It is avoidable though. But it's all up to Kakashi's aim & timing. Hiruzen is quick, even in old age, and combining high level A-Rank Jutsu just makes him a force to be reckoned with. That combination Fire Release: Fire dragon bombs & Earth Release: Earth dragon bomb would also one shot Kakashi. Unlike Orochimaru, Kakashi's body doesn't have heavy modification.
Why do people think the 3rd>kakashi?(Read)
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6pathofpain
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Honestly i think he'd be just like kakashi with out sharingan. A whole lot of jutsu, impressive ninjutsu skills, and all around fighter.
But The 3rds weak link is that kakashi's ninjutsu style counters the 3rds in every turn, water beats fire and lightning beats earth. and sharingan give him the upper hand in taijutsu, kakashi has the upper hand
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6pathofpain
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And unlike oro, kakashi has sharingan and water and lighting style to counter both the 3rds chakra natures, kakashi has the upper hand in ninjutsu
Kakashi hasn't shown to use any of those in combination though...
He can't counter a combined element technique, he hasn't shown aptitude for it. So advantage for Ninjutsu still belongs to the 3rd Hokage....
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your acting like kakashi has no jutsu all he has to do is hide a clone underground put hiruzen in water pirson then kamui him while he's traped
6pathofpain
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Thats like saying cause we havent seen madara use amaterasu he doesnt have it, dont make me laugh with that lame logic. Kakashi wins ninjutsu.
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he has one of the fastest hand seals in the show your telling me he can't use a water jutsu then after that use a lightning jutsu :sy:
The Necromancer
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If he could, he would have against kakuzu instead of running away from his combo attacks which almost killed him might i add.
Since speculation is being used here, Monkey King Enma becomes Kakashi's ultimate downfall, I doubt he'd be able to predict the movements of Emna since he can manifest his body through his diamond staff form. He would predict the initial movement but can he take on Enma's body parts grabbing and attacking after the intial swing?
The Monkey King also becomes Hiruzen's ultimate defense as well being invincible to all forms of attack aside from Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi. Close-Mid Range advantage would go to Hiruzen as well, in terms of attack and defense with minimal chakra consumption, unlike Kakashi who would have to immediately use the Sharingan against him.
The Monkey King also becomes Hiruzen's ultimate defense as well being invincible to all forms of attack aside from Orochimaru's Sword of Kusanagi. Close-Mid Range advantage would go to Hiruzen as well, in terms of attack and defense with minimal chakra consumption, unlike Kakashi who would have to immediately use the Sharingan against him.
6pathofpain
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You just dont wanna admit im right smh
O really? then tell me why itachi didnt just put kabuto in genjutsu while they were talking before the fight? He's done it countless times to people, are you saying he couldnt? Its call plot nigga :sy:
Chances of them fighting near water? ... :shrug:
Depending on their battlefield, more than not they would stay near dry land, well Hiruzen at least.
Only extremely OP Shinobi was able to use water style techniques by only using the moisture in the air, as the ANBU were astonished to see the 2nd Hokage use water style Ninjutsu outside of water.
The Necromancer
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So plot decided kakashi couldn't do combination attacks. Your point is not proven.
kakashi isboss
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screw him kakashi would kamui him to and they would die in some other demension together but kakashi does have his own summioning and the entire point of kakuzi was for naruto to use his new jutsu
6pathofpain
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If you wanna talk like that kakashi could just Kamui enma, he did it to a naruto bm clone moving quit fast and as tobi said himself his timing was perfect and his aim is good.
Forget the plot. He's done it countless times but so what? What does that matter? Kabuto would be able to immediately break himself out either way. And avoid it... Itachi's plans were already set in stone, as he had to lead the battle into his direction to use Izanami along with Sasuke's help.
Feats > Speculation. Still..
6pathofpain
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No plot made him almost get killed,
Why hasnt naruto used like 50 clones in his current fight, he could
Why didnt itachi just put kabuto in genjutsu before the fight, he could have
Why hasnt tobi try to warp away kakashi or Guy, it would make sense
its the way thing were writen is my point smh