You have no right to call Kishi a troll for Obito being Tobi.

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

kishi is still a troll, keep this thread incase and put it back sayng your sorry when he trolls us all lol, trust me it isnt obito he wouldent leave a big plot whole, of madara knowning obito

He wrote the series he knows what he's doing just wait until he explains everything

 

[TheRealAkatsukiLeader]

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Oh my god, + REP!! Thank you, I've believed Tobi to be Obito from the start! Got called retarded too for believing.. Lol, but eh oh well. I would rep you over 9,000 times!!!!! If I could. Obito is a perfect choice for Tobi, I never thought anyone else in these Tobi theories would strike well because they were basically fodder.. Thank you for clearing this up, maybe people will stop complaining on how their theories were wrong.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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Oh my god, + REP!! Thank you, I've believed Tobi to be Obito from the start! Got called retarded too for believing.. Lol, but eh oh well. I would rep you over 9,000 times!!!!! If I could. Obito is a perfect choice for Tobi, I never thought anyone else in these Tobi theories would strike well because they were basically fodder.. Thank you for clearing this up, maybe people will stop complaining on how their theories were wrong.

I've changed a lot of peoples views with this thread and boy did it take a lot of work. Thanks man, I had to get these issues addressed, but of course people will still complain but they will get over it because Naruto is a great series

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

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Yh same here, I won't to find out to.

I never thought it was Izuna for a number of reasons, I could see Kishi was building up on a variety of villains. Oro from hiruzen's time sasuke from naruto's madara's from hashi's and make them have different reasons for being villains.

Izuna and madara are basically the same type of villain infact izuna would even be weaker then madara, so I couldn't understand why kishi would have to of the same villains with the same reasons for their hatred.

Also a more logical reason was Izuna didn't look anything like the tobi we have seen so far, have a look at a troll thread I made a while ago.

What I am saying is true but tbh in a manga things like them not looking anything alike does not matter so much.

Have a look at the troll thread below:

Spoiler

We know tobi is not madara,itachi,shisui and itachi's dad. But if tobi is a character we know that means we are looking at him right now.

Funny enough all the candidates of tobi make a T in this picture.

But also izuna and sasuke have the same hair colour which is black with tint blue.

Obito and kagami are the only characters which pure black hair.. just saying..

The troll thread is sillier reasons but all together I never thought tobi was izuna

Well your right about Izuna being weak compare to Madara, but he gave Madara his eyes in order to obtain EMS. We don't even know how strong he was back in the old days. He seemed on par to Madara in terms of feats. We can never argue about that part-- if Itachi didn't give Sasuke his EMS. He would of never been this strong. Same scenario only the younger brother gave his eyes to Madara.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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Well your right about Izuna being weak compare to Madara, but he gave Madara his eyes in order to obtain EMS. We don't even know how strong he was back in the old days. He seemed on par to Madara in terms of feats. We can never argue about that part-- if Itachi didn't give Sasuke his EMS. He would of never been this strong. Same scenario only the younger brother gave his eyes to Madara.

Yh true, but we have madara so to me we don't need Izuna. I simply just don't see what use Izuna would be for the story or provide anything Madara can't. It wouldn't be that bad I guess but Obito makes it more interesting story wise. We didn't really have any villains from Minato's time now we have Obito which is a surprise one.

It depends on what kishi does with this

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

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Yh true, but we have madara so to me we don't need Izuna. I simply just don't see what use Izuna would be for the story or provide anything Madara can't. It wouldn't be that bad I guess but Obito makes it more interesting story wise. We didn't really have any villains from Minato's time now we have Obito which is a surprise one.

It depends on what kishi does with this

Don't get me wrong. I actually like his ideals for a villain, but he was just too good of a guy to believe. He was exactly the double copy of Naruto. The only thing is that Naruto Uchiha saved Sasuke Hatake. But you didn't have to jump in-- it wouldn't matter that other squad that was following Kakashi would have killed Obito.

I don't like the idea of Izuna being Tobi, but the only reason i find justifiable is because he knows Madara Uchiha. You would think that it was his younger brother behind the evil plan. Kagami would of been a better choice to be honest.

I think that Kakashi cut Obito's tongue. He didn't even say, yes i'm Obito-- too many flashbacks. He should of made 20 pages like the episode where Sasuke and Orochimaru met again.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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Don't get me wrong. I actually like his ideals for a villain, but he was just too good of a guy to believe. He was exactly the double copy of Naruto. The only thing is that Naruto Uchiha saved Sasuke Hatake. But you didn't have to jump in-- it wouldn't matter that other squad that was following Kakashi would have killed Obito.

I don't like the idea of Izuna being Tobi, but the only reason i find justifiable is because he knows Madara Uchiha. You would think that it was his younger brother behind the evil plan. Kagami would of been a better choice to be honest.

