Obitos Paresnts

[jspencer43]

Obito's Parents

So this is a bit of a theory, but hear me out.

So the timelines between the Hokage can't be that great. If we look here the first Hokage's wife was the first nine tails host.

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So Kakashi would have been about 21 when the Uchiha clan was destroyed, that would have made Obito around the same age.

Both of Kakashi's parents died around the time of the second ninja war, so we could also assume that both Kakashi and Obito would have been born around the start or just before the second ninja war.

The second ninja war was before the Uchiha clan massacre.

If we take all of this into consideration we can assume that Obito's parents would have been ninja from the same generation as the first and second Hokage.

Why don't we know anything about Obito's parents? It’s become quite clear in chapter 600 Obito still has a pretty big part in the anime.

Now this is where I start getting iffy about Obito's MO.

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That's a pretty bold statement, where Naruto said he would rather stay stupid his whole life when confronted with the same idea of ninja. Obito said he wanted to crush the idea.

This next frame here can be taken two ways.

1) He wasn't ready to die
2) This was all planned and he wasn't ready to leave the leaf village.

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It can be taken either way, but I'll use it as option 2 for the moment.

When you can't see someone’s face the only way you can gather an idea of someone’s identity are sensing their chakra signals. Time and time again people have confused Tobi for Madara, even Karuma confused the chakra signals. Who have similar chakra signals? ..... family.

Both Obito and Madara have massive fire Justus, Where Sauske also an Uchiha uses a large Lightning Jutsu instead of fire.

Both Obito and Madara look very similar, are both very gifted Uchiha and have the same goal in mind.

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I believe that Madara is Obito’s father and the whole thing was planned from the beginning. Madara had no allies left, why not have his own son to continue his vengeance?

 

[Ciberr]

When making such a long thread, your grammatical error in your title tells me most of the content in the post isn't worth reading or will be the same as the title, wrong. And spelled in correctly .

EDIT: That is the thought process that goes through most people's heads.

On topic. I like the effort. But i just don't see it.

 

[jspencer43]

I wear reading glassed and posted this on my phone, apologies for the incorrect spelling.

 

[Ciberr]

Haha its cool i know the feel. You don't have to apologize to me. Who am i to get an apology from you xd? I was just pointing out what people might think .

 

[Rot]

When making such a long thread, your grammatical error in your title tells me most of the content in the post isn't worth reading or will be the same as the title, wrong. And spelled in correctly .

EDIT: That is the thought process that goes through most people's heads.

On topic. I like the effort. But i just don't see it.

Amazing, that is it ? This is all you could contribute ? Well then rule one; Do not start a sentence with but. Rule two I is always capital when alone.

OT: Maybe it is possible but we really don't know a whole lot and the timeline is slightly inconsistent or simply author errors, Tobi who battled Minato should not of been Obito, but he had short hair like Obito along with the same eye power and he didn't seem to know much about Minato other then "Yellow Flash" where as Obito should of known a little bit of what Minato could do considering he was his student.

The "Madara" Itachi met prior to the massacre had long hair, like Madara but I don't see someone with prowess like Itachi mixing chakra signals up, surely he had seen Obito's face otherwise how would he have put that automatic Amat in Sasuke's eye when it sees Tobi's Sharingan ?

 

[Ciberr]

Amazing, that is it ? This is all you could contribute ? Well then rule one; Do not start a sentence with but. Rule two I is always capital when alone.

OT: Maybe it is possible but we really don't know a whole lot and the timeline is slightly inconsistent or simply author errors, Tobi who battled Minato should not of been Obito, but he had short hair like Obito along with the same eye power and he didn't seem to know much about Minato other then "Yellow Flash" where as Obito should of known a little bit of what Minato could do considering he was his student.

The "Madara" Itachi met prior to the massacre had long hair, like Madara but I don't see someone with prowess like Itachi mixing chakra signals up, surely he had seen Obito's face otherwise how would he have put that automatic Amat in Sasuke's eye when it sees Tobi's Sharingan ?

xd like I said in my edit that's the thought process that goes in most people's head when a thread like this pops up. I didn't have that thought process.

I'll give you that though, almost owned me if I meant my own words. Also, i think you can use But to start a sentence. I use it in my APUSH class and it's fine..

 

[jspencer43]

Amazing, that is it ? This is all you could contribute ? Well then rule one; Do not start a sentence with but. Rule two I is always capital when alone.

OT: Maybe it is possible but we really don't know a whole lot and the timeline is slightly inconsistent or simply author errors, Tobi who battled Minato should not of been Obito, but he had short hair like Obito along with the same eye power and he didn't seem to know much about Minato other then "Yellow Flash" where as Obito should of known a little bit of what Minato could do considering he was his student.

The "Madara" Itachi met prior to the massacre had long hair, like Madara but I don't see someone with prowess like Itachi mixing chakra signals up, surely he had seen Obito's face otherwise how would he have put that automatic Amat in Sasuke's eye when it sees Tobi's Sharingan ?

