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well his ambition had to come before his hate, so though rin might have fuelled his plan, she was not the cause of it. Madara wasThe war was started because of his ambition. His ambition was fuelled by his hate. His hate started because of Rin's Death.
She is not the cause of the war, just the start of the man known as "Tobi".
yeah it was cheesysecond the above analysis.
either way, not the best of reasons, not the best of writing. startin an annihilation war against all mankind because the death of a girl he had a crush on... come on....
completely agree U_Usecond the above analysis.
either way, not the best of reasons, not the best of writing. startin an annihilation war against all mankind because the death of a girl he had a crush on... come on....
Yes, it`s weird and there is most likely alot more to come. Madara influencing him, him being mad at everyone and everything, him wanting a numb peaceful world. The war he started was for peace. His mind is just twisted. You saw how he acted back then when he was with Deidara. I think he is just crazy.where did you see all of that? o__o
what i saw was a guy citing his grade school puppy love-crush as a reason for getting angry, then disappointed and eventually giving up hope, which means that of course he has feelings for her and that's disturbing.... dude, to be honest even if both Rin and Obito were adults and he still had feelings for someone who died like 15 years ago, that's still weird. i am not saying not being sad, but not allowing sth like this to become your motivation for doing or not doing certain things, like starting annihilation wars.
If I read correctly Kakashi asked how did he survive after all that time. Then Obito said its because you let Rin die. Maybe I am misreading though.
you both maybe right. I took it as kakashi asking "if your alive how come you didnt show yourself until now."He meant that he survived because he didn't completly trust kakashi with him protecting rin
i sadly got to agree with this^ cause seriously their ninjas their meant to survive near death experiences and make amazing combacks for entertainment plus it was obito who was facing the fourth using kamui so they were on even ground since it was a teleport based battle the fourth just outsmarted him i honestly dont see why people insist on making stupid excuses for why it cant be obito when it is obito.You guys are so dumb to be still in denial after an entire week...
agreed. He didn't even address Rin in an emotional way. Honestly, people enjoy bitching instead of waiting for the full story to unfold.you both maybe right. I took it as kakashi asking "if your alive how come you didnt show yourself until now."
And then Obito "because you let rin die." showing that either he is mocking kakashi or that he truely didnt show he was alive because rin had died. Either way, my in my OP i was only trying to show that i dont believe Rin is the reason he turned evil.
this is trueagreed. He didn't even address Rin in an emotional way. Honestly, people enjoy bitching instead of waiting for the full story to unfold.
Good job smartass!! I like how the dickheads not beeing patient eleminating Obito's theory... hahaMadara : "Do you know our plan?"
Kabuto : "..unsure if fake Madara (Tobi) will act as planned"
Madara died shortly before giving his eyes to Nagato
Nagato was about 35-40 years old when he died, so Madara must have died atleast 30 years before current events. Not Obito, nor Shisui was alive at that moment.
There, you happy? Or do you idiots need Tobi to take of his mask to finaly prove something? Have you no common sense at all?
You also good job...dude ive made at least 2 thread about this we already know it isnt obito
and who manipulated Madara?
Good Point Casual , I want to know more about obito now.It was obvious... I'm neither annoyed or super excited. It was just the first step in him becoming evil.