[Predictions] Naruto Manga 435 Predictions / 434 Discussion

[Kendara Uchiha]

omg naruto's chakura is gone...where's sasuke now its time for him to come

 

[Japhrimu]

Astute observation J-Man, but you're forgetting one crucial piece of evidence. Yamato cannot control the Kyuubi, he can only surpress its chakra. He can onl do this because he has the first's Kekkai Genkai. How the ability to create wood is related to the ability to surpress the chakra of the Kyuubi is beyond my reasoning. However, that aside, Tsunandehime has not shown herself to posses the first's Kekkai Genkai.

I think that Yamato has a weakened version of the Kekkai Genkai. Like a tape recording of a tape recoring, or a clone creating a clone, its just not as good as the original.

Let me also poner this a moment. Was it only the Kyuubi's chakra the first was able to surpress, or was it all of the bijuu? It would make far more sense to me if it was able to surpress the Bijuu, but if not, then why could he only surpress Kyuubi?

Another possibilty is that Kyuubi knows something about sage mode that we don't. Perhaps there is a risk to prolonged sage mode, or even the Ma/Pa Sage mode, and this may be the reason we never saw Jiraya use it until his fight with Pein. During his fight with Oorochimaru it would have been an excellent time to bust out Ma and Pa, but he chose not to, why?

Of course the simple answer to all this is that Kishi simply hadn't thought up sage mode yet when the Sennin fight occurred. We never even hearof Sage Mode until Jirayas fight with Pein.


That is all, for now.
How troublesome.

Shika-shika Fake ID! Here's a couple of thoughts on what you said:
*I don't actually think Tsunade has ANY control over Biijus, basically cause around when Yamato is introduced, a couple of people state that he was the ONLY one with any influence over them.
*Yeah, I think the first had some power over all of the Biijus because if he didn't, how could Konoha have all of them to give out to other villages/countries?
*I see where you get the idea that creating wood is a 'nature' thing, so maybe it's related to power over kyuubi, especially since the 4-tails Naruto was bound for a moment by wood, but something tells me the two talents aren't really connected. I don't know why, but that's what I think.
*I think Kishi knew all along about sage mode, at least since Jiraiya's intro, because he calls himself the Toad Sage. He might not have had all of the details worked out, but from what I can tell, Kishi had/has a good idea of the whole story. For instance, from the very beginning, you see the young three with the old three's summonings in the opening artwork.
*I doubt the first was a sage, only because he hasn't been referred to as one at all. I would think that'd be pretty big news.
*I figure Jiraiya didn't use sage mode against Oro due to the fact he couldn't control his chakra very well due to the roofie Tsunade slipped him.

 

[Arisonius]

Shika-shika Fake ID! Here's a couple of thoughts on what you said:
*I don't actually think Tsunade has ANY control over Biijus, basically cause around when Yamato is introduced, a couple of people state that he was the ONLY one with any influence over them.
*Yeah, I think the first had some power over all of the Biijus because if he didn't, how could Konoha have all of them to give out to other villages/countries?
*I see where you get the idea that creating wood is a 'nature' thing, so maybe it's related to power over kyuubi, especially since the 4-tails Naruto was bound for a moment by wood, but something tells me the two talents aren't really connected. I don't know why, but that's what I think.
*I think Kishi knew all along about sage mode, at least since Jiraiya's intro, because he calls himself the Toad Sage. He might not have had all of the details worked out, but from what I can tell, Kishi had/has a good idea of the whole story. For instance, from the very beginning, you see the young three with the old three's summonings in the opening artwork.
*I doubt the first was a sage, only because he hasn't been referred to as one at all. I would think that'd be pretty big news.
*I figure Jiraiya didn't use sage mode against Oro due to the fact he couldn't control his chakra very well due to the roofie Tsunade slipped him.

Im sorry to say friend, but I've been reading u and my theories are all but confirmed. Here's what I've learned.
The first COULD controll ALL the Bijuu.
Yamato CANNOT control Bijuu, only surpress then, presumably because he's a fake.
This leads me to conclude that Kyuubi is keeping Naruto weak for his own purposes.
Tsunande doesn't have the firsts Kekkai Genkai because we wouldve seen it by now.

