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Ye, I know that, but I'm sure he doesn't fully understand plot-no-jutsu. Otherwise he wouldn't try acting smart.

Then how is any other form of plot no jutsu different than what I'm doing?
 

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killerbee doesnt use 8 tails at the the start naruto has 3 summondings plus lots clones with massive rasengan naruto got this and whats stops bee from getting hit with the frog song?

 

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killerbee doesnt use 8 tails at the the start naruto has 3 summondings plus lots clones with massive rasengan naruto got this and whats stops bee from getting hit with the frog song?


naruto dosent start with all simmonings and he has never summoned three toads at once,he has only summoned one,even in km,besides,what will they do?,h can still tear them easily in v2,and like i said,naruto cant make lots of clones in sm at the same time,he never has outside his mind,besides killer b in base reacted to v2 raikage,hachibi mode v2 will easily outmaneouvre sm naruto. Frog song takes quite a while to prep,and you know that bee can shoot out a tbb/chakra blast in v2 right?,also he is a perfect jin,how is genjutsu gonna work?. Do you know how long it takes to summon those two toads?,and does naruto even know how?,he dropped the idea of summoning them in the pain arc,and he hasnt trained there since.

Killer bee almost always uses his full bijuu mode in his fights,or summons parts of it,he was able to react to minato as well.

A perfect sage cant beat a perfect jinchuuri.
 

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Naruto because FRS and he can expand it sound genjutsu solo's and he has the 6tails which is fast and shoots 100 mini tbbs just to much 4 kb
 

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Naruto because FRS and he can expand it sound genjutsu solo's and he has the 6tails which is fast and shoots 100 mini tbbs just to much 4 kb

sm naruto can do tbb?,and killer b is a perfect jin,genjutsu is useless
 

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Oh really? Last I checked "SM vs a bijuu" resulted in the bijuu's ass getting kicked. Oh, did I mention it was Kurama who just happens to crap on Gyuki in terms of bijuu power?

Seriously, wtf is this logic lol. Baffles me every time. "Well, Naruto kicked Kurama's ass and bashed him with 3 FRS and cho odama rasengan barrage continuously and smashed him aroudn to death, but nah, he loses to an inferior beast whos far weaker than Kurama no difficulty"

One, Kurama is not that much better than Gyuki, it's been said all the tailed beasts are the same, and he can't do the whirlwind. Two, in the case we saw Bee couldn't use any significant power within Naruto's subconscious, read again.

Yeah, um, Naruto barely even damaged Kurama after all that. Kurama's fur was fuzzed, that's the result of that big long list of attacks you wrote. And then even after Naruto made good use of opportunity and stole his chakra-- which he would not be able to do with Bee in eight tails mode for the cheap win-- Kurama still had the strength left to make a TBB the size of several city blocks. And mind you, Joki, which you apparently failed to notice, this is all with Kushina's chains that are perfect binding for Kurama. There's no way Naruto would've bound him otherwise. There's no way Naruto would've won otherwise.

I'd like to see proof other than "lololol Naruto barraged him that's why sm wins against a bijuu." Because otherwise there's no way SM, admittedly with a variety of useful techniques, but frankly with no sheer force, like say, BM, would stand a chance against a tailed beast, a being of such immense power.
 

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Bijuu Mode > Sage Mode. Otherwise, Naruto wouldn't have been spending this entire time trying to learn how to get into kyuubi mode and getting that huge power boost with bijuu mode.
 

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One, Kurama is not that much better than Gyuki, it's been said all the tailed beasts are the same, and he can't do the whirlwind. Two, in the case we saw Bee couldn't use any significant power within Naruto's subconscious, read again.

Yeah, um, Naruto barely even damaged Kurama after all that. Kurama's fur was fuzzed, that's the result of that big long list of attacks you wrote. And then even after Naruto made good use of opportunity and stole his chakra-- which he would not be able to do with Bee in eight tails mode for the cheap win-- Kurama still had the strength left to make a TBB the size of several city blocks. And mind you, Joki, which you apparently failed to notice, this is all with Kushina's chains that are perfect binding for Kurama. There's no way Naruto would've bound him otherwise. There's no way Naruto would've won otherwise.