I think that Kakashi cut Obito's tongue. He didn't even say, yes i'm Obito-- too many flashbacks. He should of made 20 pages like the episode where Sasuke and Orochimaru met again.

Yes but those 15 or so pages about obito's life which basically showed he was a loser a "nobody" don't you think that's a bit much if it was not him? And why would he say, "yes I am obito" I think the natural thing someone that was hiding that long would do is to do that evil glare when they have become unmasked.

Obviously next chapter we will find out if he is obito or not but he was acting as if he was obito for a while now that is why we first thought it was him. So that's behaviour *check* then we saw his eye so that's eye *check* and now we found out he has his face so that's face *check*. And actually tobi's body has been ****ed since we first saw him ripped of limbs so that's body *check*

So behaviour, body, eye, face. I think we might as well accept it now there's just to much pointed to obito. I just want to know why he is like this

 

[recline187]

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OP, very good posts and great information. Thanks for taking the time to compile them. The only thing I over looked was obito's love for rin!! I agree with everything you posted.

 

[YwtfoO]

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Wow, probably the best thread I've ever read. Truly amazing ... +REP.

I don't know, if it was stated before, but I think Obito saying to Naruto " Once I was exactly like you " (something along these lines ) is another big hint, why Tobi really can be Obito.
I think Kishi wants to show us, how Naruto could have been, if he had no friends ( because, of course, Obito lost everything he lived for, his friends, his love and the goals, he wanted to achieve ), how the pain he suffered turned him into an evil monster with cruel ideals.

I really start to believe, that he is Obito, but I also believe, that there was somebody else who took the name of "Tobi", before Obito took this part and carried on the name of "No One".

I kinda believe it's strange, that we never have seen Tobi using S/T Jutsu, before Obito was born or got crushed and reappeard about 13 years later. For me, this is another hint, that Tobi might actually be just a name and that there is the possibility, that, in the past, there was somebody else who called himself "Tobi". The only logicial conclusion is Madara Uchiha, in my opinion. It was possible, that he was alive back then, and that is the reason he never used S/T Jutsu, because, of course, it's not the special ability he gained - It's Obitos special ability. ( Probably I will make a thread about this )

But, beside Obito/Tobi:
I feel soooo sorry for Kakashi. He suffered so much pain, lost his teammates, thinks he lost his best friend and yet, he stands there with his head up and trying to be there for Naruto and Sakura, after he was not able to save Sasuke.
And now? Yes, he faces his so called dead best-friend and has to fight him to save the world. So sad.

Kishi, why? Why do you f**k up Kakashi so much? Poor Kakashi.

Nevertheless, Kishi is truly amazing. Flipping tables like this is just... wow.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

Wow, probably the best thread I've ever read. Truly amazing ... +REP.

I don't know, if it was stated before, but I think Obito saying to Naruto " Once I was exactly like you " (something along these lines ) is another big hint, why Tobi really can be Obito.
I think Kishi wants to show us, how Naruto could have been, if he had no friends ( because, of course, Obito lost everything he lived for, his friends, his love and the goals, he wanted to achieve ), how the pain he suffered turned him into an evil monster with cruel ideals.

I really start to believe, that he is Obito, but I also believe, that there was somebody else who took the name of "Tobi", before Obito took this part and carried on the name of "No One".

I kinda believe it's strange, that we never have seen Tobi using S/T Jutsu, before Obito was born or got crushed and reappeard about 13 years later. For me, this is another hint, that Tobi might actually be just a name and that there is the possibility, that, in the past, there was somebody else who called himself "Tobi". The only logicial conclusion is Madara Uchiha, in my opinion. It was possible, that he was alive back then, and that is the reason he never used S/T Jutsu, because, of course, it's not the special ability he gained - It's Obitos special ability. ( Probably I will make a thread about this )

But, beside Obito/Tobi:
I feel soooo sorry for Kakashi. He suffered so much pain, lost his teammates, thinks he lost his best friend and yet, he stands there with his head up and trying to be there for Naruto and Sakura, after he was not able to save Sasuke.
And now? Yes, he faces his so called dead best-friend and has to fight him to save the world. So sad.

Kishi, why? Why do you f**k up Kakashi so much? Poor Kakashi.

Nevertheless, Kishi is truly amazing. Flipping tables like this is just... wow.