Yeah I agree on the time skips, but if Itachi actually did know who Tobi was, don't you think he may have been more helpful. Unless he also made the same mistake.

Obito could have been infused with harish DNA by the point he came back to fight Minato which would explain the sudden boost to his power. Obito attacked ahead of schedule, underestimated his old Sensi's powers and lost. Went back into the shadows to try again later once he had better control over his power.

 

[HiddenWarrior]

I highly doubt it.

Just can't wait for Kishi to reveal Tobi's connection to Madara (or Izuna).

 

[Remy03]

I believe there is a generation between them if they are indeed family. Think about it like this... Obito, Kakashi & Asuma are all from the same generation. Asuma's father, Sandaime, was part of the generation after the Shodai, Nidaime & Madara. Therefore, Uchiha Kagami would be more likely to be his father timeline wise. Unless of course Madara was pimpin on the regular till the day he died.

 

[phats1231]

a theory thread turning into a grammatical battle.....totally subscribing to it xd

 

[phats1231]

btw come on guys....if obito was madara's son or sth....wouldn't somebody like the HOKAGE or the elders know about it? like "hey, maybe i forgot to mention, the great madara had a son..." or like when obito was late on awakening his sharingan.."you are a disgrace to your father's legacy...being madara's son and not awakening even the sharingan till that age"

 

[Ciberr]

a theory thread turning into a grammatical battle.....totally subscribing to it xd

xd it won't go on any longer. I almost got owned though.

 

[-Blade-]

This isn't a bad theory... Actually Tobi and Madara could be father and son I really wouldn't put it past Kishi

 

[jspencer43]

btw come on guys....if obito was madara's son or sth....wouldn't somebody like the HOKAGE or the elders know about it? like "hey, maybe i forgot to mention, the great madara had a son..." or like when obito was late on awakening his sharingan.."you are a disgrace to your father's legacy...being madara's son and not awakening even the sharingan till that age"

Unless it's when he left the village, not going to lie .. none of the elders saw any of this happening.

They are of the same generation, but the first hokage was alive the same time as Minato. This was apparent when Kushina was being comforted by the first hokage's wife while she was still the tailed host. The first's wife was alive to the Madara/Harish battle, this still allows for the timeline to work. Minato knew of Kushina from when she first entered the leaf. So you can assume that the white fang is a little older the Minato. So Obito being Madara's kid does fit into the time line.

 

[Prime Rib]

here is where your theory actually gets F up

If we take all of this into consideration we can assume that Obito's parents would have been ninja from the same generation as the first and second Hokage.

This right here^ obito parents are not from the first and 2nd hokage generation? why cause madara fought the first hokage 80 years ago? your telling me obito parents are that old?

 

[jspencer43]

where is that stated?, Kushina was alive as a child when Madara and Harish fought.

 

[moongem]

The only problem I see with this is that I'm assuming that it's Obito's bloodline that get's the Kamui in their Mangekyo Sharingan. It's been shown that Madara has a Susannoo, which means he has to have the powers of Amaterasu in one eye and Tsukuyomi in the other. Which would mean that they are not from the same branch of the clan.

This, however, could be wrong. Perhaps Madara had Kamui and whatever it's pair is and when he took Izuna's eyes he gained Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu.

Although, I've always got the vibe that Sasuke is, like, the second Madara. I always thought this because they have the same hair, albeit, Madara's is much longer and what Kurama said about Sasuke in the beginning of part two. If I had to take a guess I'd figure that Obito's relation to Madara is one of uncle and nephew. Meaning that Obito is Izuna's son. This would also mean that Madara may have Kamui. Like I said earlier, if gaining the EMS bestows the powers of both users Mangekyo Sharingan then it's perfectly obvious to assume that Madara would have Kamui now.

 

[Eternal Phoenix]

When making such a long thread, your grammatical error in your title tells me most of the content in the post isn't worth reading or will be the same as the title, wrong. And spelled in correctly .

EDIT: That is the thought process that goes through most people's heads.

On topic. I like the effort. But i just don't see it.

Hah, don't be a grammar nazi if you can't spell things correctly or use good grammar yourself, hypocrite.

 

[SashaUchiha]

btw come on guys....if obito was madara's son or sth....wouldn't somebody like the HOKAGE or the elders know about it? like "hey, maybe i forgot to mention, the great madara had a son..." or like when obito was late on awakening his sharingan.."you are a disgrace to your father's legacy...being madara's son and not awakening even the sharingan till that age"

I think Obito got a lot of that...

OT: I like to believe Madara is directly related to Sasuke and not Obito. And Obito being related to Izuna is a higher possibilty.

 

[MrDVz]

I like your theory I think the same. What if Obito didn't knew who was his father? Maybe it was a secret in Konoha as Naruto's true identity.......because Madara was so dangerous they hid it from him. He wasn't that strong when he was young but look at him now.......just like Naruto, he sucked at first, now he's awesome.