[Predictions] Naruto Manga 436 Predictions / 435 Discussion

[Roclee]

If I'm not wrong about this but isn't Sasuke and his team recovering from the 8tails fight? So, I don't expect them to come yet.

The Manga is, however, going into a fast paste because pretty much all of the tailed beasts are captured. Only two left. We'll expect more fights to come shortly after this fight.

 

[Sly Anbu]

I completely agree with you about the jutsu situation. we still havent seen anything about the jutsu naruto was working on with boss frog's sons in the episodes. I want to see a combination jutsu with one of the frogs (preferably with bunta's water bullet technique). I want to see :naruto: learn some wind techniques (even basic wind techs would be awesome in sage mode). Since :sasuke: learned to mold elemental chakra into weapons and the full body chidori, theoretically naruto can learn to do similar techs with wind. Like I said in another post, I want to see naruto have a tech like jman's hair needles he used in sage mode against pein, or a full body wind jutsu like neji's chakra thing that can repel attacks... but since its wind, naruto could mold the wind into blades or needles to do damage if necessary. I also REALLY want to see naruto with a sweet ass weapon. everyone with immense skill carries a weapon. Any thoughts?

I agree completely. He needs a Wind style: wind wall similar to Itachi/Kakashi's water wall and the 3rd's Earth wall and such.
He needs some more ranged techniques. A couple Wind style "air blast" or wind style "dust cloud" type techniques could help him for obvious reasons.
And the annoying thing is, he has the ability to learn so many techniques in like one day. Like someone once said, Let Naruto make 50 clones, go to the library, STUDY some jutsus and handseals, go train, and BAM!! He's the jutsu professor like Kakashi or the 3rd.
I mean, don't get me wrong. Naruto is pretty damn strong. He knows Kagebunshin, which was a forbidden jutsu to begin with, Rasengan which was created by the 4th and can knock out/kill someone with one hit, Wind style: Rasenshuriken which can annihilate anyone/anything or like 20 ninja clustered together, Summoning jutsu which only a few strong shinobi know how to do, Sage Mode which makes him quicker, so strong he can break swords and throw 5 story summons, and gives him more Chakra.
The problem here is repetition. He is strong enough to take on almost anyone one on one, but can be even stronger with some diversity/variety. If rasengan didn't work on someone, what would Naruto do? Lols!

 

[Roclee]

I agree completely. He needs a Wind style: wind wall similar to Itachi/Kakashi's water wall and the 3rd's Earth wall and such.
He needs some more ranged techniques. A couple Wind style "air blast" or wind style "dust cloud" type techniques could help him for obvious reasons.
And the annoying thing is, he has the ability to learn so many techniques in like one day. Like someone once said, Let Naruto make 50 clones, go to the library, STUDY some jutsus and handseals, go train, and BAM!! He's the jutsu professor like Kakashi or the 3rd.
I mean, don't get me wrong. Naruto is pretty damn strong. He knows Kagebunshin, which was a forbidden jutsu to begin with, Rasengan which was created by the 4th and can knock out/kill someone with one hit, Wind style: Rasenshuriken which can annihilate anyone/anything or like 20 ninja clustered together, Summoning jutsu which only a few strong shinobi know how to do, Sage Mode which makes him quicker, so strong he can break swords and throw 5 story summons, and gives him more Chakra.
The problem here is repetition. He is strong enough to take on almost anyone one on one, but can be even stronger with some diversity/variety. If rasengan didn't work on someone, what would Naruto do? Lols!

The question here is, could Naruto do anything if Sauske uses his black flame on him. The black flame is a teleportation type. Not even Madara could see it coming. It is instantaneous.

