Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

[Knights Saotome]

Re: Tobi can't possible be Obito

Mainly because that tobi did not know of FTG...clearly it had to be someone different.

he did know, or did you forget when he kidnapped naruto and made a remark about being as fast as ever or something similar, def talking like he knew about it already, and i think he didnt know about flying rajin level two because it was created after he left the leaf.

 

[Mayhemfest08]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

I do not know if i am missing something, but can someone please explain to me why "Tobi" has two Sharringon eyes in the chapter 510 "a shocking forbidden technique" pg. 8. If he is Obito then he shouldn't have that eye right??

 

[theresurrection]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

nah, but im looking at 590, for Madara evidence

chapter 482, it was danzo he was with.

 

[Knights Saotome]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

haha idk if this +rep thing actually does anything and is like reddit karma, or is just something you say. so just in case it is like karma I'm just gonna say it so i don't look like a **** not returning the favor, so +rep to you and eternalstudent too.

this guy

 

[theresurrection]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

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I dont know yall, this might be the real deal Madara..He was able to look at the secret stone as well....impossible for Obito to have done that....

but what about impure world resurrection Madara? Before the last chapter I was convinced it was a Zetsu clone of Madara that survived past the real Madara's death. It seemed far-fetched but the most reasonable of proposed theories. Right now, I have no idea what's goin on

 

[Koha]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

@ this point in the manga where it hasn't been 100% confirmed its obito, you might as well say Yahiko was Pain and laid waste to konoha...
all the flashbacks in 599 just proved that obito was will of fire 101

i swear Tobi is Tobirama(followed will of hatred),he created edo tensai (tested kabuto when asked about how to stop edo tensai), hated his brother Hashirama (when Tobi talked to naruto during summit arc) a few chapters ago Tobi stated "he found" that sharingan meaning he found obitos body, obito being a uchiha, Tobirama being a Senju explains how he got both dnas (During Konans fight with him) and its all gonna be explained in the next 5 chapters

Right now tobiramas sitting off somewhere using the paths of pain tech on obitos body controlling him, thats why Obito body has 1 sharingan and 1 rinnegan......+ obito body is related to zetsu somehow and we all know zetsu can change how he looks like charka bs(turning into neji)

and **** it i just wanna see Naruto and Sasuke fight again don't know why so many ppl care about obito being tobi, if you've been reading naruto to see who tobi is and gonna quit because its not the person you wanted him to be your a ****ing retard, if Naruto and Sasuke don't fight at the end thats something to drop it for...

AND YEA GO KISHIMOTO GO!!!!

Tobirama was sealed in the Reaper Death Seal. He's not residing in the Pure World, so he can't be summoned or any of that with Impure World Resurrection.

 

[theresurrection]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

this guy

haha +rep for you, too. I'm learning bro.

 

[theresurrection]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

I do not know if i am missing something, but can someone please explain to me why "Tobi" has two Sharringon eyes in the chapter 510 "a shocking forbidden technique" pg. 8. If he is Obito then he shouldn't have that eye right??

Chap 582, Tobi has aaaaaaaalllllllll the sharingans he'll ever need. He has a "sharingan room."

 

[EternalStudent]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

chapter 482, it was danzo he was with.

Gotcha thanks

 

[theresurrection]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Gotcha thanks

No prob, just told another guy the same thing, he was askin the same questions you were.

 

[EternalStudent]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

but what about impure world resurrection Madara? Before the last chapter I was convinced it was a Zetsu clone of Madara that survived past the real Madara's death. It seemed far-fetched but the most reasonable of proposed theories. Right now, I have no idea what's goin on

Im saying, that could've been a summoned Madara by Oroch. Simply to read the Uchiha Tablet...possible

 

[theresurrection]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Im saying, that could've been a summoned Madara by Oroch. Simply to read the Uchiha Tablet...possible

but you can't summon Madara via Impure World Resurrection if he's still alive i.e. Tobi, so I'd imagine it's one or the other, and I'm pretty sure the 5 kage are fighting him right now. But anyway i gotta do hw and go to sleep man.

 

[AmaniPaz]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

It wasn't fake. Stop defending Obito when you are so ignorant. When you can't explain something you rant about being fake or about where we get the arguments. About the timeline, the kyuubi attack was 16 years ago obviously(when Naruto was born). At the moment, Kakashi is 30 years old(on naruto wikia), meaning Kakashi was 14 years old(30-16) when kyuubi attacked. Meaning, Obito was 14 years old, making it 1 year after he died.