I'd like to see proof other than "lololol Naruto barraged him that's why sm wins against a bijuu." Because otherwise there's no way SM, admittedly with a variety of useful techniques, but frankly with no sheer force, like say, BM, would stand a chance against a tailed beast, a being of such immense power.

Yeah I already posted the other scans of where Kurama was like "GRAHHRAHAHHGHAGHHHYHAUGHAUGHUAHGAUHGUHGH" and "SUCH POWER...!" like 4 times as Naruto barraged him with multiple FRS and hundreds of cho odama rasengan. I'd consult those before saying things that are just outright wrong without even checking the facts.

Why do people even do this, "lol I'm not sure that Kurama actuall wasn't damaged, maybe I should go check to make sure...nahhhh I'm obviously right I don't even need to look at the scans Joki posted where he claims it shows Kurama being hurt." Really?

All the bijuu are the same? When was that said? Lol, that's why Naruto and kurama were beating the shit out of all the other bijuu while gyuki sat back in awe.
 

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Yeah I already posted the other scans of where Kurama was like "GRAHHRAHAHHGHAGHHHYHAUGHAUGHUAHGAUHGUHGH" and "SUCH POWER...!" like 4 times as Naruto barraged him with multiple FRS and hundreds of cho odama rasengan. I'd consult those before saying things that are just outright wrong without even checking the facts.

Why do people even do this, "lol I'm not sure that Kurama actuall wasn't damaged, maybe I should go check to make sure...nahhhh I'm obviously right I don't even need to look at the scans Joki posted where he claims it shows Kurama being hurt." Really?

All the bijuu are the same? When was that said? Lol, that's why Naruto and kurama were beating the shit out of all the other bijuu while gyuki sat back in awe.

I actually laughed at the onomatopoeia. Anyway, I saw what Naruto did. As for 'such power,' Kurama wasn't awed by the strength, but surprised that Naruto possessed such power.

Bro, I've read that. Kurama's stomach fur is fuzzy, that's it. There are no signs of any damage. Have you read carefully or are you merely construing it the way you remember every time you think about it?

It was said that all the bijuu possessed pretty much the same amount of power; Gyuki stated that and said that was why Shukaku hated Kurama, because they were equal but Kurama looked down on him. If you can't remember an important fact like that don't expect me to go looking around for it on my own time. That last part has no basis in fact whatsoever, I'm not really sure why you included that sentence. Yes Naruto and Kurama are an awesome pair. Were they beating the sht out of the other bijuu? No. Was Gyuki sitting 'back in awe?' No; they were helping the whole battle. And btw the guy has no legs, how is he supposed to do anything but sit?
 

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sm naruto since he now has infinite sage mode
plus remember blood prison when naruto did all the work....not bee
 

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I actually laughed at the onomatopoeia. Anyway, I saw what Naruto did. As for 'such power,' Kurama wasn't awed by the strength, but surprised that Naruto possessed such power.

Bro, I've read that. Kurama's stomach fur is fuzzy, that's it. There are no signs of any damage. Have you read carefully or are you merely construing it the way you remember every time you think about it?

It was said that all the bijuu possessed pretty much the same amount of power; Gyuki stated that and said that was why Shukaku hated Kurama, because they were equal but Kurama looked down on him. If you can't remember an important fact like that don't expect me to go looking around for it on my own time. That last part has no basis in fact whatsoever, I'm not really sure why you included that sentence. Yes Naruto and Kurama are an awesome pair. Were they beating the sht out of the other bijuu? No. Was Gyuki sitting 'back in awe?' No; they were helping the whole battle. And btw the guy has no legs, how is he supposed to do anything but sit?

Yeah...last I checked someone doesn't just scream because of how powerful an attack is if it doesn't do anything to them.