However, EXCELLENT point with the rufee. It wouldve been far too risky for Jiraya to use sage mode there because he was already off balance. I commend you.

 

[Arisonius]

By the way, the Rinnegan can sense chakra. This is evidenced by Konohamaru VS Hungry Ghost. Konohamaru attacks from behind but Hungry Ghost Realm knows about the attack beforehand, even though its in his blind spot.

This makes the "Pop Goes The Weisel" theory were Naruto erupts from the ground or a hole exremely unlikely.

 

[Shiro Kiba]

Well I have to say that I am hooked and cant wait until next week. As for why kishi is showing all the others in the villages is quite simple. The frogs told naruto from the very start, that he either had to sit extremely still before the battle and have 5 minutes, fuse together - which they cant do because of the demon fox, or have alot of friends and allies to buy you the time to sit still and gather chakra. So I feel that they are setting up for naruto to run out of nature chakra, and while his friends rely on him to save them, he in turn has to rely on them to give him time to gather the chakra to go into sage mode. I do think though that at least one of the rookie nine will be hurt at the end of this.

 

[Japhrimu]

By the way, the Rinnegan can sense chakra. This is evidenced by Konohamaru VS Hungry Ghost. Konohamaru attacks from behind but Hungry Ghost Realm knows about the attack beforehand, even though its in his blind spot.

This makes the "Pop Goes The Weisel" theory were Naruto erupts from the ground or a hole exremely unlikely.

I thought Konohamaru HIT hungry ghost with the rasengan. Even if he did know it was coming, doesn't the rasengan make noise? I'm not doubting Pain can sense chakra. With the way two of him pulls chakra out of people, I guess I would think he could. But I'm pretty sure I've seen more than a couple of people who can sense chakra. No examples right now, but I can get some if need-be.

 

[Japhrimu]

Well I have to say that I am hooked and cant wait until next week. As for why kishi is showing all the others in the villages is quite simple. The frogs told naruto from the very start, that he either had to sit extremely still before the battle and have 5 minutes, fuse together - which they cant do because of the demon fox, or have alot of friends and allies to buy you the time to sit still and gather chakra. So I feel that they are setting up for naruto to run out of nature chakra, and while his friends rely on him to save them, he in turn has to rely on them to give him time to gather the chakra to go into sage mode. I do think though that at least one of the rookie nine will be hurt at the end of this.

That's an excellent point about what the frogs said to Naruto about having a bunch of other people. If any of the rookie nine gets hurt, I hope it'd be Ino, although she's a looker, Ten Ten, or Chouji. Nothing against the fatso, but I just don't like him that much. On a side note, I bet I could eat almost as much as him. I wanna see Shino in action. Not that I really see it happening, but do you think anybody's gonna betray the leaf village anytime soon? It's happened a few times throughout the series, just not lately. I could see Shino harboring a grudge for something or another. He's kind of like an outsider to start. This is all just rambling.

 

[Avani]

Naruto is not going to get captured. That would make all those surpassing the fourth, Jiaraya and all that sage mode training go to drain. FRS was already a partial failure, if this new technique is proved useless in real battle it would be really silly.

So Naruto is gonna come back. He will get help from frogs. He may get some from some other shinobi's though I doubt that.

Pain is going to be out of commission. Nagato will have to come out in the open sooner or later. Real Naruto needs to face real Nagato. "Real one is not here".

Gara is not going to come at all. The manga is called Naruto not Gara. Gara is a side character who enters the scene to further Naruto's tale or show his strength. Not to rescue him. Besides he is not equipped to fight with Akasuki. They already killed him once.

We better wait and watch. Naruto is always full of surprises. He thinks quickly in a battle. Kiba, Neji to Kakuzu, everybody learnt that hard way.

And Honestly Deva pain is just too arrogant and needs to eat humble pie.

If Naruto gets captured at all, (and that's a big IF) It will be probably a clone , which would get poof the minute it learns the whereabouts of Nagato.