Someone with a brain

 

[EternalStudent]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

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"The True Winner is he who focuses on the future..."
That says alot...Meaning this "Obito", knows whatever was planned after the madara fight with Hashi. Since Madara had battled a few times before...Im sure he wouldnt go into the battle again, unless his aim was different, not to "kill" this time around...

 

[EternalStudent]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

but you can't summon Madara via Impure World Resurrection if he's still alive i.e. Tobi, so I'd imagine it's one or the other, and I'm pretty sure the 5 kage are fighting him right now. But anyway i gotta do hw and go to sleep man.

Cool, take it easy

And I was saying, Oroch summoned him for the espionage with the Mist, as well as meeting Itachi and being able to read the tablet (which he needed to read since he wanted a high level Uchiha vessel)

 

[aynedizzy]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Tobirama died when Sarutobi was chosen......Obito had to have been a child at that time...........also he was reaper death sealed during the chunin exams....you need to explain some things sir

Im not really :shrug: sure i've just always thought that since chapter 462, why else would of obito hated the 1st Hokage, i just can't wait for the next few chapter where everything gets Confirmed or Denied...
or Zetsu could be related to Tobirama somehow xd and im not a "Sir"

 

[The voice of reason]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

What if Obito wasn't the guy that attacked with the Kyuubi?
What if everything Obito know is because Madara was the original Man with the mask, and Obito was learning under him such as Naruto was with Jiraiya and just as Sasuke was with Orochimaru? Madara help start the akatsuki and Obito was joined to learn under Madara sense Kakashi was much better of a ninja than he was, which was shown in the latest chapter, but training under Madara clouded his mind just as Sasuke had done to him by Orochimaru. Once Madara died Obito's mind had been clouded so much or he had so for his much respect his master, he followed out his plan, just like Sasuke has been basically doing what Orochimaru has been wanting to do all along, destroy the leaf village, even though Sasuke has a different reason why he is still basically doing what Orochimaru wanted to do as well.
So basically I am saying originally the masked man that killed the who uchia with Itatchi and the whole Kyuubi incodent and the one to possible help start the akatsuki was Madara and Obito started tranning under him and when Madara died Obito took his spot just like Naruto is kinda doing with Jiraya after his death, and kinda but not really what Sasuke is doing after Orochimaru's death.

Just saying a possible way it could all be explained if Tobi really is Obito.

 

[B00m]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

You sound like you know everything,and you say that the timeline and other things are incorrect since theres no proof and just assumption, BUT YOUR MAKING ASSUMPTIONS TOO,WHICH ARENT EVEN AS LOGICAL AS OURS.Sorry bro if you find this offensive,but deal with it.U_U

Thank you.

The OP is very ignorant and has provided no explanations, just his own theorys/plotholes to cover up the many he mentioned above. Almost no facts relating to the actual manga. "All plotholes explained...with my own theories"

I'm not counting out Obito, but he died saving his friends life, so I don't see why he wants to kill him now. If he is starting all this for a girls death he is an idiot like almost all uchiha, blowing things out of proportion and crying about how bad there life is. The only positive I see him being Obito is his is like a combination of Sasuke and Naruto who are obviously the main 2 of the story. He's played the good guy and bad guy, I like that. I don't think anyone can get that strong that quick though, and I just can't get over that. Plus, the way he pulls some Kakarot shit is ridiculous, gets crushed by rock, becomes 10 times stronger.

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

1. His age c'mon it's simple math, nuff said!

2. When kurama is extracted he recognizes "Tobis" chakra, now how exactly could he do that if kurama was transferred from jinchuriki to jinchuriki dating all the way back to the time of mito hashiramas wife?

3. If Madara awakened the Rennigan shortly before his death, and nagato would be around 40 or so than how could Tobi/Obito have given him Madaras eyes? And if that's the case how would Obito have even met Madara seeing as he would have been dead at least 10 years or so before Obito was even born...

Plot holes galore!!!!

....I'm not even getting on the whole him being Izuna thing!!!

 

[EternalStudent]

Re: Obito : All plotholes explained

Im gone till next week....which will be a sasuke chapter lol