Kishi forgot about chakra and Stamina?

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I know its the end of the series but naruto was a great show due to people having limits. Now the show is actually turning into Dragonball Z more than being a ninja show. Just saying SOMEONE should have died in this fight by now and its killing me.

As for someone saying chakra controll allows user to use techniques with less effort. For kakashi kamui thats not the case since the only way to use less chakra with the MS is to have uchiha stamina and blood line. Sasuke could barely use his MS that much yet kakashi can use kamui 10+ times?
 

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Kishi has also forgotten to given NARUTO A F*** to the fact that tobi aka obito the man he is fighting against is responsible for the death of his parents and the reason why his dad had to seal the 9 tails inside of him..Naruto keeps saying it doesn't matter to kakashi but he hasn't thought about it himself...Idiotic
Naruto has defeated "hatred" remember? He doesn't fight with rage anymore, or he wouldn't have mastered Kurama.

Also, you DO increase your ability to use techniques based on use. Sasuke used to have max 2 Chidori. Also, perhaps there is something to getting more stamina recovery as you get stronger? Also, maybe they ate one of those awesome "Ninja food pills" from the beginning of the manga that no one ever brought up again. ;x
 
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Naruto has defeated "hatred" remember? He doesn't fight with rage anymore, or he wouldn't have mastered Kurama.

Also, you DO increase your ability to use techniques based on use. Sasuke used to have max 2 Chidori. Also, perhaps there is something to getting more stamina recovery as you get stronger? Also, maybe they ate one of those awesome "Ninja food pills" from the beginning of the manga that no one ever brought up again. ;x
Understandable but like i said before... Kakashi should not be able to use MS as much as he has used it. It just doesn't make sense how strong kakashi has become with his kamui. I guess it's plot no jutsu but you can simply go from "One of the lowest stamina/chakra" having characters in the series to a MS Kamui spamming ninja.

Also lets get real.... Gai and Kakashi vs 4 tailed beast and there still alive.. Unbelievable
 

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Understandable but like i said before... Kakashi should not be able to use MS as much as he has used it. It just doesn't make sense how strong kakashi has become with his kamui. I guess it's plot no jutsu but you can simply go from "One of the lowest stamina/chakra" having characters in the series to a MS Kamui spamming ninja.

Also lets get real.... Gai and Kakashi vs 4 tailed beast and there still alive.. Unbelievable
Geez... I can't believe you people. As I see it, the only thing Kakashi improved with is chakra consumption.
In terms of actual skills, including Kamui prowess etc, it's the same, maybe just a little better.

He already managed to kamui TWO susanoo arrows in a blink of an eye, right? He also WASN'T exhausted after that, like some people seem to think, he was just slower for a moment.

Now for the tailed beast part... I don't know what's so unbelievable about that. Kakashi is easily kage level and Gai in raw power matches Kakashi.

When one says something and people disagree with him, they say manga doesn't show it. When manga starts to show it MORE (because it already was), they complain that the author is stupid/careless/troll whatever.
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Geez... I can't believe you people. As I see it, the only thing Kakashi improved with is chakra consumption.
In terms of actual skills, including Kamui prowess etc, it's the same, maybe just a little better.

He already managed to kamui TWO susanoo arrows in a blink of an eye, right? He also WASN'T exhausted after that, like some people seem to think, he was just slower for a moment.

Now for the tailed beast part... I don't know what's so unbelievable about that. Kakashi is easily kage level and Gai in raw power matches Kakashi.

When one says something and people disagree with him, they say manga doesn't show it. When manga starts to show it MORE (because it already was), they complain that the author is stupid/careless/troll whatever.
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+rep for awesome sig. kakashi just word owned him.
 

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@Takos

I agree with you in terms of kakashi being on kage level but seriously... Guy and Kakashi vs 4 tailed beast. Too much plot no jutsu. I guess at this point ten-ten and rock lee could fight 1 or 2 tailed beast.

I still think the series is good but to build up so much anticipation for the final to have it end like a Dragon Ball Z episode is meh....... Oh well guess ill sit back and wait :)
 

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@Takos

I agree with you in terms of kakashi being on kage level but seriously... Guy and Kakashi vs 4 tailed beast. Too much plot no jutsu. I guess at this point ten-ten and rock lee could fight 1 or 2 tailed beast.

I still think the series is good but to build up so much anticipation for the final to have it end like a Dragon Ball Z episode is meh....... Oh well guess ill sit back and wait :)
Not all the tailed beasts are ultra strong. Kurama and the eight tails handled the rest of them, and Naruto sort-of defeated the one tails when he was still a turd genin. Kisame handled the 8 tails more or less, and Might Guy smashed Kisame.

And I really don't think Kakashi has "one of the lowest chakra in the series". All he stated was that he has way less chakra than Naruto, who as we know has basically bottomless chakra. He only runs out when everything else is defeated. No one spams exhausting clones like he does.
 

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Its just the fact that when Kishi bounces around from battle to battle. But yeah I agree that Kakashi should be done as far as already have taken out the Seven Swordsmen, using kamui, and the constant use of the sharingan without his MS.
 
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