 

[Arisonius]

I agree completely. He needs a Wind style: wind wall similar to Itachi/Kakashi's water wall and the 3rd's Earth wall and such.
He needs some more ranged techniques. A couple Wind style "air blast" or wind style "dust cloud" type techniques could help him for obvious reasons.
And the annoying thing is, he has the ability to learn so many techniques in like one day. Like someone once said, Let Naruto make 50 clones, go to the library, STUDY some jutsus and handseals, go train, and BAM!! He's the jutsu professor like Kakashi or the 3rd.
I mean, don't get me wrong. Naruto is pretty damn strong. He knows Kagebunshin, which was a forbidden jutsu to begin with, Rasengan which was created by the 4th and can knock out/kill someone with one hit, Wind style: Rasenshuriken which can annihilate anyone/anything or like 20 ninja clustered together, Summoning jutsu which only a few strong shinobi know how to do, Sage Mode which makes him quicker, so strong he can break swords and throw 5 story summons, and gives him more Chakra.
The problem here is repetition. He is strong enough to take on almost anyone one on one, but can be even stronger with some diversity/variety. If rasengan didn't work on someone, what would Naruto do? Lols!

I preict the next jutsu Naruto learns is going to be:
Fuuton: Oodoma RasenShuriken

OR

Fuuton: 1000 Years Of Death: 1000 Mini-RasenShurikens! ( I just added 1000 year sof death of Kakashi sake. )

 

[Roclee]

I preict the next jutsu Naruto learns is going to be:
Fuuton: Oodoma RasenShuriken

OR

Fuuton: 1000 Years Of Death: 1000 Mini-RasenShurikens! ( I just added 1000 year sof death of Kakashi sake. )

Sasuke is able to throw flames in many ways. Either in a long line, a giant fire ball or in many little fire balls. But I think Naruto can only make one resengan in each hand and not like a dozen we see in Sasuke's fireballs.

 

[Sasuke Uzumaki]

I think Pein left to capture Kyuubi either just after, or at the same time, Sauske left to capture the eight tails. Anyone have more info on the timeline?

Timeline info:


Sasuke says he is going to Konoha, manga 416

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Pain left as Sasuke went for the 8-tails, and after Sasuke comes back with killerbee Akatsuki are waiting for Pain to come back:

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At the same time Madara says this, Saskue kills the information lizzard:

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At about that time Pain arrives in Konoha, Naruto masters sage mode, and his eyes have the red eyelines. Manga 418

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So we need to remember: Pain is fighting since manga 419, but this has not taken days, it may have taken from 30 minutos to a few hours, including Naruto?s arrival and fighting.

We can assume that killerbee?s village was nearer from the Akatsuki hideout than Konoha, as Sasuke was able to come back when Pain was arriving in Konoha.

Naruto's training took place since a while after Sasuke joined the Akatsuki. I say "a while" as immediately after Sasuke killed Itachi, Naruto was able to learn about it and went back to Konoha after that.

Raikage's team left for Konoha shortly after Pain began attacking the village. manga 419.

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And I was wrong about something: Zetsu was there in the ceremony to release the 8-tails.

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Well, it's not clear if Sasuke had already left. The reason why I think so is that, in case he had been at the Akatsuki hideout, he would have taken part in the ceremony.

 

[Itachi169]

I preict the next jutsu Naruto learns is going to be:
Fuuton: Oodoma RasenShuriken

OR

Fuuton: 1000 Years Of Death: 1000 Mini-RasenShurikens! ( I just added 1000 year sof death of Kakashi sake. )

Actually that 1000 mini-rasen shurikens can be a move for Rasen Schuriken is a dense chakra that can possibly be broken down into miniture multiple versions. Just imagine if he used it in his Kyuubi form it would be much more powerful

 

[Arisonius]

Okay, after rereading Naruto 417 I have a few points I'd like to bring up for discussion, sorry if these have already been discussed, I joind Narutobase after 417:

1. In 417 Sauske Uchiha is ased by Suigetsu if he thinks he will get the eight tails power. This leads me to believe that Akatsuki plans on splitting the Bijuus powers up amongst its members.

2. In 417 Sauske Uchiha says that it doesn't matter. He has a "new" power that can destroy Konoha. Is he talking about Amaterasu? I don't think so because its a power he's already used, but its possible because in that chapter, or actually just previously, he learns he can control Ameterasu.

3. I think I have to point this out: Sauske Uchiha is stronger than Killerbee. The ONLY reason Killerbee escaped is because the eight tails gave up a tail.

