimited source of chakra to regain his sage mode at any time he chooses

 

[Arisonius]

i believe you got it backwards......maybe wrong

8 tails was way stronger than sasuke......he was toying with him until the amaterasu the 8 tails even said "why did u summon me when u already had the upper hand?" he was 5 tails b4 that.....meaning he was stronger than sasuke with just 5 tails

goku san....daniel san yea i think thats it....cant think of a san used in naruto but ino its sakura-chan/naruto-kun

edit~ah ok now i see what u were sayin 0_0

I see what you're saying, but Im still not convinced.

I think that if Sauske had gone in, guns blazing (i.e. Magekenyo Sharingan) he would have won. Like I said, I think he wanted to test himself. I don't think he was expecting Killer Bee to go Five Tails let alone Eight. Im pretty sure right after Bee brings out the Tails he brings out Sharingan.

I can't say for sure, because we really only have an incomplete fight to base our analysis off of.

 

[Arisonius]

I wonder if Naruto could use the Nine tailed foxes chakra to replenish his own rather than turning into the fox but carry an unlimited source of chakra to regain his sage mode at any time he chooses

Although I think this theory is interesting, Im going to have to go with no.

Every time we see chakra utilized by a shinobi it is blue Every time wee see a Bijuus chakra it has color. This leads me to believe that these are two completely different TYPES of chakra and that one cannot be converted into the other. Besides, if this were the case we might just as well see Kyuubi absorbing Naruto's chakra forcing him to rely on Kyuubi.

 

[Itachi169]

I see what you're saying, but Im still not convinced.

I think that if Sauske had gone in, guns blazing (i.e. Magekenyo Sharingan) he would have won. Like I said, I think he wanted to test himself. I don't think he was expecting Killer Bee to go Five Tails let alone Eight. Im pretty sure right after Bee brings out the Tails he brings out Sharingan.

I can't say for sure, because we really only have an incomplete fight to base our analysis off of.

Perhaps but Sasuke had not yet mastered activating the Magkenyo Sharingan and merely out of whim and desperation was he able to pull out Amaterasu in the first place. But once mastered I agree that he would possibly be able to defeat him, I was more impressed to see that he was able to stop Amaterasu in his first use of it well second if you count the implent from Itachi. Even so, Sasuke's vision has already begun to fail due to the use of the Magkenyo so he must watch how many times he uses it especially if his plans are too attack Konoha

 

[Arisonius]

Awww, dredblack7 went away. Damn, we were having a really good, thought provoking, discussion too.

 

[Itachi169]

Although I think this theory is interesting, Im going to have to go with no.

Every time we see chakra utilized by a shinobi it is blue Every time wee see a Bijuus chakra it has color. This leads me to believe that these are two completely different TYPES of chakra and that one cannot be converted into the other. Besides, if this were the case we might just as well see Kyuubi absorbing Naruto's chakra forcing him to rely on Kyuubi.

Indeed that was the rebuttle I predicted as well especially after that filler episode with Sora who also contained chakra remnents from the Nine tailed fox which reacted with Naruto's actual fox causing the chakra to release itself. I was astonished how Naruto was able to supress the chakra as well but it would be an interesting theory nonetheless.

 

[Arisonius]

Perhaps but Sasuke had not yet mastered activating the Magkenyo Sharingan and merely out of whim and desperation was he able to pull out Amaterasu in the first place. But once mastered I agree that he would possibly be able to defeat him, I was more impressed to see that he was able to stop Amaterasu in his first use of it well second if you count the implent from Itachi. Even so, Sasuke's vision has already begun to fail due to the use of the Magkenyo so he must watch how many times he uses it especially if his plans are too attack Konoha

I agree. Amaterasu is isanely powerful. I wonder what ever became of Jiraya's analysis of Amaterasu. Remember, he sealed some away on a scroll?