And I am not sure about kyubi. Pain won't kill Naruto for he needs him alive till they have taken Kyubi out. Kyubi will be free from its jail so he may not be averse to the idea. It will only object if it doesn't want to get caught by Madara instead.

About Sasuke helping Naruto out- I don't think Sasuke will lift a fingure at the moment. It will be good if he does that but it is highly unlikely.

 

[rivalintraining]

what makes u all so sure that the naruto that pain has is the real one there is more than one on the battlefield ya know

 

[rivalintraining]

thank u about time someone said the old sasuke is gone he'll even kill naruto to the complete and utter distruction of the leaf meaning naruto to and pain has pretty much done that already (cant wait to see the anime of that)

 

[Avani]

what makes u all so sure that the naruto that pain has is the real one there is more than one on the battlefield ya know

What made you think that we all are sure about that? No part of my post said that. a lot of people are questining if it is real Naruto. He may or may not be real.

 

[rivalintraining]

hey one things for certain the frogs helping naruto play a big part naruto the real naruto could just as well been one that was summoned or the other that isnt

 

[Roclee]

Can Pain sense chakra? When Naruto made the smoke bomb none of the Pain knew where Naruto was coming from. One came from the sky and one transformed into a Rasenshuriken but Pain didn't sense any of them. So, this means Naruto hiding inside a hole in the ground plausible.

 

[Itachi Uchiha The Legend]

I think the naruto that pain has is the real one becasue it will be really dumb if he just goes poof...and the fight starts all over again and another manga is wasted. This time he has the REAL Naruto!

 

[kyubikiran]

I think the naruto that pain has is the real one becasue it will be really dumb if he just goes poof...and the fight starts all over again and another manga is wasted. This time he has the REAL Naruto!

i think ur wright, but naruto definetly has some plan before he got captured, he got something up his sleeve.

 

[Killerbee1250]

thank u about time someone said the old sasuke is gone he'll even kill naruto to the complete and utter distruction of the leaf meaning naruto to and pain has pretty much done that already (cant wait to see the anime of that)

I think that by the time Sasuke gets to Konoha it'll already be rebuilt. I don't know about the rest of you, but the way I see it, Konoha can be rebuilt pretty much overnight with the help of Yamato. I remember during one of their missions with Yamato that he built that mansion using his wood element. Now, whether or not that took a lot out of him to make is another story. But I don't remember him being exhausted from using it at all.

 

[Pepsilover]

I thought Konohamaru HIT hungry ghost with the rasengan. Even if he did know it was coming, doesn't the rasengan make noise? I'm not doubting Pain can sense chakra. With the way two of him pulls chakra out of people, I guess I would think he could. But I'm pretty sure I've seen more than a couple of people who can sense chakra. No examples right now, but I can get some if need-be.

U are right that konohamaru did hit, but konahamaru hit hell relam not hungry ghost... And i don't think Pain can sense chakra, because he could not doge Naruto's attack when he did smoke bomb... rinnigean has shared vision.

I think only one beside Naruto who can sense chakara is Karin who is with Saskue...

 

[Pepsilover]

Can Pain sense chakra? When Naruto made the smoke bomb none of the Pain knew where Naruto was coming from. One came from the sky and one transformed into a Rasenshuriken but Pain didn't sense any of them. So, this means Naruto hiding inside a hole in the ground plausible.

Ups... sorry i did not see u had already said the same think

 

[Pepsilover]

By the way, the Rinnegan can sense chakra. This is evidenced by Konohamaru VS Hungry Ghost. Konohamaru attacks from behind but Hungry Ghost Realm knows about the attack beforehand, even though its in his blind spot.

This makes the "Pop Goes The Weisel" theory were Naruto erupts from the ground or a hole exremely unlikely.

U are not so great in analyzing... sry

 

[sandshark]

omg naruto's chakura is gone...where's sasuke now its time for him to come

1-Naruto isn't finished yet. The manga would be boring if Naruto just pwned Pein the entire time, it has to go back and forth a little bit.
2-Sasuke isn't going to show up. The whole point of this fight is to show how Naruto has grown. Sasuke interfering would make that point null.