4. Will the eight tails regain his tail, or is Killerbee gimped now?

5. I find it interesting that Sauske and Madara both couldn't telgl the difference between a real killerbee and the tail clone. I thought Sharingan could see through clones? Is it just because it was a Tailed Beast Clone? If so, this could be interesting if the tailed beasts can create clones that can fool even Dojutsu.

- Madara says that they have to wait fr Pein, but later on we see them sealing the Killrbee Clone.

1. Who summoned the statue? Madara? Wouldn't his give him away?!

2. Why do they have to wait for Pein? Was he just reffering to waiting for Pein to bring back Kyuubi?

 

[dredblack7]

Okay, after rereading Naruto 417 I have a few points I'd like to bring up for discussion, sorry if these have already been discussed, I joind Narutobase after 417:

1. In 417 Sauske Uchiha is ased by Suigetsu if he thinks he will get the eight tails power. This leads me to believe that Akatsuki plans on splitting the Bijuus powers up amongst its members.

2. In 417 Sauske Uchiha says that it doesn't matter. He has a "new" power that can destroy Konoha. Is he talking about Amaterasu? I don't think so because its a power he's already used, but its possible because in that chapter, or actually just previously, he learns he can control Ameterasu.

3. I think I have to point this out: Sauske Uchiha is stronger than Killerbee. The ONLY reason Killerbee escaped is because the eight tails gave up a tail.

4. Will the eight tails regain his tail, or is Killerbee gimped now?

5. I find it interesting that Sauske and Madara both couldn't telgl the difference between a real killerbee and the tail clone. I thought Sharingan could see through clones? Is it just because it was a Tailed Beast Clone? If so, this could be interesting if the tailed beasts can create clones that can fool even Dojutsu.

- Madara says that they have to wait fr Pein, but later on we see them sealing the Killrbee Clone.

1. Who summoned the statue? Madara? Wouldn't his give him away?!

2. Why do they have to wait for Pein? Was he just reffering to waiting for Pein to bring back Kyuubi?

Arsonius, once again great job with the thorough analysis.

But, in all honesty, Sasuke is not stronger than the Eight Tails or the Eight Tails' Jinchuuriki: Killer Bee.

Sasuke was lucky to unleash Amaterasu on the Eight Tails after being "killed" and "recovered" nearly three times. Killer Bee was caught off-guard with the Amaterasu, and quickly created a clone with the chakra of the 8-tailed beast.

 

[Arisonius]

...Like someone once said, Let Naruto make 50 clones, go to the library, STUDY some jutsus and handseals, go train, and BAM!! He's the jutsu professor like Kakashi or the 3rd. ...

By the way, this theory was writte by me. I also said that Naruto hasn't had the time to do that kind of training, andnow, Konoha Library is a crator.

 

[tender]

Hi community!

1-) I think that God realm will perish and he will not get his hands in kyuubi now, but he will do somehow in the future.

2-) I guess Tsunade will die bring Naruto back to life, like the old hag from Suna did to Gaara

3-) I don't think Kakashi is dead, but I do want to know what really happened to Rin and what his fatter has to tell him (when they will turn Kakashi Gaiden in an anime????)

4-) I guess that we will have now some history about pain, they will find the truth about him, but will not be able to take immediate action and Naruto will receive the key that Jiraya (and his father) left for him. Also, he will learn about his parents.

5-) Shikamaru will get this information about Naruto past and about pain and will realize something amazing, like, Madara is alive and how to stop him.

6-) Some things that have been left behind:
a-) The power that Itachi left to Naruto
b-) What else Itachi left to Sasuke?
c-) The key Jiraya left to Naruto and why Minato created it?
d-) Kabuto?
e-) What the hell is the other fucking Akatsuki that eat bodies and has two personalities?
f-) Pain is said to want piece to the world by creating an amazing weapon. We know that the other Akatsuki follows then by their own particular reasons, but wtf does Madara really wants? Revenge against Konoha? What kind of revenge?
g-) Where's team Guy?
h-) Where's Yamato?
i-) How about the child of the prophecy?
j-) What happened with Naruto's mother?
k-) What about the Raikage?
l-) We have heard about Orochimaru's parents, about Tsunade's lineage but nothing about Jiraya's past.
m-) How about Kisame?