Also not my fault Kurama is the strongest bijuu and also a tank, when Hachibi was screaming in pain from 1 amaterasu and punched a flame barrier and said how bad it hurt. And his tentacles can be cut by pretty much anything as evidenced from basically everything that's come in contact to it ever, unles chidori eisou and giant shurikens are stronger than FRSes now.

Yeah, actually, Kurama was shitting on all of the other bijuu which you obviously forgot and acted like it didn't happen. Bee did pretty much nothing at all except got 1 hit in while Kurama was soloing effortlessly.

So..how exactly do you expect Bee to tank multiple FRS and rasengan barrages when SM Naruto was kicking the 9 tails ass exactly?
 

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Yeah...last I checked someone doesn't just scream because of how powerful an attack is if it doesn't do anything to them.

Also not my fault Kurama is the strongest bijuu and also a tank, when Hachibi was screaming in pain from 1 amaterasu and punched a flame barrier and said how bad it hurt. And his tentacles can be cut by pretty much anything as evidenced from basically everything that's come in contact to it ever, unles chidori eisou and giant shurikens are stronger than FRSes now.

Yeah, actually, Kurama was shitting on all of the other bijuu which you obviously forgot and acted like it didn't happen. Bee did pretty much nothing at all except got 1 hit in while Kurama was soloing effortlessly.

So..how exactly do you expect Bee to tank multiple FRS and rasengan barrages when SM Naruto was kicking the 9 tails ass exactly?

This is manga; people scream about everything. Anyway, like I said, it wasn't because the attack was powerful, it was because Naruto was.

It's never been proven that Kurama is the strongest, if anything, the opposite-- on the same level-- because of Gyuki's dialogue. Yeah, um, I'm pretty sure amaterasu hurts like a bitch, and anyway you just said Kurama was screaming in pain so I don't know why you brought up Gyuki screaming; it makes them seem the same after all. The fact that it was Tobi who hurt Gyuki tells us nothing; Tobi's strong. And the fact that the tentacles come off was a good thing last time I checked. Bee escaped in one, and a tentacle can mimic an entire person. It's only a troll who doesn't see value in that.

Um, okay... so obviously you're grossly skewing the bijuu battle in which Kurama and Gyuki were fighting together and just managing to handle the other tailed beasts. And if you were reading you would know that they wouldn't have survived that battle without eight tails. In any case, you are just proving the immense power of the bijuu with this, enough that can smash SM Naruto.

Bee tanks those easily in biju mode, like Kurama did. Might I remind you once again Naruto would've gotten his ass kicked without his mother to hold the kyuubi down, and in any case he only managed to steal chakra, which he would not be able to do to Gyuki. He is crushed here.
 

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This is manga; people scream about everything. Anyway, like I said, it wasn't because the attack was powerful, it was because Naruto was.

It's never been proven that Kurama is the strongest, if anything, the opposite-- on the same level-- because of Gyuki's dialogue. Yeah, um, I'm pretty sure amaterasu hurts like a bitch, and anyway you just said Kurama was screaming in pain so I don't know why you brought up Gyuki screaming; it makes them seem the same after all.
Hmm, I dunno I'd rather be burned with Amaterasu that couldn't even burn through Karin's clothes and Samurai armor than be torn apart on a cellular level that after being hit by it yoou don't even exist because you're vaporized.
The fact that it was Tobi who hurt Gyuki tells us nothing; Tobi's strong.
Giant shuriken are stronger than FRS? Mizuki>Hachibi confirmed
And the fact that the tentacles come off was a good thing last time I checked. Bee escaped in one, and a tentacle can mimic an entire person. It's only a troll who doesn't see value in that.
That won't help him in a battle wtih FRSes flying everywhere.
Um, okay... so obviously you're grossly skewing the bijuu battle in which Kurama and Gyuki were fighting together and just managing to handle the other tailed beasts. And if you were reading you would know that they wouldn't have survived that battle without eight tails. In any case, you are just proving the immense power of the bijuu with this, enough that can smash SM Naruto.
Really now? I'd love for you to post one damn scan that proves otherwise. Gyuki literally got 1 hit in on the bijuu. Kurama was beating the shit out of all of them. Go ahead, post 1 scan how they "wouldnt survive" because last I checked, not only do Kurama's bijuu damas casually match the power of all 5 of the other ones at once, but in a taijutsu battle it's no different. I would post the scans that utterly destroy that claim, but go ahead I'd like to give you a shot at this, should be entertaining.
Bee tanks those easily in biju mode, like Kurama did. Might I remind you once again Naruto would've gotten his ass kicked without his mother to hold the kyuubi down, and in any case he only managed to steal chakra, which he would not be able to do to Gyuki. He is crushed here.
Can you please support this in any possible way? How exactly does hachibi tank multiple FRS that tear your ass apart on a cellular level? None of that "lawl hes 8 tails" because like I said, his tentacles are cut effortlessly by anything these days, even Raikages hellstab had trouble getting through a fodder wall for a few minutes. Support him surviving FRSes and cho odama rasengan barrages, thx bby.
 