Anyway, it leaves me wondering "Why?" Why is Sauske's sight already diminishing after only two uses of the Magekenyo Sharingan? I know that perpetuates the users blindness, but I thought it would be a bit more gradual than wha we are seeing. Itachi, presumably, kept his eyesight for YEARS after activating Magekenyo Sharingan, and we KNOW he used it more than twice! Once on Sauske as a child, once on Kakashi, once to escape Jiraya's Mountain Frog's Stomach Jutsu, and who knows how many other times he may have used it when we weren't looking.

That being said, I think either Madara or Itachi may have accelerated his blindess. Perhaps each for their own reasons, but with one goal in mind: To get Sauske to take Itachi's eyes.

I have a hard time believing that Madara would just cast them aside and wouldn't preserve them.

That is, of course, if the eyes Sauske is using are not already Itachi's. *evil grin* No one knows what happened to Sauske while he was sleeping after his battle with Itachi.

 

[Arisonius]

Indeed that was the rebuttle I predicted as well especially after that filler episode with Sora who also contained chakra remnents from the Nine tailed fox which reacted with Naruto's actual fox causing the chakra to release itself. I was astonished how Naruto was able to supress the chakra as well but it would be an interesting theory nonetheless.

Yeah, that was an interesting episode. Here is something interesting: It is said that Minato only sealed half of the Kyuubi's chakra into Naruto. If this is the case, why does turning the seal unlock the other half? (As seen by Jiraya using they Key Frog to turn unlock narutos seal only a slight bit, and he went four tails on Jiraya.)
If the other half is not inside Naruto then it must be inside the Key Frog right? I wonder if the Key Frog ever goes Kyuubi Mode...

 

[Itachi169]

I agree. Amaterasu is isanely powerful. I wonder what ever became of Jiraya's analysis of Amaterasu. Remember, he sealed some away on a scroll?

Anyway, it leaves me wondering "Why?" Why is Sauske's sight already diminishing after only two uses of the Magekenyo Sharingan? I know that perpetuates the users blindness, but I thought it would be a bit more gradual than wha we are seeing. Itachi, presumably, kept his eyesight for YEARS after activating Magekenyo Sharingan, and we KNOW he used it more than twice! Once on Sauske as a child, once on Kakashi, once to escape Jiraya's Mountain Frog's Stomach Jutsu, and who knows how many other times he may have used it when we weren't looking.

That being said, I think either Madara or Itachi may have accelerated his blindess. Perhaps each for their own reasons, but with one goal in mind: To get Sauske to take Itachi's eyes.

I have a hard time believing that Madara would just cast them aside and wouldn't preserve them.

That is, of course, if the eyes Sauske is using are not already Itachi's. *evil grin* No one knows what happened to Sauske while he was sleeping after his battle with Itachi.

It may have to do witht he way Sasuke recieved his Mangekyou Sharingan. Remember the scroll of the Uchiha Clan states or as Itachi says it you must kill someone very close to you. Although Itachi was close to Sasuke seeing as they are brothers, his death triggered what was needed for Sasuke to recieve his Mangekyou but Itachi may have interfered when transfering his eye techniques into Sasuke which as you said may have altered the Sharingan in Sasuke's eye. Other than that, my second theory would be that Sasuke's eye sight is diminishing faster by his use of the Sharingan. Itachi mainly has his sharingan active at all times while Sasuke uses his in battle. Perhaps the longer the normal Sharingan is used the more the eye is developed for the use of the Mangekyou. This theory still needs more evidence though.

 

[Itachi169]

I doubt the eyes he has now are Itachi's because if they were implanted into his eyes he would not be going blind due to the use of the Mangekyou since when implanted with a sibliings sharingan should negate the effects from the sharingan. Though it does answer a sticky question of why only his left eye promotes a Mangekyou Sharingan.