Well, I guess that's it for now!

 

[Roclee]

Hey, Naruto learn the Multi-Shadow Clone from the forbidden scroll, right? So, couldn't he learn more things from that scroll?

 

[dredblack7]

I don't know about you all, but personally I am getting sick and tired of this fight. There is no real plot twist when you come to think about it, its just always a 1 sided fight: 1st part Naruto, 2nd part Pein: next part who knows? who cares at this point?

In my opinion, Kishimoto really needs to spice things up a bit in the Manga, the predictions and "fake" spoilers are getting too close to reality for comfort, meaning now his Manga is PREDICTABLE....which in the end will make it less entertaining.

God I hated saying that, but I had to get it off my chest. I <3 Naruto Manga, but its beginning to lose its fervor...something surprising and unexpected needs to happen. please? porfavor? sil-vous-plait? per piacere?

 

[Arisonius]

Arsonius, once again great job with the thorough analysis.

But, in all honesty, Sasuke is not stronger than the Eight Tails or the Eight Tails' Jinchuuriki: Killer Bee.

Sasuke was lucky to unleash Amaterasu on the Eight Tails after being "killed" and "recovered" nearly three times. Killer Bee was caught off-guard with the Amaterasu, and quickly created a clone with the chakra of the 8-tailed beast.

Thanks for the compliment, but Im not sure I agree on two points.

I think Sauske was well aware of Karin and Shugos (the cursed sealg guy) ability to heal. So with that in mind I don't think he went into battle with guns blazing. I think he turned up the heat a little at a time in order to test himself, and to prepare himself for the fight against Naruto.

I also don't think Killer Bee created the Tail Clone. I think the Eight Tails created the Tail Clone in order to save Killer Bee. Its jus the way it SEEMS to me. There is a difference. It could mean that the Bijuu are capable of doing jutsu without their Jinkuuri doing the handseals.

We don't know how or why Killer Bee has Eight Tails, and if they are together without Eight Tails beng SEALED into Killer Bee, that could provide some light on the friendship they seem to have. That's pure speculation though. But any interesting line of thought none the less.

 

[dredblack7]

Hey, Naruto learn the Multi-Shadow Clone from the forbidden scroll, right? So, couldn't he learn more things from that scroll?

By this point i think its gone along with the rest of Konoha...but idk, might be hidden in a bunker somewhere by the late 3rd, but personally I wouldn't count on this scroll making a second cameo.

 

[dredblack7]

Thanks for the compliment, but Im not sure I agree on two points.

I think Sauske was well aware of Karin and Shugos (the cursed sealg guy) ability to heal. So with that in mind I don't think he went into battle with guns blazing. I think he turned up the heat a little at a time in order to test himself, and to prepare himself for the fight against Naruto.
I also don't think Killer Bee created the Tail Clone. I think the Eight Tails created the Tail Clone in order to save Killer Bee. Its jus the way it SEEMS to me. There is a difference. It could mean that the Bijuu are capable of doing jutsu without their Jinkuuri doing the handseals.

We don't know how or why Killer Bee has Eight Tails, and if they are together without Eight Tails beng SEALED into Killer Bee, that could provide some light on the friendship they seem to have. That's pure speculation though. But any interesting line of thought none the less.

Beautifully said my friend, I was thinking the exact same thing there, but Sasuke severely underestimated Killer-Bee's natural skill and the unleashing of the full 8 tails (he only dealt with a maximum of 2 tails before with Naruto, he was basing his judgement on that estimate).

On another note, Kishimoto has a way of keeping some things to himself, even when they become obvious to the community, he will not affirm it until the end.