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Hmm, I dunno I'd rather be burned with Amaterasu that couldn't even burn through Karin's clothes and Samurai armor than be torn apart on a cellular level that after being hit by it yoou don't even exist because you're vaporized.

Giant shuriken are stronger than FRS? Mizuki>Hachibi confirmed

That won't help him in a battle wtih FRSes flying everywhere.

Really now? I'd love for you to post one damn scan that proves otherwise. Gyuki literally got 1 hit in on the bijuu. Kurama was beating the shit out of all of them. Go ahead, post 1 scan how they "wouldnt survive" because last I checked, not only do Kurama's bijuu damas casually match the power of all 5 of the other ones at once, but in a taijutsu battle it's no different. I would post the scans that utterly destroy that claim, but go ahead I'd like to give you a shot at this, should be entertaining.

Can you please support this in any possible way? How exactly does hachibi tank multiple FRS that tear your ass apart on a cellular level? None of that "lawl hes 8 tails" because like I said, his tentacles are cut effortlessly by anything these days, even Raikages hellstab had trouble getting through a fodder wall for a few minutes. Support him surviving FRSes and cho odama rasengan barrages, thx bby.

Amaterasu can't be put out but it burns slowly until you're all gone. FRS kills you in an instant. I'd rather be killed by FRS. Btw Kurama who is = to Gyuki, FRS did nothing to; his fur was fuzzy. So I'm not sure how plausible your argument sounds. In any case, I was just pointing out that it makes sense that Gyuki was screaming because slow-burning amaterasu hurts. Just like how Kurama screamed with FRS, which did little. They are pretty much =.

I have no idea what you're talking about; I was just saying the fact that Tobi hurt eight tails means nothing. Tobi could hurt Kurama easily as well. Perhaps your love of Mizuki side-tracked you.

Just explaining that his tentacles coming off is useful in many circumstances. Never said it would be in this case... though now that you mention it I see how Gyuki could trick Naruto with a fake Bee that's actually a tentacle, and then kill him with a TBB.

Like I told you before, if you're not willing to go back and actually read, or you're not smart enough to understand what was going on, I'm not going to waste my time looking up a bunch of scans for you. Gyuki and Kurama were working together in that battle, and Naruto was using BM for the first time ever so he was getting more screen time.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with "lawl hes 8 tails." It's been said many, many times about the tanking power of the bijuu. It's also been said by a tailed beast that all the tailed beasts were equal. So, if Kurama who is = to Gyuki can tank all those rasengans and FRSes with not a scratch, then Eight tails survives them easily if not gets by without a single injury. And btw I already went over why Gyuki's tentacles separate easily, it's an extra ability along with ink, whirlwind, TBB; it's been only a help in the manga, not a bad thing. He escapes situations in the tentacles, fakes out opponents, etc. Naruto would be easily tricked by a Bee tentacle.

