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[Theory] Obito wasnt the one in the Konoha Attack

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Hi guys, since i'm quite a disliker of Obito being tobi and stuff, i'm trying to explain myself how can some things happen, like the obito owning minato in the konoha attack 16 years ago. And i remembered something...

Kyubi (Kurama) can sense, somehow, the chakra of the Uchiha that use him with their sharingan, like we can see in this page:

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He knows it's an uchiha chakra the moment sasuke comes in naruto's mind, saying that only ("not at all like i once saw") one more time he has been in chakra contact.

We know that it was Uchiha Madara the one who attacked Konoha like 75/80 years ago, when Hashirama was hokage, using the kyubi, and we have seen Kuybi hating Madara for his speech calling (madara to kurama) brainless beast, just before controling him for the (i guess) first time

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(Madara using the kuybi in the fight with the hokage)
I cant find the other link, the speech from madara to kyubi

So lets get to the main point: Many of you have said that it was plausible for obito to control the kyubi and still fight at Minato's level just 1/2 years after being "dead", but, if that was the case...

Wouldn't have Kurama told to Naruto that he has sensed one more Uchiha chakra controlling him?
Wouldn't have Kurama known if the one controlling him wasn't Madara?

What do you think?

PS: I know about the S/T jutsu, but im developoing a theory about parent-related abilities in uchiha (parents sharingan skills = children sharingan skills) so obito would be some kind of grand-son of Madara.
 
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Forza said:
Hi guys, since i'm quite a disliker of Obito being tobi and stuff, i'm trying to explain myself how can some things happen, like the obito owning minato in the konoha attack 16 years ago. And i remembered something...

Kyubi (Kurama) can sense, somehow, the chakra of the Uchiha that use him with their sharingan, like we can see in this page:

You must be registered for see links


He knows it's an uchiha chakra the moment sasuke comes in naruto's mind, saying that only ("not at all like i once saw") one more time he has been in chakra contact.

We know that it was Uchiha Madara the one who attacked Konoha like 75/80 years ago, when Hashirama was hokage, using the kyubi, and we have seen Kuybi hating Madara for his speech calling (madara to kurama) brainless beast, just before controling him for the (i guess) first time

You must be registered for see links
(Madara using the kuybi in the fight with the hokage)
I cant find the other link, the speech from madara to kyubi

So lets get to the main point: Many of you have said that it was plausible for obito to control the kyubi and still fight at Minato's level just 1/2 years after being "dead", but, if that was the case...

Wouldn't have Kurama told to Naruto that he has sensed one more Uchiha chakra controlling him?
Wouldn't have Kurama known if the one controlling him wasn't Madara?

What do you think?

PS: I know about the S/T jutsu, but im developoing a theory about parent-related abilities in uchiha (parents sharingan skills = children sharingan skills) so obito would be some kind of grand-son of Madara.
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Obito really didn't even fight on Minato's level, he just spammed his S-T Jutsu until Minato figured out a weakness and hit him.
 
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lol this again, why do ppl bother making excuses to their failed attempt of discrediting the theory of obito being tobi for a long long time. Plot holes? lol i don't see plot holes. If you see plot holes, it's probably because you are hard headed or stubborn and there is nothing that can be done to that.


There is an important word that exists and that's "acceptance"
 
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BUT why does Tobi 16 years ago have the same ocular powers as now? It would have been more plausible to say that obit was not tobi all the time because we dont see tobi use his ocular powers prior to the the second historical kyuubi attack. However, the way the manga is going, we must conclude that Obito must have been tobi, even during second kyuubi attack.
 
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actually the masked man was obito but since he was completely brainwashed by madara then he looked more mature and heartless like when he tried to kill naruto without any hesitation.
 
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Simple Math said:
his main goal was to summon kyuubi and destroy konoha - he didnt care about the fight
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Minato is the type of fighter that won't let the fight drag on because what happens if the fight drags on? Well, your opponent will have more time to study you and most importantly will have time to get strong powers.

Normally when a fight starts, you don't get to see their full potential at the start but more towards the end.
The fight against tobi/obito wasn't that long. It was probably less than 5 minutes. This isn't enough time for a person to demonstrate his full potential. Which is why minato is so dangerous. His jutsu (FGT) allows him to end the fight quickly without letting his opponent get to his full potential.
 
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Are you saying it couldn't be Obito because Kurama thought it was Madara? Well we've already seen that Madara isn't Tobi, for certain, so it's completely irrelevant that Kurama mistakenly thought it was Madara. It wasn't. So it may as well have been Obito.
 
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