Itachi lied about Jiraiya taking him to his limit.

[UchihaElder]

Itachi, is currently. Whether they're dead or alive the strongest.

One he lied when he compared his strength to Jiraiyas.

Why!? He honestly didn't want to take Naruto. If he did Naruto would of been long gone. We all know this. His whole approach was shady. It was exactly what tobi said, he was only there to remind Danzo to not touch sasuke. If you pay attention to how he's talking to Jiraiya you can see how much information about akatsuki he's actually giving him.

Itachi easily could of killed Jiraiya, next up Nagato.

Nagato is a hard one to judge. Regardless of his Rinnegan abilities he's actually fairly weak. His combination of abilities promote a long range fighter but yet he fights hand to hand. Based on pure Ninja intellect Itachi wins this battle. Also we all know Nagato is prone to Genjutsu.

Obito knew itachi was stronger, the one thing that kept him alive was Itachi's belief that he in fact was Madara Uchiha. Obito is weak and has proven to me it is in fact Obito his mistakes, reliance on that one Jutsu and Ninja tools is more then enought proof. He reserves too much chakra and I honestly think Obito knew he couldn't even begin to fight Itachi. I honestly believe that if Itachi was allowed to live an uninterrupted life in Konoha, he would of been the 5th easily. Everything this man did had purpose. He told sasuke how to obtain the Mangekyo then the Eternal all by acting out a role masking the true intent of his words. He wanted sasuke to know the truth, thats why he kept asking him how much can you see, but sasuke is retarded.

Kakashi, why did I just waste time writing this....

Madara Uchiha(No Hashirama DNA OR Edo) age 30 versus Itachi Uchiha age 30

From what we know Madara is showy he likes flash, bang boom. HE"S DEAD...
here's why, only one person is on par with Itachi's genjutsu effects and thats Naruto's tricks. Turning clones into rubble to finish the last pain, digging tooth and nail to finish Neji in the Chuunin exams. Not to mention how HAM (HARD AZZA M_____R) he's going now. I just dont see any person running up on Itachi getting very far. Regular Madara against his age Itachi is getting flatlined. You dont think so tell me why? EMS? bullshit, Tie at best for Madara, if he makes it past the first genjutsu with his powerful chakra he wont get past amaterasu instantly after while he stumbles from never being hit by such a powerful genjutsu.

I'm just going to make a list of all Characters that flatline to Itachi's Genjutsu

Minato, Itachi's current age (S difficulty) same age (Like goku asking Krillin to block Kamehameha for him)

Hiruzen (Old, Dead in 5mins) (Young, Owns Itachi and the Whole Ninja world 1on1)

Hashirama (Dead, Tsukuyomi)

Tobirama (Dead, Tsukuyomi)

Sasuke (Real Intent Dead, .01secs)

Naruto (Dead, naruto couldn't fight one on one and not make a mistake and thats all it takes with Itachi.)Genjutsu won't work, but Itachi's shuriken will. Plus we dont know if he could control the fox. He had no intention.

Killer Bee (Itachi's toughest fight, like I said with Intent I think he could control the beast) You say how can they control it inside its Jinchuuriki? I say, ask Sasuke. He already did it.

And I'm done.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Itachi feared his reputation, nothing more. Itachi feared no one.

 

[lol99]

Wall of text.

I shall not read

 

[Bogard]

Nope, he would have loose. That's why he decided to flee away when he was captured :|

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Lol Nagato and Tobi with Gedo Mazo would lose to Itachi? and im a frikin flying penguin

He probably could beat Jiraya and i do think he was lying but Itachi vs Rinnegan spammers would lose sorry

 

[Unorthodox]

Nope, he would have loose. That's why he decided to flee away when he was captured :|

jiraiya wasit dodging or blocking amaterasu in that small halllway

and if itachi beat oro with ease why would he be scared of jiraiya

 

[UchihaElder]

Lol Nagato and Tobi with Gedo Mazo would lose to Itachi? and im a frikin flying penguin

He probably could beat Jiraya and i do think he was lying but Itachi vs Rinnegan spammers would lose sorry

just not true genjutsu beats Nagato for sure. He shows he has nothing for it. Not only does Itachi deliver his deathblow but Nagato shows no ability to break genjutsu minus letting that body die and rez it but only problem is he cant do that alone. Nagato owned 2mins max.