Now you tell me how SM Naruto would first survive a whirlwind, then perhaps a barrage of punches, then a bijuu bomb. It should be interesting for you to explain how SM Naruto survives that in the face.
 

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Amaterasu can't be put out but it burns slowly until you're all gone. FRS kills you in an instant. I'd rather be killed by FRS. Btw Kurama who is = to Gyuki, FRS did nothing to; his fur was fuzzy. So I'm not sure how plausible your argument sounds. In any case, I was just pointing out that it makes sense that Gyuki was screaming because slow-burning amaterasu hurts. Just like how Kurama screamed with FRS, which did little. They are pretty much =.

I have no idea what you're talking about; I was just saying the fact that Tobi hurt eight tails means nothing. Tobi could hurt Kurama easily as well. Perhaps your love of Mizuki side-tracked you.

Just explaining that his tentacles coming off is useful in many circumstances. Never said it would be in this case... though now that you mention it I see how Gyuki could trick Naruto with a fake Bee that's actually a tentacle, and then kill him with a TBB.

Like I told you before, if you're not willing to go back and actually read, or you're not smart enough to understand what was going on, I'm not going to waste my time looking up a bunch of scans for you. Gyuki and Kurama were working together in that battle, and Naruto was using BM for the first time ever so he was getting more screen time.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with "lawl hes 8 tails." It's been said many, many times about the tanking power of the bijuu. It's also been said by a tailed beast that all the tailed beasts were equal. So, if Kurama who is = to Gyuki can tank all those rasengans and FRSes with not a scratch, then Eight tails survives them easily if not gets by without a single injury. And btw I already went over why Gyuki's tentacles separate easily, it's an extra ability along with ink, whirlwind, TBB; it's been only a help in the manga, not a bad thing. He escapes situations in the tentacles, fakes out opponents, etc. Naruto would be easily tricked by a Bee tentacle.

Now you tell me how SM Naruto would first survive a whirlwind, then perhaps a barrage of punches, then a bijuu bomb. It should be interesting for you to explain how SM Naruto survives that in the face.
Sorry man, considering Kurama casually craps on the other 5 bijuu simultaneously, "lol hes 8 tails i cant read the manga durp" just doesn't work. And yeah, I have a raging hard on for chapter 1 Mizuki. Best character evar. Oh yeah, and Naruto totally doesn't have sensing or anything.

Did I make the claims? Support the strength of the things you think can scratch SM Naruto, I posted panels of FRS, by saying "Durp hes 8 tails, even though SM Naruto shat on Kurama and Kurama beat the shit out of all 5 bijuu at the same time, and 9>>>8 as said repeatedly" you confirmed you have absolutely no proof to support Bee being able to do shit, so thanks for the concession I'll take my win now.
 

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i wonder how naruto survives that
 

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so u guys are saying that killer B can beat 6POP, NOPE. also, sm naruto can beat killer b high diff, also frog tai jutsu is better than b's ken jutsu, one punch, and one of killer b's swords are broken. also, this is sage chakra we are talking about, he can sense killer bee where ever he is. and one rasenshuriken and killer bee is done for, and rasengan barrage....um ya naruto wins high diff
 

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Hmm, he did defeat pain in this mode. Still wondering how killer b would fair.... for now I'm gonna say SM Naruto tho.
 

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so u guys are saying that killer B can beat 6POP, NOPE. also, sm naruto can beat killer b high diff, also frog tai jutsu is better than b's ken jutsu, one punch, and one of killer b's swords are broken. also, this is sage chakra we are talking about, he can sense killer bee where ever he is. and one rasenshuriken and killer bee is done for, and rasengan barrage....um ya naruto wins high diff

did naruto beat 6POP alone,he was solo'd by a weakened deva,and then kyubi weakened deva allowing naruto to hit him,pain would easily have killed naruto if he wanted.

So what if it's sage chakra?,killer b is the 8tails perfect jin,he can easily dodge a rasenshuriken,rasengan barrage?how abt a v2 tbb?.

V2 chakra shroud will dominate sage mode naruto.
 
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