Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[sn0wy]

Re: My theory tobi.

yes i am back

i am back to say the cursed mark just like sasuke made obito turn evil. The rage of the cursed mark made sasuke lose control because of his hatred for his brother for killing his family and losing his brother/family. The cursed mark did the same thing to obito to make him tobi, he lost rin, the cursed seal took over him.



I'm going to say that the cursed mark is even older then that and maybe madara is the one who invented it. This is where sasuke is going right now, they are coming to this battlefield in naruto 600.


basically this is my theory of prediction that will come!!!!

 

[roguesan]

Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

I just came up with a theory of my own. Here's some significant hints/connections between the two characters:


1). Obito was not the one who fought Minato, it was clearly Madara.

2). The first time Kisame met the "man in the shadows" it was Madara, no wonder he freaked out.

3). The second time Kisame met him, it was Obito instead, claiming that he himself is Madara, that's why Kisame was like "oh, so it's you Mizukage or should I say Madara"

4). Obito may have been an apprentice of Madara, thus taking his secret identity as well as his Moon-eye plan.

5). Madara may have promised Obito to bring back Rin if he helps him. (perhaps that's why Obito did not feel like killing Kakashi after seeing him, after all, he's the one who let Rin die, isn't he!?)

I may have had other ideas that I wanted to share, but forgotten them. Please note I did not copy this from anywhere, and also, this is not 100% accurate in any way, it just made some sense to me and that's why I'm sharing it, feel free to discuss the post itself or anything related. Thx.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

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This thread shows you failed BIG TIME about number 1

2) You failed so hard again all the mask men have had the same voice

3) Fail

4&5) Somewhat plausible

Welcome to Base BTW xd

4&5 were decent theories

 

[sn0wy]

Re: Rin is not the real reason!!

i think she kinda is but not the entire reason. I think obito had a cursed seal placed on him and what anger he had went looney toons because of it.

 

[Shinobi Jones]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

If it was madara fighting Minato how did he use S/T jutsu ?

 

[Zato]

Re: Misconception about Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan.

@Zato madara said he died after he awakened the rinnegan and he knows obito, but Nagato had the rinnegan in the second great war. So how can he have madara's eyes?

He has Madara's eyes because it has been stated that the Rinnegan can only come from the Sharigan. Nagato is a Uzumaki. I highly doubt if even he was half Uchiha that he would be able to carry both traits from both clans. This is why Kabuto reacted a lot different to Madara's Rinnegan powers then Nagato's. It makes zero sense that Madara would have only seen Nagato as a kid then turns around and know Obito as well. Unless Obito can somehow bend time.

It's not a stupid assumption it's the most logical one. We've got Madara having ems and senju dna before unlocking rinnengan, you? Having ems is most likely not enough to get to rinnengan. The sage split his power into two eyes and body the elders sons eyes do not look like rinnengan and are most likely the purest form of ems. So combining those two would unlock the sages power, rinnengan.

Its not the most logical one. SO6P had 2 sets of powers. The eyes and the Body. One son got the eyes and the other got the body. What sense would it make that you would need the body to gain the eyes? One inherited that specific source of power. I highly doubt you need Senju DNA to gain the Rinnegan. If that was the case the Obito's sharigan would have turned into the Rinnegan since he carries Hashirama's powers as well. ALSO Tobi planned for Sasuke to gain the Rinnegan BUT he wanted Sasuke to take Itachi's eyes and increase his powers.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

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This thread shows you failed BIG TIME about number 1

2) You failed so hard again all the mask men have had the same voice

3) Fail

4&5) Somewhat plausible

The heck is wrong with you? give him a chance, it's his first post and your like Fail this and Fail that.

OT: Welcome to Narutobase.

 

[BossNaruto]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

It was Obito .. deal with it !

 

[Perkele311]

Re: Rin is not the real reason!!

Maybe you will understand if you lost the girl you really cared for. The world could become a different place to you. It may not be worth living to him similar to how Miraii Nikki manga. I am guessing that after she died and he found out it was all over for him Madara used his pain to his advantage which is what has happened to almost every villian in the series.

 

[HiddenWarrior]

According to the timeline, Madara & Obito never met.

Why are the "Obito Theorist" avoiding to adress this fact?

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Re: Rin is not the real reason!!

He could have did it over the death of Madara, if Madara is his Father or Grandfather that could also cause him more hate and the will to carry out Madara's original plans

 

[repulse]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

Number 5 would explain it all really. That, or living under the Moon's Eye Plan would allow Obito to see Rin again, being a genjutsu and all.

 

[UzumakiAzuilmarxG]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

i think that tobi was intoduced to madara when orochimaru was an akatsuki, tobi was taught by Madara while oro was with the akatsuki and learned many things about the sharingan (including the rinnegan)
tobi was given the rinnegan by Madara.
tobi was furious when oro left akatsuki because he obviously took madara with him.
Madara is one crazy motherphucker!

and outta the blue: i have a hunch that oro or kabuto have edo-jirayja....why my hunch: if kabuto had madara then he surely must've asked for help in recovering pervy sage's body from where he died.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

The heck is wrong with you? give him a chance, it's his first post and your like Fail this and Fail that.

OT: Welcome to Narutobase.

Funny I wasn't given a chance in my first thread on base, it was about Obito being tobi.. People were so hard on me and I didn't f*cking fail I was right.

Also I didn't realise he was a new member, I don't normally look at who's posting I just read what their saying and treat everybody equal.

 

[10023213]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

fail fail fail fail fail

 

[modthis]

Re: Misconception about Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan.

Yahiko died at an age of 25-30 (which has been stated) in the third war.

So by this assumption Nagato was 25-30 at least before the start of the manga (12 years ago we know this because that's how old Naruto is when it starts and Minato became Hokage because of his work in the third war.)

This would make Nagato at least 37-42 when Naruto was 12. Making Nagato 40-45 when he died.

If Obito is about the same age as Kakashi (30 in this arc) then he COULD NOT have given Nagato the Rinnegan as he WAS NOT BORN YET.

 

[D3A]

Re: The Tobi effect

the first part in your post contradicts the second....

He things by ruling the world he can create true peace. Madara sees the whole ruling the world as, just that, ruling the world

 

[HiddenWarrior]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

Madara was dead before Tobi attacked the leaf

 

[rollin]

Re: Madara(Tobi)/Obito(Tobi) connection

kisame might have met madara before tobi
tobi said kisame was closest to "him"

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[rai shado]

Re: Misconception about Tobi giving Nagato the Rinnegan.

It's not a stupid assumption it's the most logical one. We've got Madara having ems and senju dna before unlocking rinnengan, you? Having ems is most likely not enough to get to rinnengan. The sage split his power into two eyes and body the elders sons eyes do not look like rinnengan and are most likely the purest form of ems. So combining those two would unlock the sages power, rinnengan.

Madara didn't have the senju DNA before unlocking the Rinnengan. If you recall having Hashirama's powers was completely new to him after he was brought back as an edo. Also, like the guy ahead of me said, if you need senju DNA to unlock the Rinnegan then why doesn't Obito have the Rinnegan unlocked in both eyes. Why did Obito need to take Nagato's Rinnegan just to have it. I mean, if you need senju DNA why didn't he just unlock it like Madara did, who btw we can now assume was Obito's mentor.

Also, we know jack diddly shit about the older son, for all we know he could have unlocked the complete Rinnegan.