 

[Trollsage]

Jiraiya isn't weak... I love itachi, he's one of my favorite characters but I'm pretty sure if they were to fight Jiraiya would win. He would just pull through somehow

 

[OnPoint]

Is this a joke? Some of the people you have Itachi down for beating are just...

 

[khaydz5]

doesnt really matter if that's a lie or not.

fact is they withdrew on jiraiya's presence and was exhausted after using 1 amaterasu and 1 tsukuyomi.

and itachi is not the strongest. he's not even in the level of hashirama and madara. he's chakra reserve is poor which is a big issue since part 1.

 

[uncle sam]

Wait what? Looking at the title I thought this was a itachi> Jiriyah thread but it turned out to be a ridiculously opinionated comparison. if tsukoyomi could one shot the first hokage madara really wouldn't have struggled with him.

 

[Trollsage]

Also those many experienced people should know how to dispel genjutsu, they're not going to stand there and take it. I'm sorry but nagato would beat itachi, minato would beat itachi, itachi might beat old hiruzen but definitely not prime, killer bee could beat him, I think itachi could beat naruto however by outsmarting him but he is the number one most unpredictable ninja.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

?? Jiraiya did well against 6pop considering he didn't have no info he did great. I am very sure jiraiya would push itachi to his limits don't underestimate jiraiya

 

[Unbiased]

Wait what? Looking at the title I thought this was a itachi> Jiriyah thread but it turned out to be a ridiculously opinionated comparison. if tsukoyomi could one shot the first hokage madara really wouldn't have struggled with him.

Manga says they're equal.

Manga>you

 

[SilverSlick]

Itachi, is currently. Whether they're dead or alive the strongest.

One he lied when he compared his strength to Jiraiyas.

Why!? He honestly didn't want to take Naruto. If he did Naruto would of been long gone. We all know this. His whole approach was shady. It was exactly what tobi said, he was only there to remind Danzo to not touch sasuke. If you pay attention to how he's talking to Jiraiya you can see how much information about akatsuki he's actually giving him.

Itachi easily could of killed Jiraiya, next up Nagato.

Nagato is a hard one to judge. Regardless of his Rinnegan abilities he's actually fairly weak. His combination of abilities promote a long range fighter but yet he fights hand to hand. Based on pure Ninja intellect Itachi wins this battle. Also we all know Nagato is prone to Genjutsu.

Obito knew itachi was stronger, the one thing that kept him alive was Itachi's belief that he in fact was Madara Uchiha. Obito is weak and has proven to me it is in fact Obito his mistakes, reliance on that one Jutsu and Ninja tools is more then enought proof. He reserves too much chakra and I honestly think Obito knew he couldn't even begin to fight Itachi. I honestly believe that if Itachi was allowed to live an uninterrupted life in Konoha, he would of been the 5th easily. Everything this man did had purpose. He told sasuke how to obtain the Mangekyo then the Eternal all by acting out a role masking the true intent of his words. He wanted sasuke to know the truth, thats why he kept asking him how much can you see, but sasuke is retarded.

Kakashi, why did I just waste time writing this....

Madara Uchiha(No Hashirama DNA OR Edo) age 30 versus Itachi Uchiha age 30

From what we know Madara is showy he likes flash, bang boom. HE"S DEAD...
here's why, only one person is on par with Itachi's genjutsu effects and thats Naruto's tricks. Turning clones into rubble to finish the last pain, digging tooth and nail to finish Neji in the Chuunin exams. Not to mention how HAM (HARD AZZA M_____R) he's going now. I just dont see any person running up on Itachi getting very far. Regular Madara against his age Itachi is getting flatlined. You dont think so tell me why? EMS? bullshit, Tie at best for Madara, if he makes it past the first genjutsu with his powerful chakra he wont get past amaterasu instantly after while he stumbles from never being hit by such a powerful genjutsu.

I'm just going to make a list of all Characters that flatline to Itachi's Genjutsu

Minato, Itachi's current age (S difficulty) same age (Like goku asking Krillin to block Kamehameha for him)

Hiruzen (Old, Dead in 5mins) (Young, Owns Itachi and the Whole Ninja world 1on1)

Hashirama (Dead, Tsukuyomi)

Tobirama (Dead, Tsukuyomi)

Sasuke (Real Intent Dead, .01secs)

Naruto (Dead, naruto couldn't fight one on one and not make a mistake and thats all it takes with Itachi.)Genjutsu won't work, but Itachi's shuriken will. Plus we dont know if he could control the fox. He had no intention.

