Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[akimofnevis]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

tobi is Obito accept it like you accept every other disappointments

 

[B00m]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

He was so cool back then, now he's all crazy and corrupt. Interesting character regardless.

 

[dlorrah]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

dude zetsu knew hu he was and read it properly zetsu himself tells everyone to let him in
n he acted like that bcoz no1 in akatsuki except kisame and zetsu knew hu realy is tobi and he is the main leader........tobi acted like a fool to deceive others

itachi knows it..but kizame i dont think so...because when tobi reviled his self to kizame ,,kizame was shack that tobi madara?? wait...why kizame know tobi was madara?? but now tobi was obito?? i dont understand...realy...does kizame knows obito?? pls i need an explanation...

 

[Simple Math]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

hmm i think he knew

 

[alexu9696]

Re: What would you do if Next chapter reveals Tobi is not Obito ?

The narrative said his name is Obito. When Orochimaru controls a body I still call him Orochimaru because its his consciousness in a body. However, the panel just showed Obito's face without any response from 'Obito' himself. I will only be able to tell if its Obito's consciousness when he addresses it himself. There are several reasons to believe its not Obitos consciousness, this being one:

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Note, that he said he obtained the eye (not sharingan) at Kannabi bridge.

very true also rember tobi said his a shell of formes self

 

[Knights Saotome]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Well that 1 week some people could get the feeling of "being right" at this forum, will never come back to them again, pity their lifes

lol you still think its izuna? face it, tobi=obito, were not going anywhere, anytime soon.

 

[JuvenileSin]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Well that 1 week some people could get the feeling of "being right" at this forum, will never come back to them again, pity their lifes

lol +rep

 

[Knights Saotome]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

If he changed just ONE person's age in the manga, it'd adversely AFFECT EVERYONE'S ages and times of accomplishment, Kishimoto ALWAYS stayed consistent with his databooks until recently.

Changing Obito's age, while the entire audience knows that Kakashi is the same age would adversely affect Naruto's age, & that'd affect the time Kurama attacked the village and in turn distort the time of every major event in the Narutoverse.

Kishimoto wouldn't ignore such a fact, and don't just say it's just fiction, even fiction follows through with a set timeline of events.

And I apologize for my rudeness, dude.

lol thats why theres gonna be a new databook, and changing kakashi's age would do nothing, because like i said, he could just say he was pushed though the academy.

 

[psukkar]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

okay then,


then tell me how old was obito? he was clearly in the same class as kahashi.

how old was he.


kahashi is 28-29 now by the way from data books.


so with abit logic if u start subracting 16 u reach a age of 12 - 13

so does one need eveidence that 1+1 = 2? or do we need proof still. lets get real ppl.

if u dont see issues with tobi being obito based on the current infomation we have then ur ignorant sorry to say. and thats fact

one would assume madara was the one that attack konoha but would mean he has the time space jutsu too. But at least this is a theory that tries to explain whats going. Unlike all these obito fanboys just saying "yea its him i knew it and its great" when really its bad as of the moment due to the lack of decent fessiblity from kishi currently.

 

[Armathyx]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

2 more days until the "I told you" threads are unleashed guys!

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

itachi knows it..but kizame i dont think so...because when tobi reviled his self to kizame ,,kizame was shack that tobi madara?? wait...why kizame know tobi was madara?? but now tobi was obito?? i dont understand...realy...does kizame knows obito?? pls i need an explanation...

i don't know why kisame was shocked :shrug:, but kisame doesn't know madara's face anyway coz madara died along time ago.

 

[JuvenileSin]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

2 more days until the "I told you" threads are unleashed guys!

lol or it could just switch to Sauske or even just focus on Kages next chapter =P

 

[UchihaMadara007]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

itachi knows it..but kizame i dont think so...because when tobi reviled his self to kizame ,,kizame was shack that tobi madara?? wait...why kizame know tobi was madara?? but now tobi was obito?? i dont understand...realy...does kizame knows obito?? pls i need an explanation...

Madara, Izuna both looks same....maybe Kisame Confused, i think?

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[JoeSkids32]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

As the title says,I think that Tobi can't be Obito,because there are too many plot holes.

First of all,Tobi was controlling the mizukage,when Obito wasn't even born or was very little.(You might say that the one controlling the mizukage was Madara,which may be true).

Let's say that Obito was saved by Zetsu and trained by Madara,that still doesn't explain how he got so powerful,knew everything and learned about Kurama and how to control it.And if I remember corectly,he said when he was taking out Kurama from Kushina that he waited a long time for this.How is this possible when he was like 14?And his voice changed so much after just a year.A year before he was a little kid that could be beaten by Rin,and after a year he went toe-to-toe with Minato,the fourth hokage.

So,in my opinion,someone uses Obito's body and controlles it.What are your thoughts?

Maybe Tobi is Obito... Except he might a Obito from the parallel universe in movie 6 because everyone is soooo different...
But your theory makes sense too.
Good thinking.

 

[dlorrah]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

i don't know why kisame was shocked :shrug:, but kisame doesn't know madara's face anyway coz madara died along time ago.

he knows it..when kisame killed his superior(one of the 7 swordsman)tobi showed up along with 4th mizukage..tobi show his face to kizame..right? if you recall that..

p.s
madara had a statue..with 1st hokage..face to face

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Re: Tobi and Zetsu and on the why not...

he knows it..when kisame killed his superior(one of the 7 swordsman)tobi showed up along with 4th mizukage..tobi show his face to kizame..right? if you recall that..

p.s
madara had a statue..with 1st hokage..face to face

you know what, you are right , then now i seriously don't know whats going on with tobi xd

 

[dirk667]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Question/theory to add to the mystery surrounding Tobi. Oro has proven that you can remake a person if you have their chakra. Zetsu can absorb chakra, eat people, control land. Whats to say obito did die, Zetsu recovered his eye/ chakra, and then some one, madara danzou Oro, remade him from Zetsu DNA. Still allow him to use eye as full uchiha and if he knew as much as zetsu (being made from him, add in some 1st hokage dna explains his right arm being regrown) he might be led to believe he is madra reincarnated even tho he is basically a remake? Sound like a viable theory?

 

[blackbird31468]

Re: What would you do if Next chapter reveals Tobi is not Obito ?

I think it would only make sense that Kishi would do something like that, after all, Kishi has pretty much been giving us many clues that he is Obito and when Tobi's face was about to be revealed, kishi had had to pull out all the stops to, without a doubt, make us believe that Tobi is Obito, only to troll us the next chapter. And so far he's fooled 90% of NB members.

 

[Kage Bumchin]

Which tobi theory is the worst you have heared??

With all these izuna and being a reincarnation/clone I was sitting back giving it the trololol and was thinking we had the future sasuke ramen guy heck even yamoto theories for tobi but what's the worse you've heared so far

 

[lol99]

Re: Which tobi theory is the worst you have heared??

tobi is yondaime hokage