Hmm well Kishi said Madara and tobi know each other so I guess Madara would have something to do with this. But I believe all the mask men we have seen are tobi.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

He's Kishimotroll. :|

 

[venuboppudi]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

the "who r u" was very good and "oil and water ","entrusting" are also good but you acknowledged the tobi claiming to be madara fighting hashi or let's say rinnegan being his
were all plot holes but i think rinnegan being his was not a lie i believe his body has two parts like combined zestu one Obito (white zestu) and the other madara related part(black zestu) this gives him knowledge about uchiha justus, calling himself as having both senju and uchiha cells saying things about curse of uchiha (if he is only obito he wouldn't think about all that shit)even going as far to saying he will pit sasuke against naruto..

i also liked tobi infinite tsukuyomi lines- to stop heroes from failing achieve peace or something like that u wrote -I read whole thread iut was worth my time see my theory in sig

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

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+rep. Great thread. I read most of it.

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

the "who r u" was very good and "oil and water ","entrusting" are also good but you acknowledged the tobi claiming to be madara fighting hashi or let's say rinnegan being his
were all plot holes but i think rinnegan being his was not a lie i believe his body has two parts like combined zestu one Obito (white zestu) and the other madara related part(black zestu) this gives him knowledge about uchiha justus, calling himself as having both senju and uchiha cells saying things about curse of uchiha (if he is only obito he wouldn't think about all that shit)even going as far to saying he will pit sasuke against naruto..

i also liked tobi infinite tsukuyomi lines- to stop heroes from failing achieve peace or something like that u wrote -I read whole thread iut was worth my time see my theory in sig

+rep I can see that your read this thoroughly to remember the links I had stated and that line about heroes failing to achieve peace.

I will check out your theory now

+rep. Great thread. I read most of it.

Thanks man, thanks for reading

 

[Nigete]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

Read the whole thing. You really went into full detail with this. And those hints, can't believe i missed it. Good job!

 

[yetanotheruser]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

Kishi is a master troller.

 

[From the Dark Spire]

Re: You Have No Right To Call Kishi a Troll

Damn, I wouldn't think even Blaze Release thinks Kishi is a troll. Well, Hidden Shinobi, I've READ ALL OF YOUR THREAD, section by section, congrajulations, plus rep.

 

[zuko25]

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Please tell me why you believe Tobi has yet to kill Kakashi if it has had that much of an impact on him. Obviously Kakashi still being alive and Rin not means Kakashi didn't stay true to his words but why hasn't Tobi killed him, or even made an attempt?

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

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Read the whole thing. You really went into full detail with this. And those hints, can't believe i missed it. Good job!

I missed them all my self as well, it was not untill recently like the last 4 months I looked deeply into this whole obito being tobi thing and the deeper I looked the more hints I found. It shows Kishi had this planned all along.

Damn, I wouldn't think even Blaze Release thinks Kishi is a troll. Well, Hidden Shinobi, I've READ ALL OF YOUR THREAD, section by section, congrajulations, plus rep.

Thanks and thanks even more for reading +rep to you

Please tell me why you believe Tobi has yet to kill Kakashi if it has had that much of an impact on him. Obviously Kakashi still being alive and Rin not means Kakashi didn't stay true to his words but why hasn't Tobi killed him, or even made an attempt?

Ninpo: Plot No Jutsu

No seriously plot, if Tobi had ever shown the slightest anger towards kakashi or a random attempt to kill him the fans would easily work out tobi was obito. Tobi had to play it cool ever time he saw kakashi it is not until recently where he has slightly become a little off edge.

Which is understandable because he is staying with kakashi for a long period of time and kakashi is giving it all talk

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

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Good job I read all of your thread and it absoulelty makes sense!!

Recenetly I made a comment that there's going to be alot of post threads "I told you so" and that everything makes sense of how Obito occured in these events.

Alot of people replied to me that everything never makes sense and that they jumped the conclusion "Kishi is a Troll" and that they refuse the fact that Tobi is Obito.

I too used to think that Obito at first, then everything makes no sense after read many chapters that Tobi claimed to be Madara, and he did this, and that, how, when, and where as such. Everything has soo many plot holes, so I decided to choose most logically and predictable person, so I chose Izuna and sage of six paths. I refuse that obito is not tobi because how can a good kid always trying to tell kakshi that if you abadoned your friends are evern more worse then trash and gave his sharingans to his best friends.

At chapter 599, I made no complain whatsoever , and Im happy about this chapter which I rate 5/5. Alot of fans can't take criticism well so called " Narutards" . They get the thrills out of the reaction from fanfic, this is what haters want, to make the world upside down because they only go through their emotions that guides them to what they want to expect.

Like I said before, I find to believe that Obito is Tobi, in many Logically ways, and how all the plotlines and timelines fit it all together into one.

This to me, is a true way whatever it takes to be a true franchise fan of naruto. Plus Kishi didn't even explain the stories of how tobi should be obito and yet you call off quits just like the one I saw a thread posted recently "I'm done in Naruto" DERP

Anyway I liked your threads alot, it was really entertaining so I subscibe your threads. =)

(I was wondering for a while, what does REP stand for?)