 

[OmegaVegeta2000]

loved the chapter and just like most of the peeps here i think the next one it gonna be pein storytelling. but i don't mind the killin of so many good chacters. i noticed that most ninja from the previous generation are killed and this gen wont be any differnt their not invencable. pretty much means that naruto's gen needs to step there game up since there the future of the village. aslo show there some true bad asses out there to and that anyone can go at any time.......well not anyone since there are some peeps that wont be killed off PERIOD. it's diffenrt since you dont see it happen to oftensince the good guys always win

 

[Arisonius]

Prety sure Kishi said he wants to show Kakashi Gaiden in the Shippuden Series. Its possible the campfire scene in the maga will turn into Kakashi Gaiden in the anime.

6-) Some things that have been left behind:
a-) The power that Itachi left to Naruto
Most likely he gave Naruto something to counter Amaterasu or te Sharingan itself.
b-) What else Itachi left to Sasuke?
Itachi gifted Amaterasu to Sauske. Madara said so himself. And in a way, he gave Sauske Megekenyo Sharigan. I think these are it.
c-) The key Jiraya left to Naruto and why Minato created it?
The key unlocks the other half of Kyuubis chakra. Minato left it behind so Naruto could access all of Kyuubis power, one day, when he was ready.
d-) Kabuto?
Kabuto is currently being devoured by Oorchimarsamas chakra and will soon be "taken over" by him. We won't see him until this arc is over.
e-) What the hell is the other fucking Akatsuki that eat bodies and has two personalities?
Tone down the cursing. His name is Zetsu and I believe his "body eating" is just theory. If anyone can prove/disprove, go for it. We don't know much else about him other than that he is probrbly Akatsuki's resident spy.
f-) Pain is said to want piece to the world by creating an amazing weapon. We know that the other Akatsuki follows then by their own particular reasons, but wtf does Madara really wants? Revenge against Konoha? What kind of revenge?
The other members are in it for glory and eternal life. Madara is supposedly in it for revenge against Konoha, but I think there is more too it.
g-) Where's team Guy?
Team Guy wazsh off on a mission at the time of the attack. They aremaing their way back to Konoha.
h-) Where's Yamato?
Yamtotaicho and Sai-chan are MIA. No one knows
i-) How about the child of the prophecy?
Some people are staring to think its Narto, others think its Pein, and still others think its both. Take your pick, I doubt you'll be wrong in the end.
j-) What happened with Naruto's mother?
As far as I know she died during child birth. Not much is said of hr, but I she hadn't died why would Naruto be called an 'orphan.' Its safe to assume shes dead.
k-) What about the Raikage?
He's called for a meeting of the Kages. We will probarbly see him next at this meeting.
l-) We have heard about Orochimaru's parents, about Tsunade's lineage but nothing about Jiraya's past.
When did we learn of Oorochimarus parents? The only thing we know about Tsunandes lineae I that she is the grand daughter of the first Hokage and the neice of the Second Hokage. Other than that, little is known about her past besides her brother, Dan, and her self-imposed exile from Konoha. She was obviously prominent during the Ninja Wars because Chiyo knew and dispised her.
m-) How about Kisame?
Kisame was busy sealing the Killer Bee Clone. We haven't seen him since.


And all that from memory.

 

[Arisonius]

Oh, by the way, on the subject of Kisame, he needs a new partner I think one of two things will happen:

Madara will become Kisames parter to keep an eye on him. No pun intended. But seriously, Kisame knows what Itachi knew, and Madara knows that Kisame knows what Itachi knew, so he's going to need to watch him.

OR

Sauske will become Kisames partner.

You might ask why ONLY Sauske and Madara? Two reaons:
1. It was said before that people are paired according t their abilities, so that they compliment eachother. That means that Kisame is best suited for a Sharingan or Genjutsu user, although WHY is unclear.
2. Sauske is Itachis brother, so Kisame might want to look after him for Itachi. Or, as stated above, Madara wants to keep Kisame under careful watch.

 

[dredblack7]

I may be going off onto a tangent here, but imo, Kisame is being set up to betray the Akatsuki.

My reasons:

1-Itachi's partner...enough said.
2-Immense Chakra pool
3 and most important- Kishi almost blew his possible plans for Kisame in an interview. lol