 

[Arisonius]

It may have to do witht he way Sasuke recieved his Mangekyou Sharingan. Remember the scroll of the Uchiha Clan states or as Itachi says it you must kill someone very close to you. Although Itachi was close to Sasuke seeing as they are brothers, his death triggered what was needed for Sasuke to recieve his Mangekyou but Itachi may have interfered when transfering his eye techniques into Sasuke which as you said may have altered the Sharingan in Sasuke's eye. Other than that, my second theory would be that Sasuke's eye sight is diminishing faster by his use of the Sharingan. Itachi mainly has his sharingan active at all times while Sasuke uses his in battle. Perhaps the longer the normal Sharingan is used the more the eye is developed for the use of the Mangekyou. This theory still needs more evidence though.

You do bring up a good point. Also, that's my main reasoning as well. Too much power too quickly often results in negative consequences.

As for Itachi always having his Sharingan activated the theory goes that he was blind without it. If this is the case we may start to see Sauske use the regular Sharingan more and more frequently as his condition worsens.

 

[Arisonius]

I doubt the eyes he has now are Itachi's because if they were implanted into his eyes he would not be going blind due to the use of the Mangekyou since when implanted with a sibliings sharingan should negate the effects from the sharingan. Though it does answer a sticky question of why only his left eye promotes a Mangekyou Sharingan.

Ahh, but I have an answer to why he may still be going blind even AFTER getting Itachi's eyes: Itachi was sick.

No one knows what affliction Itachi had, and if it affected his eyesight he may very well have continued down the path of macular degeneration even with an Eternal Magekenyo Sharingan. If this is the case, and Sauske does have Itacis eyes, it might explain why Sauske is going blind.

As for why Amaterasu only comes from one eye, I believe this is simply the way of the Mageenyo Sharingan. I think someone noted once that Itachi cast Amaterasu from one eye and his Kalidascope Genjutsu from the othr. Any evidence to bac this up? Anyone?

 

[Itachi169]

You do bring up a good point. Also, that's my main reasoning as well. Too much power too quickly often results in negative consequences.

As for Itachi always having his Sharingan activated the theory goes that he was blind without it. If this is the case we may start to see Sauske use the regular Sharingan more and more frequently as his condition worsens.

Thats a good theory perhaps Itachi could not see with his normal eyes and needed the Sharingan to see at all times. Now that you mention, the only moment I have seen Itachi without his sharingan would be in the flashbacks and after he used Amaterasu to escape the toads stomach when in the air his sharingan had failed him and he needed to rest. I think that it will be interesting to see what Sasuke may present with the Mangekyou Sharingan and whether Madara will reveal more info to him on the effects of the Sharingan and whats best to keep from losing his sight. However, Madara no doubt did take Itachi's eyes and is probably keeping them safe until Sasuke feels he is ready for them so Madara can race to his true plans of using Sasuke to capture the eight tails because in his current state i doubt he will be able to defeat him but with Itachi's eyes and an unlimited power with the Mangekyou Sharingan. A little more training and even he will defeat the eight tails.

 

[Arisonius]

Thats a good theory perhaps Itachi could not see with his normal eyes and needed the Sharingan to see at all times. Now that you mention, the only moment I have seen Itachi without his sharingan would be in the flashbacks and after he used Amaterasu to escape the toads stomach when in the air his sharingan had failed him and he needed to rest. I think that it will be interesting to see what Sasuke may present with the Mangekyou Sharingan and whether Madara will reveal more info to him on the effects of the Sharingan and whats best to keep from losing his sight. However, Madara no doubt did take Itachi's eyes and is probably keeping them safe until Sasuke feels he is ready for them so Madara can race to his true plans of using Sasuke to capture the eight tails because in his current state i doubt he will be able to defeat him but with Itachi's eyes and an unlimited power with the Mangekyou Sharingan. A little more training and even he will defeat the eight tails.

That's if he doesn't already have them. Anyway, its been fun 169th Itachi and all you others, but I need some sleep. Keep posting, I will respond when I get the chance.