Killer Bee (Itachi's toughest fight, like I said with Intent I think he could control the beast) You say how can they control it inside its Jinchuuriki? I say, ask Sasuke. He already did it.

And I'm done.

Lol, you listed Sasuke as someone he could beat using only Tsukuyomi, you do know he broke out of that with a 3-Tomoe, right? Hashirama and Tobirama fought, and defeated, Uchiha's on a regular basis. You seriously think he'll be able to fool them with a genjutsu?

And Madara....what the ****?

 

[genii96]

Nagato would rip inside out easily.kisame also knew itachi's power,even abt the ms and he still agreed that itachi would loose to jiraiya,kisame even said that jiraiya was on a different level than himself.
Sm jiraiya>ms itachiU_U

 

[Kira was Righteous]

just not true genjutsu beats Nagato for sure. He shows he has nothing for it. Not only does Itachi deliver his deathblow but Nagato shows no ability to break genjutsu minus letting that body die and rez it but only problem is he cant do that alone. Nagato owned 2mins max.

A couple of points id like to go into that proves that Uchiha Genjutsu can be broken ill start with the the so called Ultimate Genjutsu Koto Amatsukami.This technique allows the user to manipulate the victim without them knowing creating false experiences.This is a very very dangerous technique and if it hits home it is basically a one shot..yeahhh well almost.This technique was used on Mifune to manipulate him with his eye covered which was detected by Ao who claimed to know this technique through surviving a fight with Shisui Uchiha

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Ao even states he saw through the illusion

There is one important point about Mifune that i would like to make that makes Koto Amatsukami not a one shot yeahhh but rather a very dangerous technique that can be countered by very high level ninja.If KA is as dangerous as many uchiha fanboys make it out to be then why was Mifune snapped out of it by telling him he was in genjutsu? I believe any great Sensory type Ninja would be able to detect this as Ao was able to detect it through the colour of chakra and realise they are under its affects...My point being is that it can be broken through Normal means if you know you are under genjutsu Mifune proved this.
Mifune under the influence of genjutsu

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Mifune told he is being manipulated by KA

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Mifune acting normally and giving out orders not under KA

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Tsukuyomi aka the uchiha fanboys dream was stated by uchiha Itachi himself to be unbreakable while this is a biast manga quote talking about himself.There are some grounds for believing it as its only been used on Sasuke after Kakashi and he broke it the 3rd Time.The question is how does one break Tsukuyomi?The key is in the wording if we are to take this biast quote as evidence you must not selectively quote parts and add your own twist.

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My illusion jutsu Tsukuyomi cannot be beaten is not referring to his own version but the jutsu Tsukuyomi.The wording is clear and this is not true as others such as Bee have broken Tsukuyomi and even danzo stated that it was weaker compared to Itachis but this proves that it can be broken(The official handbook stated that Sasuke has to have had Tsukuyomi as well).Another thing to point out is that Itachi had never fought a tailed beast user or a Rinngean user but regardless it was broken so the technique as a whole can be broken... however that doesn't mean they can break it quick enough to respond to a attack.

In conclusion for those who are skimming through

KA broken by Mifune by being told he was in genjutsu and seen through by Ao with Byakagun who saw the genjutsu

Tsukuyomi broken by Bee,Itachi through a bias stated his illusionary technique justu Tsukuyomi couldn't be broken but proven wrong

Thoughts? if you agree don't forget to link this for Uchiha fanboys xd

Nagato is a Chakra sensor,has summons to see for him,Genutsu traps,Can see Chakra changes and has powerful Uzumaki chakra

One of these are enough to counter Genjutsu even the confirmed strongest Uchiha Genjutu KA was seen through by looking at the colour of the chakra

 

[UchihaElder]

Is this a joke? Some of the people you have Itachi down for beating are just...

No joke, any bout Itachi is serious in he's coming out on top. If not by brute strength by pure genius. You guys dont understand his character. Obito said it himself. He killed his Mother, his Father, he killed/help kill his best friend/ his entire family of elite Uchiha. FANBOYSASUKE, but your still alive, dont you get it. HE"S FRICKING OP. His only weakness is he doesnt desire to kill. If he did. Narutoverse would be saying. Madara who? That man so old his eye's wrinkled, gtfo.

 

[Simple Math]

at that point itachi > jiraiya

 

[Midday]

Is this thread a joke or Itachi fanfiction. Most of your list is fail.